Date   

BLS today

Martin Baumann
 

01/01/2013
163 3115
162 3114

3115 Golden Pass set
A826
A827
AB 801
B 829
B 828
BDt 940

3115
Bt 953
B 458
B 717
B 470
AB 890
A 402

Martin Baumann


Ae 6/6 11430 and 610 519

Martin Baumann
 

These two locos are currently stabled at the north end of platform 2 at Bulach

Martin Baumann


Re 4/4 II 31.12.2012

Martin Baumann
 

3810 Rorschach-Zurich HB 11214+11143

20709 and 19173 420 216+420 230

19120 420 213+420 203 19167 not observed

19126 and 19163 420 209+420 221

19124/19070 diagram not observed

IC 183 Singen-Zurich HB 11223

Happy New Year to all SWISSRAIL members

Martin Baumann

EC 7 Zurich HB-Chur 11193


Re 4/4 II 30/12/2012

Martin Baumann
 

11159 1707 Bern-Olten (3235, diverted via Aarburg)
11159 1806 Olten-Bern (3236)

Unidentified Re 4/4 II and EWII pushpull set worked 1900 Zurich HB-Basel due to a missing ICE

421 379 EC 192

Martin Baumann


420 224

Martin Baumann
 

Re 4/4 II LION 420 224 worked 1989 1913 Basel-Zurich HB tonight (conventional coaches)

Martin Bauman


BLS 420 503

Martin Baumann
 

420 503 worked 3322, 1057 Luzern-Bern today. BLS must be short of coaches as the train only had 5 EW III (Bt 993 B 003 A 022 A 024 AD 004) A022 was labled "reserved for second class groups"

Martin Baumann


Re: MGB Zermatt line

Andy McMillan <andytrainman@...>
 

Hello Markus,

Restaurant Neubrück which was taken
away by the flood of the Breiterbach on Sunday, 15th October 2000,
together with another building of the hamlet. Unfortunately there
were
two fatalities.
A sad tale, but one we are not entirely unfamiliar with in the UK.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynmouth_Flood )

I suspect the 'neubrücke' is the new road bridge behind the
original...
As pointed out correctly by Gordon, Neubrück is the name of the
hamlet,
not of a bridge. From what I know, the new bridge is also called
Ritibrücke, but more precisely "Neue Ritibrücke", while the old one
is
the "Alte Ritibrücke". Riti is the name of the hamlet on the other
side
of the Vispa.
So 'Neubrück' does not mean 'new bridge'? Pull the other one! I bet
it did once-upon-a-time: during the 15th C. perhaps? Presumably, as
also happens here in England, 'Ritibrück' is what the Neubrückians
called the bridge which led to there, while Ritians probably called it
'Neubrück', as from their side it led to Neubrück. I suspect the
map-makers heard both names but there were probably more people living
in Neubrück at the time, so that was the name which got put on the
map. Google-Earth viewers, of course, tend to choose the nearest name
on any map when referring to an image they wish to record, so the
confusion is understandable!

WRT my other question, perhaps the repairs made necessary to the old
bridge by the flood were such that the 'look' of the bridge was
compromised, so that it had to be painted to disguise the new strength
works. Possibly it was once painted white, (or rendered in
whitewash), which has long since worn off? If so, might not the
recent re-painting date from the spring following the flood? Of
course, if anyone knows for sure, then do please let us know!

regards, Andy McMillan


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Re: MGB Zermatt line

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 28.12.2012 20:51, schrieb Guerbetaler:
The building in question was the Restaurant Neubrück which was taken
away by the flood of the Beiterbach on Sunday, 15th October 2000,
Sorry, there is an r missing. Should read Breiterbach. Breit means wide.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: MGB Zermatt line

