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Re: Quick question regarding Baggage cars and push-pull consists

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 27.11.2012 00:43, schrieb Guerbetaler:
EW II
D 50 85 92-33 200-239 not wired
D 50 85 92-33 600-709 wired, but hardly ever used in push-pull

LS DZ
DZ 50 85 91-33 500-509 wired, but only used for push-pull in the 1950/60ies
You might wonder why SBB had 120 vans wired for push-pull/MU but didn't
use them. Before the UIC-cable for door and light control was introduced
and the EW IV started to appear, SBB did this job (doors and light) with
the help of the MU-cable III. So almost all EW II were MU-wired and the
Gen�ve - St. Gallen trains were block trains of EW II with the exception
of the dining car.
... and the exception of the DZ in some trains, obviously

This was until about 1975.
Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Quick question regarding Baggage cars and push-pull consists

OL.Guerbetal
 

Some additional "gen" that might be of some interest:

Am 27.11.2012 00:23, schrieb Markus:
EW II
D 50 85 92-33 200-239 not wired
D 50 85 92-33 600-709 wired, but hardly ever used in push-pull

LS DZ
DZ 50 85 91-33 500-509 wired, but only used for push-pull in the 1950/60ies
You might wonder why SBB had 120 vans wired for push-pull/MU but didn't use them. Before the UIC-cable for door and light control was introduced and the EW IV started to appear, SBB did this job (doors and light) with the help of the MU-cable III. So almost all EW II were MU-wired and the Gen�ve - St. Gallen trains were block trains of EW II with the exception of the dining car. This was until about 1975.

The Dt were originally DZt but anyway, all SBB driving trailers with
IIId-type MU had a luggage compartment and there was no need for a
luggage van in these consists.
The only Bt for IIId were the 12 driving trailers of MThB, GFM, MO, RVT and WM, later Thurbo, TPF and TMR (and still in use with BLS and TRAVYS) plus the Bt EW III (now also BLS).

Re 4/4" were not allowed for push-pull and the number of driving
trailers was just enough for the RBe 4/4.
To allow Re 4/4" pushing trains the driving trailers had to be modified preventing a traction current of more than 2000 Amps. (SER 5/81)

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Quick question regarding Baggage cars and push-pull consists

Guerbetaler
 

Am 26.11.2012 23:44, schrieb csipromo:
I was asked today which baggage cars were used in push-pull consists
with Re 4/4I, Re 4/4II and RBe 4/4.

The question relates to the following models:

EWII D - Roco 4240/44333 LS DZ - Liliput 87950 or newer LS D -
Maerklin 43400/43401

Which ones of the prototypes of these models were used in push-pull
consists?
All types, but not all vans.
EW II
D 50 85 92-33 200-239 not wired
D 50 85 92-33 600-709 wired, but hardly ever used in push-pull

LS DZ
DZ 50 85 91-33 500-509 wired, but only used for push-pull in the 1950/60ies

LS D
D 50 85 92-33 050-176 not wired
D 50 85 92-33 500-522 standard on the Gotthard, Re 4/4'-D-B-B-ABt

For the Re 4/4' there were also 6 BDt/Dt/DZt LS and these consists
didn't need a luggage van. Of the 22 ABt EW I about 50% were needed with BDe 4/4. Later 8 ABt LS rebuilt from AB joined the party, which allowed to make good use of the 26 MU-wired Re 4/4' 10001-10026.

One last question, other than the converted B (BDt Haessliches
Entlein) and the Dt and BDt EWII, were there any other pilot coaches
that ran with Re 4/4II during the first years of the 1980s?
The Dt were originally DZt but anyway, all SBB driving trailers with IIId-type MU had a luggage compartment and there was no need for a luggage van in these consists.

Re 4/4" were not allowed for push-pull and the number of driving trailers was just enough for the RBe 4/4.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Jura Border Rail Questions

csipromo
 

SBB is offering a special price to Paris from CHF 31.- that may be cheaper than the actual single ticket fare to Frasne.

