--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "keith47424" <47424@...> wrote:

What is SER please?

Cheers Keith

"Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue" - german language monthly magazine

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baumann" <all@...> wrote:

The latest SBB stock changes, just published in SER,

What is SER please?

Cheers Keith

Whilst i know all me the large city stations all have luggage lockers, i cant seem to see information on the SBB website giving details for other stations, particularly Sargans, can anyone help with a link? Cheers Neil (Bedford, England)

The latest SBB stock changes, just published in SER, list the following locos officially withdrawn, all on 01.01.2009 except as shown

11407
11413 +09.01.2009 (had already gone to the Verkehrshaus before official withdrawal)
11415
11416
11421
11436
11441
11443
11452
11460
11468 +19.01.2009
11476
11494
11500 (610 500)
11503
11505
11510

The line is expected to reopen in a few days.

Markus, Gürbetal

10th April according to the traffic information page on www.rail.ch

Steve

Tom Jessop wrote:

I'm a newbie to this list from Australia, ...
I have not heard why the line is blocked between Campo &
Poschiavo [Winter snow ? ]. I am presently considering a trip to
Switzerland in Sept or Oct this year & this info might sway our
directions for rail travel.

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/SwissRail/message/11571

The line is expected to reopen in a few days.

Markus, G�rbetal

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "Markus" <guerbetaler@...> wrote:

Giezendanner has different white container types. One type is for
cement and another type is not so often seen but anywhere in
Switzerland and it conveys salt.

Markus,

Many thanks for the clarification and the phot link, most helpful.

I did in fact miss a freight from my original posting in error, it is as follows:
Slotted in between the return Jenaz freights observed was Ge6/6 loco 703 with the 1415 LQ-DAV freight No.5047 running to time. The consist included a Za tank (fuel oil, I guess) plus a pair of the Giezendanner tank containers on Sb-v well wagons (now advised, cement traffic) with a `four-silo' version of the Giezendanner tank container on an Sb well wagon at the back (conveying salt).

So both versions appeared in a single freight, small world, eh?

Cheers,

Don

I'm a newbie to this list from Australia, having read this email & having a
interest in the RhB [ a few trips over most of their lines ] I have not
heard why the line is blocked between Campo & Poschiavo [Winter snow ? ].
I am presently considering a trip to Switzerland in Sept or Oct this year
& this info might sway our directions for rail travel.

Regards

Tom in Oz.


[no TOFU on SwissRail! <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOFU> ]

gatehousedc wrote:

... the consist included two white Giezendanner tanks
containers on Sb-v well wagons. I saw similar wagons last year on a
Davos bound freight and was sure I saw a couple of such wagons in a
siding near Klosters Dorf. Does anyone know where they operate
to/from and what the consignment being moved is, please?

Giezendanner has different white container types. One type is for
cement and can be seen anywhere in the eastern part of Switzerland.
http://www.haribu.ch/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=644&pos=1

Another type is not so often seen but anywhere in Switzerland and it
conveys salt.
http://www.haribu.ch/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=644&pos=0

Markus, G�rbetal

A few days spent in Graubunden to enjoy some RhB traffic activity. These are the freight observations:

Wednesday, 18th March

We commenced our RhB visit at Landquart. Loco 631 arrived at LQ at 1040 with Freight No. 5026 from Davos. Apart from a low sided wagon and a van, the consist included two white Giezendanner tanks containers on Sb-v well wagons. I saw similar wagons last year on a Davos bound freight and was sure I saw a couple of such wagons in a siding near Klosters Dorf. Does anyone know where they operate to/from and what the consignment being moved is, please?
Once the above arrival had been cleared from the centre road, 707 arrived at 1100 with Freight 5120 from Samedan. The consist included empty log flats returning from the Bernina and sheeted waste bins.

We headed out to Malans and for the next couple of hours worked locations either side of the village in splendid mild and sunny conditions.

The passenger services ran like clockwork, as you would expect and the following freight activity was seen:
As soon as R1541 from Schiers had departed Ge6/6/ 702 arrived (1243) with Freight 5336 from Zernez in the Engadine. The consist included a Calanda and Co op container and a brace of RhB covered vans. The freight waited for both RE1041 & 1241 to clear the LQ section before departing.

The afternoon LQ-Jenaz tripper No. 5043 was the next to appear, following the R1231 to Schiers. It produced the splendid combination of 4/4' 610 hauling a brace of SBB standard gauge Tds hoppers on metre gauge runner wagons. The return working No. 5042 followed R1549 from Schiers at 1445 and was again a pair of the above hoppers. So, what is being conveyed please and is it to or from Jenaz?

Thursday, 19th March

Another bright morning, so off to Ilanz first thing to pick up the water traffic – I think not!!. We were advised it was a Holy Day so there would be no Ilanz traffic either Thursday or Friday that week, so we were left with the Disentis cement trains for our freight activity. Put that one in the diary, Chaps.

