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Re: Re Recent Incident in Schlieren

Andrew Moglestue
 

The Local is not really a source of much inspiration. A sentence such as "the dozy passenger brought the train to a halt at a critical junction where several different types of current cross, causing a short-circuit." doesn't really cut much ice. I wonder how many types of current cross in Schlieren, or even what it means that currents cross. I was hoping somebody knew a bit more maybe.

"A piece of cable, 200 metres long, fell to the ground," said Kormann.


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--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" <muffcj@...> wrote:

Andy.

I read about this incident on www.thelocal.ch

The below link may be of interest

http://www.thelocal.ch/2319/20120118/

Copy and paste the above link into you URL bar, and all should be revealed

Andy Muff


Re Recent Incident in Schlieren

Andrew
 

Andy.

I read about this incident on www.thelocal.ch

The below link may be of interest

http://www.thelocal.ch/2319/20120118/

Copy and paste the above link into you URL bar, and all should be revealed

Andy Muff


Recent incident in Schlieren

Andrew Moglestue
 

Can anybody shed more light on the recent incident in Schlieren.

The media report a passenger used the emergency brake and stopped the train just under the neutral section of a section breaker. I can understand how that would block the train in that position but I don't understand how it can cause damage to the catenary. It is reported the pantograph short-circuited the section breaker, but surely the neutral section should be sufficiently long that that cannot happen?

Andrew


Re: Offer Centenary

tudor erich
 

Does this mean we can`t book except via a tour operator?
 
I want to obtain it as a `private` visitor, not as part of a package holiday.
 
Bernard


Offer Centenary

Andy Micklethwaite
 

My email to the JB has produced a reply - below.
Andy.

Dear Mr. Micklethwaite

One of my collegues has passed your email on to me - in order to inform you about our special centenary offer for the UK market.
We have put up the "National centenary" offer for summer for all Tour operators based in the UK eg. Swiss Travel Service (Neilson), Inghams or TUI.
They will be selling the special centenary pass- two for one - valid for 6 days- including 2 children free of charge - to all individual guests from the UK!
So kindly have a look at their brochures or webpages. We have launched the offer not only for one week, but for the months May, September and October.
Also during winter Inghams and also TUI are selling special two for one offers on the skipasses in our region!

We hope that with this news you do not have to change your favourite destination.
Best wishes from the Jungfrau region.
Daniela Fuchs


Re: Flat crossings at Swiss stations

Krist van Besien
 

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Guerbetaler
<muesche2-swissrail@yahoo.de> wrote:
Am 18.01.2012 11:37, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
A question on another forum set me thinking - are there any stations left
in Switzerland on 'busy' or 'main' lines where peol still have to cross the
tracks on the flat (ie no subway or footbridge) - or have all such stations
been rebuilt with platform subways? I presume there are still a few flat
crossings around on secondary lines?
Replace the last "few" with "many" ...
But how many unprotected ones are there still left?

At Liebefeld, where I get off the train every morning passengers have
to cross the tracks at grade to, but it is via a protected crossing.

Krist

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Re: 420506

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.01.2012 20:55, schrieb 43096:
Quick question about BLS loco 420506... The last I knew this loco was
reported as being only suitable for use as a carriage heating loco.
So, has it been fixed, or was this a mis-reporting?
420 503 and 506 have returned to normal duties after a revision.

Markus, G�rbetal


420506

43096
 

Quick question about BLS loco 420506...

I was surprised to see this loco reported on ERG as working 6123 1420 Interlaken Ost-Spiez on 17/01.

The last I knew this loco was reported as being only suitable for use as a carriage heating loco. So, has it been fixed, or was this a mis-reporting?

Ta!


Re: Flat crossings at Swiss stations

Dave Edmondston <davee@...>
 

Very slightly off topic* - they still allow you to get run over on the main line at Konstanz, though the gate shuts if a train is approaching, and you have to use the underpass.

*by about 100 metres, and it's an SBB train that'll get you.


Re: Flat crossings at Swiss stations

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.01.2012 11:37, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
A question on another forum set me thinking - are there any stations left
in Switzerland on 'busy' or 'main' lines where peol still have to cross the
tracks on the flat (ie no subway or footbridge) - or have all such stations
been rebuilt with platform subways? I presume there are still a few flat
crossings around on secondary lines?
Replace the last "few" with "many" ...

Markus, G�rbetal


Old Kursbuch

bs177@...
 

I have a number of old Kursbuch to dispose of if anyone is interested.
Most have the Ausland summer and/or winter supplement (AS or AW) and some have the bus section (B) as well.

Those available are:-

1985 Summer
1987/8
1988/9 (AW)
1989/90 (AS AW B)
1990/1 (AS AW B)
1991/2 (AS AW B)
1992/3 (AS AW B)
1993/4 (AS B)
1994/5 (AS AW B)
1995/6 (AS AW B)
1996/7 (AS AW B)
1997/8 (AS B)
1998/9 (AS B)
1999/2000 (B)
2000/2001 (B)
2002 Jun - Dec (B)
2004/5 Dec - Dec (B)

If anyone is interested in any of these for a modest sum plus postage, please contact me off group at:-
mail@railwaybooks.org

Cheers

Bruce Smetham


Re: Cressier Refinery Closed - Monday 16th January 2012

Andrew Moglestue
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Wiseman <gordonwis@...> wrote:

In the past I have seen Swiss aviation fuel tank trains running out of
Dunkerque presumably destined for the Glatttal to supply Zurich
Airport. Might this type of flow increase at the expense of local
trains running out of Cornaux and St Triphon.