Check www.sbb.ch for info

This site also has some information on the border lines:
This site has some detail on border lines, including the Neuchatel-Les Verrieres-Frasne line:

http://www.bueker.net/trainspotting/lines_switzerland-france.php

Regards

Mike C


Quick question regarding Baggage cars and push-pull consists

csipromo
 

I was asked today which baggage cars were used in push-pull consists with Re 4/4I, Re 4/4II and RBe 4/4.

The question relates to the following models:

EWII D - Roco 4240/44333
LS DZ - Liliput 87950 or newer
LS D - Maerklin 43400/43401

Which ones of the prototypes of these models were used in push-pull consists?

One last question, other than the converted B (BDt Haessliches Entlein) and the Dt and BDt EWII, were there any other pilot coaches that ran with Re 4/4II during the first years of the 1980s?

Thanks and regards,

Mike C


Re: Jura Border Rail Questions

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 26.11.2012 21:57, schrieb muenchensteinerstrasse:
I have a few related questions on the border connections in the
Jura:
Jura is a mountain ridge and Jura is a canton. Which one do you mean?

1) I am wondering if the section of track is part of the "Swiss rail
network". On my recent "Swiss Travel System" map, this section has
been colored gray (prior years it has been colored red). If it is,
would this section be the least frequently serviced active passenger
track in Switzerland? Is there some other section which I have
missed?
First: Swiss Travel System validity and Swiss GA validity are not identical.

Second: There are four border crossings in the Jura:
1) Boncourt - Delle (canton of Jura)
2) Le Locle-Col-des-Roches - Morteau (canton of Neuch�tel)
3) Travers - Pontarlier (canton of Neuch�tel)
4) Vallorbe - Frasne (canton of Vaud)

Which one do you mean?

2) Given that I have a Swiss GA, If I wanted to take a TGV to from
Neuchatel to Frasne, would I need to buy a ticket from Neuchatel - or
from Pontarlier to Frasne? The SBB clerk I spoke to said he'd sell
me either - but that he wasn't sure which was technically correct.
After all recent maps I have, validity ends in Travers and the TGV doesn't stop there, so you have to buy a ticket from Neuch�tel.

3) Frasne-Vallorbe-Lausanne: The SNCF has a charge of 25 Euros for
the Frasne to Vallorbe TGV - making it one of the costlier per KM
segments I have travelled - however, similarly to the Pontarlier
question - I am assuming I can just "get off and reboard" in Vallorbe
and head to Lausanne with an unreserved seat using a Swiss GA. Would
this be correct? Someone had written in a previous post that
"Vallorbe is not a normal station" regarding TGV fares.
The TGVs are not listed in Swiss timetables and the stop in Vallorbe is marked as only in direction of France. I don't know what happens if you would board the train in Vallorbe in the direction of Lausanne and you would show your Swiss ticket. Maybe you would be considered a passenger without a valid ticket? I have never tried. Anybody else?

Markus, G�rbetal


Jura Border Rail Questions

muenchensteinerstrasse
 

Much thanks for your help on what in retrospect was a seemingly obvious question regarding the neubahnstrecke between Olten and Solothurn.

I have a few related questions on the border connections in the Jura:

1) I am wondering if the section of track is part of the "Swiss rail network". On my recent "Swiss Travel System" map, this section has been colored gray (prior years it has been colored red). If it is, would this section be the least frequently serviced active passenger track in Switzerland? Is there some other section which I have missed?

2) Given that I have a Swiss GA, If I wanted to take a TGV to from Neuchatel to Frasne, would I need to buy a ticket from Neuchatel - or from Pontarlier to Frasne? The SBB clerk I spoke to said he'd sell me either - but that he wasn't sure which was technically correct.

3) Frasne-Vallorbe-Lausanne: The SNCF has a charge of 25 Euros for the Frasne to Vallorbe TGV - making it one of the costlier per KM segments I have travelled - however, similarly to the Pontarlier question - I am assuming I can just "get off and reboard" in Vallorbe and head to Lausanne with an unreserved seat using a Swiss GA. Would this be correct? Someone had written in a previous post that "Vallorbe is not a normal station" regarding TGV fares.

Much thanks in advance

Jason


GEX and BEX now official

OL.Guerbetal
 

In the new timetable, GEX and BEX are now used as own train categories like IC, EC etc.

