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Re: Gotthard train cab ride

Andrew Moglestue
 

you can also get a slightly cheaper version here:

http://www.ae47.ch/ae47/index.htm


Re: Gotthard train cab ride

gordonwis
 

Longer standing members of the group may have heard this before as I seem to remember we covered the subject a while go.
Luckily I have no need to spend such a vast sum of money because in the 1980s you were officially allowed to ride in the ‘cab’ for free on local trains that had a driving trailer (US=cab car)


Re: Gotthard train cab ride

Roger W. Fischer
 

I am just curious to know if any of this group's members have paid the
~SF 750 to ride in the locomotive cab on the Gotthard line. The price
is so high my curiosity is aroused.
My brother and I received the trip, Arth Goldau to Locarno, as a gift. It
was absolutely spectacular. The weather was great. The accompanying engineer
provided informative and entertaining commentary all the way.

The rest of the family traveled coach, and we made it a day-outing to the
Ticino.

The price is steep, but at least one has the opportunity to ride in the cab.


I am glad I was able to do it. It is a memory that I will treasure.

Roger


Gotthard train cab ride

John Lovda
 

I am just curious to know if any of this group's members have paid the ~SF 750 to ride in the locomotive cab on the Gotthard line. The price is so high my curiosity is aroused.

John Lovda


Innotrans 2012

Keith Hookham <keith47424@...>
 


Re: Chur area gen 15/09/2012

Don
 

Many thanks Markus, the 450s will back on their weekdays duties elsewhere on Monday.

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Markus <guerbetaler@...> wrote:

Am 16.09.2012 16:19, schrieb Don:
The 450 push-pull units are probably being used to cover the RE
services during weekend engineering work on the route to St Gallen.
Probably, yes. sbb.ch has the following information:

Bauarbeiten:St. Margrethen - Heerbrugg
Bauarbeiten: Zwischen St. Margrethen und Heerbrugg auf der Linie St.
Margrethen - Buchs SG ist die Strecke für den Bahnverkehr unterbrochen.

Die Züge RE St. Gallen - Chur fallen zwischen St. Margrethen und
Heerbrugg aus.

Es verkehren Ersatzbusse St. Margrethen - Heerbrugg.
Die Anschlüsse Bus/Bahn in St. Margrethen und Heerbrugg sind gewährleistet.

[...]

Dauer der Bauarbeiten von 14.09.2012 22:00 - 16.09.2012 Betriebsschluss.


Thus it was Friday evening - Sunday night where only Chur - Heerbrugg
can be run with trains and for this, push-pull sets are necessary.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Chur area gen 15/09/2012

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.09.2012 16:19, schrieb Don:
The 450 push-pull units are probably being used to cover the RE
services during weekend engineering work on the route to St Gallen.
Probably, yes. sbb.ch has the following information:

Bauarbeiten:St. Margrethen - Heerbrugg
Bauarbeiten: Zwischen St. Margrethen und Heerbrugg auf der Linie St. Margrethen - Buchs SG ist die Strecke f�r den Bahnverkehr unterbrochen.

Die Z�ge RE St. Gallen - Chur fallen zwischen St. Margrethen und Heerbrugg aus.

Es verkehren Ersatzbusse St. Margrethen - Heerbrugg.
Die Anschl�sse Bus/Bahn in St. Margrethen und Heerbrugg sind gew�hrleistet.

[...]

Dauer der Bauarbeiten von 14.09.2012 22:00 - 16.09.2012 Betriebsschluss.


Thus it was Friday evening - Sunday night where only Chur - Heerbrugg can be run with trains and for this, push-pull sets are necessary.

Markus, G�rbetal


Previous Ae 6/6 workings producing pairs of Re4/4" locos, plus Cornaux tanks.

Don
 

A few days based near Olten earlier this month enabled me to spend time on both the Olten-Sursee and Olten-Solothurn lines.

On the plus side the tank trains to and from Cornaux were in full swing again following the closure and change of ownership. Most were in the hands of an Re 6/6 loco.

The down side saw the appearance of a number of pairs of Re 4/4" locos on freight workings previously often worked by an Ae 6/6 locomotive.