What happens to the pipeline from Fos to Cressier? Does it get mothballed?
I believe some also is taken to Basel on ships and uses the train only for the last leg to Rümlang.

Andrew


Flat crossings at Swiss stations

Gordon Wiseman <gordonwis@...>
 

A question on another forum set me thinking - are there any stations left
in Switzerland on 'busy' or 'main' lines where peol still have to cross the
tracks on the flat (ie no subway or footbridge) - or have all such stations
been rebuilt with platform subways? I presume there are still a few flat
crossings around on secondary lines?


Re: Cressier Refinery Closed - Monday 16th January 2012

csipromo
 

The closing of refineries in favour of transporting oil from refineries closer to the source, ie the Middle East, Southern Europe or along the Atlantic coast rather than processing the crude in the destination country increases the dependance on those sources, while all the while politicians talk about energy self sufficiency and protecting national companies. This only benefits the international oil companies who now have no local or regional competition and can increase prices to wholesalers and gas stations.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Cressier Refinery Closed - Monday 16th January 2012

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 17.01.2012 14:13, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
In the past I have seen Swiss aviation fuel tank trains running out of
Dunkerque presumably destined for the Glatttal to supply Zurich
Airport. Might this type of flow increase at the expense of local
trains running out of Cornaux and St Triphon.
Maybe. IIRC it was said that St-Triphon can coer 20% and Cressier 25% of the total Swiss consumption.

What happens to the pipeline from Fos to Cressier? Does it get mothballed?
The pipeline might be adapted to transport products like the one going to Gen�ve.

I'd like to remind you that St-Triphon had been closed for quite some time.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Wassen sunlight

Fionnbarr Kennedy
 


--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, John Beaulieu <beaulieu@> wrote:

On 1/16/2012 4:36 AM, disco1ie wrote:

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If you enlarge the photos you will see that it has ribbed side panels. It's definitely a 474.
Yes - its this one:

http://www.fionnbarr.com/gallery2/v/Rail/Swiss/Swiss-Motive-Power/DSC_0198.jpg.html

Didn't get the number but a 474 it is

By the way I post hi res (for the web anyway). Click on the double rectangle icon above any of my pics (beside the camera icon) and a large one opens in a popup (you may need to allow popups from my site to see them)

Regards all

Fionnbarr
www.fionnbarr.com


Re: Cressier Refinery Closed - Monday 16th January 2012

Gordon Wiseman <gordonwis@...>
 

In the past I have seen Swiss aviation fuel tank trains running out of
Dunkerque presumably destined for the Glatttal to supply Zurich
Airport. Might this type of flow increase at the expense of local
trains running out of Cornaux and St Triphon.

What happens to the pipeline from Fos to Cressier? Does it get mothballed?


Re: Cressier Refinery Closed - Monday 16th January 2012

Don
 

Thanks for the information Markus and for the additional comments regarding St Triphon. I guess there will be traffic out of Cornaux, while stocks are run down and arrangements for alternative supplies put in action. Here's to a positive outcome for the workers at Cressier.

Don

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Guerbetaler <muesche2-swissrail@...> wrote:

Am 16.01.2012 21:00, schrieb Don:
Any observations/local knowledge would be welcomed.
No observations yet, but:
- If Petroplus (owner of Cressier) is to deliver, then Ingolstadt would
be the one refinery still working.
- After the Ghaddafi crisis some three years ago, Middle East stepped in
as suppliers for Switzerland. There are thoughts (or hopes?) that Middle
East oil companies could buy Cressier and resume the production.
- St-Triphon is not that modern as Cressier and might have to shut down
because they don't meet the safety standards.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Wassen sunlight

John Whitby
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, John Beaulieu <beaulieu@...> wrote:

On 1/16/2012 4:36 AM, disco1ie wrote:

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I thought this was fairly common:
http://www.fionnbarr.com/gallery2/v/Rail/Swiss/Snow/DSC_0292.jpg.html
&
http://www.fionnbarr.com/gallery2/v/Rail/Swiss/Snow/DSC_0293.jpg.html

this was 2007.
These two photographs are of SBB Cargo Re484s, note the smooth side panels.

John Beaulieu


If you enlarge the photos you will see that it has ribbed side panels. It's definitely a 474.


Re: Cressier Refinery Closed - Monday 16th January 2012

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 16.01.2012 21:00, schrieb Don:
Any observations/local knowledge would be welcomed.
No observations yet, but:
- If Petroplus (owner of Cressier) is to deliver, then Ingolstadt would be the one refinery still working.
- After the Ghaddafi crisis some three years ago, Middle East stepped in as suppliers for Switzerland. There are thoughts (or hopes?) that Middle East oil companies could buy Cressier and resume the production.
- St-Triphon is not that modern as Cressier and might have to shut down because they don't meet the safety standards.

Markus, G�rbetal

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