Markus, Gürbetal


X 73500 on Sursee-Triengen

OL.Guerbetal
 

Tomorrow, an SNCF diesel railcar X 73500, normally working into La Chaux-de-Fonds will be used for some trains Sursee - Triengen, besides a steam train.

http://www.dampfzug.ch/index.php?idcatside=262


New Graphic timetables

OL.Guerbetal
 

Many new graphic timetables are already uploaded, but still in an invisible directory. They can be downloaded with the following links until December 1st. On that date, they will be moved to the main directory and the 2012 graphics to directory /12/.

Numbers/names are as indicated on
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/de/archiv/grafische-fahrplaene/

http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G101.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G102.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G111.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G112.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G113.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G114.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G115.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G116.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G117.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G121.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G122.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G123.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G124.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G141.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G142.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G151.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G152.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G201.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G202.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G203.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G204.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G211.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G212.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G221.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G222.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G223.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G231.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G232.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G240.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G241.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G242.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G243.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G244.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G245.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G246.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G247.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G248.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G249.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G251.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G252.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G261.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G271.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G272.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G281.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G282.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G291.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G292.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G293.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G301.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G302.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G303.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G304.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G311.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G312.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G331.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G341.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G411.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G412.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G421.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G422.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G431.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G432.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G441.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G451.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G461.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G462.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G481.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G482.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G491.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G492.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G501.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G502.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G503.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G511.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G521.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G522.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G531.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G541.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G542.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G543.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G544.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G551.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/G552.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GASM1.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GASM2.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GBOB.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GCJ.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB1.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB1b.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB2.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB2b.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB3.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB4.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB5S.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB5W.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB6S.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhB6W.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GRhBVP.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GTMR1.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GTMR2.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GTRN1.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GTRN2.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GTVYS2.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadmin/fap_pdf_graphic_tt/13/GWB.pdf


ZVV new timetable download already available

Martin Baumann
 


Re 4/4 II Lion update

Martin Baumann
 

The following locos have been overhauled and are back in traffic, not necessarily on double decker trains:

11202 > 91 85 4 420 202-4 CH-SBB
11203 > 91 85 4 420 203-2 CH-SBB
11205 > 91 85 4 420 205-7 CH-SBB
11209 > 91 85 4 420 209-9 CH-SBB
11213 > 91 85 4 420 213-1 CH-SBB
11216 > 91 85 4 420 216-4 CH-SBB
11221 > 91 85 4 420 221-4 CH-SBB
11224 > 91 85 4 420 224-8 CH-SBB
11227 > 91 85 4 420 227-1 CH-SBB
11230 > 91 85 4 420 230-5 CH-SBB

11226 and 11229 are currently in Bellinzona works for conversion


Re: RhB test train

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 22.11.2012 07:12, schrieb glenn allen:
You describe the rear loco as being the pusher, the front as being a
'braker' how would this be acheived? is the driver operating front
the front with the controls only operating the rear loco (no
tractive effort on the part of the front loco?)
remember, I wrote:
The second locomotive's task is to simulate a certain load
applying its recuperation brake.
So, one locomotive (rear) brings tractive effort, one locomotive (front) brings braking effort. They must be operated differently, no MU is possible.

If I remember previous information the normal formation will have the
loco at the front and the driving trailer at the rear when running
Chur to St Moritz. These tests would appear to be proving that the
formation can operate the other way round if ever required.
Right. This could happen when Albula is closed and a train goes from Samedan via Vereina to Landquart, continues empty to Chur and works back the normal route over the (reopened) Albula.

Another case to be tested (and this is why an EW II is involved) are additional coaches plus a driving trailer ahead. Then the locomotive would be in the middle of the train. E.g. direction St. Moritz:
BDt 1721
some EW II
Ge 4/4 III
Albula Gliederzug 6 elements
1st class driving trailer

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: RhB test train

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 22.11.2012 05:35, schrieb Krist van Besien:
So the RhB wants to run push-pull on Chur -St. Moritz. What does that
mean for the new trains ordered for the route? Will they still have
the photographers lounge at one end?
Nothing is fixed yet. I can only tell you what I heard, here and there. The push-pull will mean that a first class driving trailer will be added to the consist. It will have a low floor entry, so persons with reduced mobility will be able to travel in second and first class.