Don


Re: Chur area gen 15/09/2012

Don
 

The 450 push-pull units are probably being used to cover the RE services during weekend engineering work on the route to St Gallen. Indeed, if you check the SBB on-line timetable there is a section of bus operation on the St Gallen-Chur workings. This was the case earlier this year (June) when 450 units worked Chur-Rorschach shuttles when buses were used between the latter station and St Gallen at weekends. The Class 420 (Re 4/4") workings will be back in full swing during the week, I guess.

Cheers,

Don

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Guerbetaler <muesche2-swissrail@...> wrote:

Am 15.09.2012 23:43, schrieb Jon Hills:
Elsewhere noted all the Regio Expresses from Chur to St Gallen,
previously in the hands of Re 4/4s have gone over to class 450s.
Strange information and not what I have seen. They WILL go over to KISS
class 511 but at the moment are still running with Re 420. And, by the
way, class 450 are also Re 4/4, so you should be more precise. Nearly
everything is Re 4/4... :-P

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Chur area gen 15/09/2012

Jon Hills
 

Maybe it is a weekend only thing?

All the services yesterday and today I've viewed have been in the hands of 450s and S Bahn double deck stock not the more usual 420s as always previously used to be on these trains.

Big Jon.


Re: Chur area gen 15/09/2012

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 15.09.2012 23:43, schrieb Jon Hills:
Elsewhere noted all the Regio Expresses from Chur to St Gallen,
previously in the hands of Re 4/4s have gone over to class 450s.
Strange information and not what I have seen. They WILL go over to KISS class 511 but at the moment are still running with Re 420. And, by the way, class 450 are also Re 4/4, so you should be more precise. Nearly everything is Re 4/4... :-P

Markus, G�rbetal


Zentral Bahn. Last Day Over the Barrier Section Luzern to Horn

stephenhorobin
 

November the 8th will be the last day of services over the 'Barrier Strecke' wuth the new line under the Allmentunnel coming into service on the 9th November.
There will be a series of steam shuttles between Luzern and Horw worked by the Ballenberg Steam Museum throughout the day with the last departure at 00.33 to Dallenwill including a midnight brunch and bus back to Luzern!
Tickests cost CHF5 per single trip except CHF35 for the midnight special.

http://www.ballenberg-dampfbahn.ch/18001/60701.html

Steve.


Chur area gen 15/09/2012

Jon Hills
 

Evening All.

Crocodile 414 worked today's Extrazug from Disentis to Landquart.

Elsewhere noted all the Regio Expresses from Chur to St Gallen, previously in the hands of Re 4/4s have gone over to class 450s.

Cheers,
Big Jon in the Graubündens.



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Re: Numbering of new ZB EMU’s

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 15.09.2012 12:16, schrieb racksteam:
I am not a "number cruncher" so do not fully understand the proposed
numbering system, but what did I see at Brunig two years ago numbered
942-8? It looks like a prototype of 3 cars for an Adler 7 car set -
see the photo I have just uploaded under Zentralbahn
ABt 941 - 943 are the articulated driving trailers developed for the Luzern - Engelberg trains through the new tunnel. As the new tunnel took somewhat longer than planned to be terminated, these vehicles were otherwise used. Now they are in their predestined service. Of course they are "relatives" of the new trains, but this is also true for many other recently built vehicles from Stadler. These ABt are not easy to distinguish from the SPATZ EMUs.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Numbering of new ZB EMU’s

racksteam <pra@...>
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Markus <guerbetaler@...> wrote:

More than thoughts. ZB has no official 12 digit numbers so far. The
company was informed that no narrow gauge vehicle will get a 94 85
number but that all narrow gauge rolling stock will be numbered in the
90 85 8 (motive power) or 96 85 8 (other vehicles) range. But ZB will
not get a six-digit number range for the few vehicles they have. Four
digits must do. Thus the now applied number is not an official number,
will not be registered in the NVR and will soon be replaced with a
90 85 825 .... number.

The only vehicles numbered in the new system so far are those of TMR
also running on French infrastructure.

Markus, Gürbetal
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I am always interested in happenings on Zb and, having stayed in Meiringen for 10 days last month, I saw 150 101-1 and 160 001-1 on test and/or driver training runs.