Train 5236 was early into Ilanz but had to wait its path, so did not head east until RE1224 had arrived at 1130. 701 had the usual rake of bogie cement tanks and silos in the consist.

The westbound 5243 cement working later followed RE1232 and was through Castrisch at 1349, 702 had a good load on with two tanktainers at the front, followed by silos and then bogie tanks.

We headed round on to the Albula line to drop off at Rhazuns. Once the 1531 R1550 departure had cleared, 703 trundled in with Train 5151 the LQ-PORE (Pontresina) job. It had at this stage, a container for Poschiavo and two loads of logs for Campocologno, although with the line still blocked, they would be off loaded at Poschiavo for movement on by road. The freight sat here to allow both RE1148 (704 on this) and the R1552 from Thusis to clear before heading south.

It was not long before the barriers were down again and 607 with Train 5152 Samedan-Landquart came through. An empty cement silo Uc, a brace of white waste bins/containers and 2 wagons of loaded logs were behind the loco. When checked later, the Filisur webcam had confirmed the consist to be the silo and timber empties earlier that afternoon, so 5152 had called at Surava and Thusis for traffic purposes, no doubt.

We took a ride to Thusis and caught 5151 up. At Thusis, another 2 wagons of loaded logs were added, tagged for Campo, as above. It then continued south behind RE1153.

A second southbound freight for Pontresina was soon into the loop at Thusis, 704 with Train 5155.This had blue waste containers and a Holcim tank to which the Thusis pilot added flats loaded with cars before it continued south at 1733.

Friday, 20th March

We were up and out for the early `all shacks' R1117 along the Albula, with Ge6/6 704 at the front and why not!

At Thusis, (0728) we found 705 waiting to follow our train south with 5113 (LQ-PORE). Four wagons of logs and a container was the load. At Surava (0755) 703 was waiting with Train 5120 (SAME-LQ) to head north having delivered a brace of maroon ACTS waste containers (seen earlier on the Filisur cam) and collected a pair of green containers

We dropped off at Bever where 705 rolled in at 0920 with 5113 to allow the Chur bound RE service to pass.

The return working of the above Pontresina freight arrived back at Samedan at 1030 with a good rake of containers. Freight No. 5140 to LQ then waits to follow the RE1136 than clear Bever at about 1120.

Shortly after 1230, 707 approached Bever with Freight 5129 (CH-SAME). This comprised in the main a rake of Kuoni and Calanda branded vans and maroon ACTS waste containers. At 1322 4/4' 610 having earlier worked RE1125 from Samedan to St.Moritz headed north with Freight No.5152 (SAME-LQ). The consist included an empty log bolster, low sided wagons and empty container carriers with a single Uc cement silo in the middle.

Our final freight of the day dropped down into Bever at 1412, when 633 appeared with a brace of Aldi branded containers being Freight No.5135 (LQ-PORE). We then headed down to Pontresina, where 633 was sat with a single empty log wagon waiting to follow R1952 back to Samedan.

Despite the lack of Ilanz water and container traffic, we managed to see and record a good cross section of the RhB freight during our visit. What a fascinating and photogenic railway. Any clarification on the Davos and Jenaz traffic queries would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Don

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, bob gillis <robertgillis@...> wrote:

csipromo wrote:

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "john87023" <nimbus.titan@>
wrote:

Hello Does anyone know if webcam on the Swiss Re460 is coming back
as it hasn't been available for many months

The Re 460 "My Switzerland" has been repainted in red and no longer
advertises for the Swiss Tourism Office. I think that this must have
something to do with the end of the webcam's use.

Since the loco is never seen from a camera in the cab, this makes little
sense. The Lokocam has not been working for about 3 months.

Although I have not seen a photo on the official site for over a year, it appears that the camera has been still active, as there are photos (archive) from much of 2008 and early January at
http://www.ferrosteph.net/ferrosteph/sbb/index.html

This was the site where the individual photos had been posted.
http://home.rol3.com/myswitzerland/Livebild.jpg

According to the Ferrosteph photos, the lok was in regular service until just before Christmas 2008. You are right in assuming that something mechanical must have happened to the lok that required longer than normal servicing.

Regards

Mike C

Greetings to All

A good friend of mine who regularly travels via SBB has been making and posting some videos of his journeys, and has kindly given me permission to share the URL with this group:

http://web.mac.com/guido.suter/Special/Willkommen.html

So far he has documented the routes Zürich-Zug-Steinhausen, and Bern-Luzern-Zug, as well as various views of some stations and their surroundings.