Push-pull means that one consist can be saved. Instead of 7 times 6 coaches, the order shall become 6 times 7 coaches. On peak days, operation will be different. But still no contract signed, this might be done before the end of the year.


Re: Ae 6/6 - Workings Database

Don
 

Gordon Wiseman <gordonwis@...> wrote:

I can certainly add my observations but as everything is about to change.............
I for one will not enter the various workings I have identified and provided info./illustrations of during 2012. I too will await the forthcoming changes and for hopefully the first sightings and any further detail/operational pattern that will/may emerge post December.

Cheers, Don
Submitted 08:45 22/11/2012


Re: "Gen" means "information".

Andy McMillan <andytrainman@...>
 

Gordon writes;

Gen is defined in quite simple terms in my Collins English dictionary
and in the online Oxford dictionary:
It would be, Gordon. Dictionaries are like everything else, the
cheaper they are, the less information they hold. So a thin,
dictionary with three columns per page has little or no space for
subtlety; a thicker, multi-volume dictionary has more room for details
and nuanced usages. Besides, the clue is in the extension you so
helpfully quote,
- 'Oxford says of the origin:
Second World War (originally used in the armed services): perhaps from
the first syllable of general information' -
Note that is, 'general information' - not 'specific information',
'detailed information' or 'full information'... Yes, the difference
is subtle but it is a useful one and misuse merely robs us of some of
the accuracy of understanding for which the English language (among
others, of course!), has long been considered valuable. That's why I
offered my elucidation and based it on personal knowledge - few of us
own the same dictionary!

FYI, the 'Oxford Online Dictionary' is NOT the same as the
world-famous 'Oxford English Dictionary', http://www.oed.com/ which is
well described by Wiki at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_English_Dictionary . The OOD is
however, a good dictionary; it is just a free one and you get what you
pay for...

Thanks for the additional supporting information.

Kind regards, Andy.


Re: RhB test train

glenn allen
 

________________________________
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Guerbetaler wrote:

Simulation of push-pull trains Chur - St. Moritz - Chur.
Marcus,
 
You describe the rear loco as being the pusher, the front as being a 'braker' how would this be acheived? is the driver operating front the front with the controls only operating the rear loco (no tractive effort on the part of the front loco?)
If I remember previous information the normal formation will have the loco at the front and the driving trailer at the rear when running Chur to St Moritz. These tests would appear to be proving that the formation can operate the other way round if ever required.

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Re: RhB test train

Krist van Besien
 

On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09 AM, Guerbetaler
<muesche2-swissrail@yahoo.de> wrote:

Simulation of push-pull trains Chur - St. Moritz - Chur.
So the RhB wants to run push-pull on Chur -St. Moritz. What does that
mean for the new trains ordered for the route? Will they still have
the photographers lounge at one end?

Krist

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Re: RhB test train

OL.Guerbetal
 

Sorry, the coaches are the other way round

Am 22.11.2012 00:09, schrieb Guerbetaler:
Am 21.11.2012 09:59, schrieb glenn allen:
This : http://schmalspurbahn.ch/filisur/webcam/a121120094236315 has
been wandering back and forwards recently, does anyone know what it
is up to?
Simulation of push-pull trains Chur - St. Moritz - Chur. The second
locomotive's task is to simulate a certain load applying its
recuperation brake. Consist is:
braking locomotive - 2 coaches with measuring equipment - EW II -
pushing locomotive.

<http://www.schmalspurbahn.ch/filisur/webcam/a121119102620162>

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: RhB test train

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 21.11.2012 09:59, schrieb glenn allen:
This : http://schmalspurbahn.ch/filisur/webcam/a121120094236315 has
been wandering back and forwards recently, does anyone know what it
is up to?
Simulation of push-pull trains Chur - St. Moritz - Chur. The second locomotive's task is to simulate a certain load applying its recuperation brake. Consist is:

braking locomotive - EW II - 2 coaches with measuring equipment - pushing locomotive.

Markus, G�rbetal

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