I am not a "number cruncher" so do not fully understand the proposed numbering system, but what did I see at Brunig two years ago numbered 942-8? It looks like a prototype of 3 cars for an Adler 7 car set - see the photo I have just uploaded under Zentralbahn

Having travelled over the Brunig line many times since the mid-1980s I am amazed at all the works being undertaken at the various loops and stations between Giswil and Brunig. Just what is happening at Giswil as there is already a bay platform for the Luzern local trains? Is the large area across the tracks being developed for storage sidings and what is the tall wooden building for?

Just curious!
Pete Arnold (UK)


Re: Numbering of new ZB EMU’s

Guerbetaler
 

Am 14.09.2012 18:11, schrieb locfuehreruk:
Numbering of new ZB EMU's
[....]
ABeh 150 101- 1 - WR 150 301-6 � ABeh 150 201-(?)
160 001-1 160 002-8
My question is on the check digits. They don't work out just using
the six digit number [...]

Any thoughts anyone?
More than thoughts. ZB has no official 12 digit numbers so far. The company was informed that no narrow gauge vehicle will get a 94 85 number but that all narrow gauge rolling stock will be numbered in the 90 85 8 (motive power) or 96 85 8 (other vehicles) range. But ZB will not get a six-digit number range for the few vehicles they have. Four digits must do. Thus the now applied number is not an official number, will not be registered in the NVR and will soon be replaced with a
90 85 825 .... number.

The only vehicles numbered in the new system so far are those of TMR also running on French infrastructure.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re 6/6 14.09.2012

Martin Baumann <martinbaumann112@...>
 

As of today only three locos are not in traffic. All others that were out of serivice are now running again.
 
11602 awaiting repair Zurich RBL
11611 awaiting repair Bellinzona
11622 stored in Bellinzona works


Numbering of new ZB EMU’s

Colin Baker
 

Numbering of new ZB EMU's

Class ABReh 150 – `Adler'

From recent photos of the delivery of the first unit of this type it can be seen that these 7 car sets are made up of two 3 car fixed sets (due to bogie layout) plus a separate middle Bistrowagen with a formation:-

ABeh 150 101- 1 - WR 150 301-6 – ABeh 150 201-(?)

Class ABeh 160 – `Fink'

The first two of these 3 car units have also been delivered.
160 001-1
160 002-8

My question is on the check digits. They don't work out just using the six digit number (as with previous traction up to the recent class 130) or with the expected 12 digit number 94 85 0 xxx xxx-x. Also the two units of class 160's so far are not even consistent with themselves.

Other than 160 002-8 (which I photographed from both ends and checked as far as I could for a UIC number anywhere on it at Mieringen depot in June) the rest work do out with 94 85 4 xxx xxx-x.

The other variable could be the exchange code if they were classed as 90 Miscellaneous (i.e. traction unit not otherwise classified) or 99 Special vehicle because they are narrow gauge rather than the 94 for EMU.

Any thoughts anyone?

Cheers, Colin


http://www.bahnonline.ch/wp/43748/zentralbahn-stadler-fink.htm


Re: New group member; questions about Geneva-area railfanning

Bryan Fulsom
 

Hello,

Many thanks to everyone for the very helpful information! Hopefully I'll put it to good use in my free time next week (and coming months).

It looks like I might head over to Brig to railfan for a day next weekend, so any further tips can be sent to me off-list and would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Bryan


Re: New group member; questions about Geneva-area railfanning

gordonwis
 

A nice photographic location is Chateau de Chillon near Montreux where the line runs beside the lake. I saw 3 freights there in around 40 minutes in the middle of the day.
The timings of this batch of freights can checked my looking at the time my photos were taken in this album: http://Gwizz.zenfolio.com/lemanjun12
(hover in the extreme top right of each photo and an I for information symbol appears giving the camera /time/date etc details)

the Hotel a la Gare in Lausanne is very nice and reasonably priced and overlooks the station...but be prepared as the hotel is so close to the track that trains can stop you from sleeping both from noise and vibration.
Presumably the hotel is reasonably priced for that very reason!


Forgive me if I don't seem to be giving my share of response re lineside hotels but with free board and lodging near Genève I seldom stay in hotels especially in western Switzerland (I more often use campsites or holiday chalets if further away from Geneva) . One hotel I used to recommend is the Hotel Bahnhof at Ausserberg on the Lotschberg mountain route south ramp but that's not so much fun since the base tunnel opened.

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