Enjoy!
Tim :->

csipromo wrote:

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "john87023" <nimbus.titan@...> wrote:

Hello Does anyone know if webcam on the Swiss Re460 is coming back as it hasn't been available for many months

The Re 460 "My Switzerland" has been repainted in red and no longer advertises for the Swiss Tourism Office. I think that this must have something to do with the end of the webcam's use.

Since the loco is never seen from a camera in the cab, this makes little
sense. The Lokocam has not been working for about 3 months.

bob gillis

Here is a photo from last year. You can see that the camera was still
installed in the cab in 01/2008. http://www.juergs.ch/bahn/vorbild/bilder/sbb/re460/078.html
I wonder if any of the members have more recent photos, so that we can see if the camera is still there a little over one year later.
Regards
Mike C
------------------------------------

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "john87023" <nimbus.titan@...> wrote:

Hello
Does anyone know if webcam on the Swiss Re460 is coming back as it hasn't been available for many months

The Re 460 "My Switzerland" has been repainted in red and no longer advertises for the Swiss Tourism Office. I think that this must have something to do with the end of the webcam's use.

Here is a photo from last year. You can see that the camera was still installed in the cab in 01/2008.
http://www.juergs.ch/bahn/vorbild/bilder/sbb/re460/078.html

I wonder if any of the members have more recent photos, so that we can see if the camera is still there a little over one year later.

Regards

Mike C

Hello
Does anyone know if webcam on the Swiss Re460 is coming back as it hasn't been available for many months

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "keith47424" <47424@...> wrote:

Despite going to Luzern I don't know how many times, I noticed this for the first time on Monday. I understand that this has now closed. Can anyone confirm this? And also give anymore information?

The funicular has closed and the funicular will be replaced by an elevator.
see this recent video from Swissinfo.

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/multimedia/video/detail.html?siteSect=15045&ty=vn&sid=10216649

Steve.

keith47424 wrote:

One thing I meant to advise one and all when I posted my gen earlier
this week was that AB lok number 1 worked the following service on
Thursday 12th March.
R1147 14.47 Gossau SG - Wasserauen
Not sure if this is a regular diagram for the lok or not.
Cheers Keith47424.

Since freight traffic has stopped, the Ge 4/4 is only occasionally
needed for service trains. Rest of the time it is used in passenger
traffic, mostly with modern ABt 117 (with cogwheel). The consist
will be found in any of the four Gossau-Wasserauen diagrams.

Thus: You will never know IF and WHERE you will meet the loc.

In former years AB had more than 4 diagrams. This meant that
the train arriving in Gosau waited there some 35 min while
another one left shortly after arrival. Now they usually arrive
...13/..43 and go back ..17/..47.

One additional consist was needed in former years because the
timetable made one consist wait in Wasserauen and another one
had to go off from Appenzell during this time.

Now a maximum of 7 consits is available for Gossau - Wasserauen:
BDe 4/4 41-45 with ABt 141-145
BDe 4/4 46 or 47 with ABt 146
Ge 4/4 1 with ABt 117 (or 141-45 or 181 or 111-116)

From the 7 cogwheel motor coaches 11-17 (with up to 10
driving trailers 111-117 and 121-123) six are needed on
weekdays! Four make the half-hourly two-hour round trip
St. Gallen - Appenzell - St. Gallen, one the hourly Gais -
Alst�tten round trip and the sixth is needed for two daily
peak hour trains, marked as fast trains in the timetable,
arriving at St. Gallen at 07:38 and leaving 17:52. Returning
from St. Gallen to Gais in the morning and going down in
the afternoon is done as empty stock.

Markus, G�rbetal

One thing I meant to advise one and all when I posted my gen earlier this week was that AB lok number 1 worked the following service on Thursday 12th March.
R1147 14.47 Gossau SG - Wasserauen
Not sure if this is a regular diagram for the lok or not.
Cheers Keith47424.

Despite going to Luzern I don't know how many times, I noticed this for the first time on Monday. I understand that this has now closed. Can anyone confirm this? And also give anymore information?

Fionnbarr Kennedy wrote:

line. This was sort of "keeping the existing motive power
at no extra costs for the owner" (German: Besitzstandwahrung).
Perhaps somebody could help with the correct English term.

Is it "protecting (or future proofing) the original investment"?

Doesn't sound bad to me. However, lawyers might use another
wording. ... ;-)

The Bombardier Traxx (Re 485) ... got Siemens equipment

and now presumably 486

No, 486 will get Bormbardier equipment. It isn't yet ready
(this is why the new 486 do not work through L�tschberg
or over the NBS) but is thought to be the first of its kind
to be able to manage border crossing!

got Siemens equipment because
this was easier to integrate with the existing exlectronic of these
locomotives.

Yes, am I correct in thinking they have a train bus of a supposedly
more modern standard to which ETCS can be hooked?

yes, but we should perhaps say "locomotive-internal bus" instead
of "train bus"...

Markus, G�rbetal