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 28.12.2012 11:10, schrieb Andy McMillan:
Am 27.12.2012 00:34, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
I believe the correct name of this bridge is the Ritibruecke,
located in the hamlet of Neubrueck
I suspect the 'neubrücke' is the new road bridge behind the
original...
As pointed out correctly by Gordon, Neubrück is the name of the hamlet, not of a bridge. From what I know, the new bridge is also called Ritibrücke, but more precisely "Neue Ritibrücke", while the old one is the "Alte Ritibrücke". Riti is the name of the hamlet on the other side of the Vispa.
<http://map.geo.admin.ch/?crosshair=bowl&Y=633622.5&X=122308.75&zoom=8&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&lang=de>

More interesting to would-be modellers, perhaps, are the following two
questions: what year did that house disappear behind the bridge,
(beside the small barn/store above the road, behind the chapel); and
what year was the Ritibrücke rendered and painted white?
The building in question was the Restaurant Neubrück which was taken away by the flood of the Beiterbach on Sunday, 15th October 2000, together with another building of the hamlet. Unfortunately there were two fatalities.

<http://www.vs.ch/Press/DS_4/INFO-2007-09-07-12653/Data/15.10.2000%20-%20Neubr%C3%BCck_1.jpg>

Now you see it/stone:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22097570@N05/8310112470/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Now you don't/rendered:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronile/5740745704/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Markus, Gürbetal


Re: MGB Zermatt line

Andy McMillan <andytrainman@...>
 

Am 27.12.2012 00:34, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
I believe the correct name of this bridge is the Ritibruecke,
located
in the hamlet of Neubrueck
I suspect the 'neubrücke' is the new road bridge behind the
original...

More interesting to would-be modellers, perhaps, are the following two
questions: what year did that house disappear behind the bridge,
(beside the small barn/store above the road, behind the chapel); and
what year was the Ritibrücke rendered and painted white?

Now you see it/stone:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22097570@N05/8310112470/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Now you don't/rendered:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronile/5740745704/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Season's greets and all that, Andy McMillan


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Re: MGB Zermatt line

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 27.12.2012 00:34, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
I believe the correct name of this bridge is the Ritibruecke, located
in the hamlet of Neubrueck
Yes, of course you are right. I didn't reread the question (that asked for the bridge, not the hamlet) before answering, sorry.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: MGB Zermatt line

stephenhorobin
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Wiseman <gordonwis@...> wrote:

I disagree, sorry Markus!
 
I recently researched this bridge for a Zermatt line article in the next (probably) edition of Today's Railways Europe magazine  (unashamed plug!)
 
I believe the correct name of this bridge is the Ritibruecke, located in the hamlet of Neubruck. If anything the 'Neu Bruck' is the newer bridge nearby
 
Sources:
 
http://www.stalden.ch/bruecken/
 
http://www.bahngalerie.de/bahn/bvzggb/w152922.htm
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/63504826
 
Thank You Gordon

Having looked at the links I think I'll go with the Ritibruecke.

Steve.


Re: MGB Zermatt line

stephenhorobin
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Wiseman <gordonwis@...> wrote:

I disagree, sorry Markus!
 
I recently researched this bridge for a Zermatt line article in the next (probably) edition of Today's Railways Europe magazine  (unashamed plug!)
 
I believe the correct name of this bridge is the Ritibruecke, located in the hamlet of Neubruck. If anything the 'Neu Bruck' is the newer bridge nearby
 
Sources:
 
http://www.stalden.ch/bruecken/
 
http://www.bahngalerie.de/bahn/bvzggb/w152922.htm
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/63504826
 
Surley the old bridge was once new/neu.

Steve,


Re: New file uploaded to SwissRail

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Re: MGB Zermatt line

gordonwis
 

I disagree, sorry Markus!

I recently researched this bridge for a Zermatt linearticle in the next (probably)edition ofToday's Railways Europe magazine (unashamed plug!)

I believe the correct name of this bridge is the Ritibruecke, located in the hamlet of Neubruck.If anything the 'Neu Bruck' is the newer bridge nearby

Sources:

http://www.stalden.ch/bruecken/

http://www.bahngalerie.de/bahn/bvzggb/w152922.htm
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/63504826


Re: MGB Zermatt line

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 26.12.2012 10:05, schrieb stephen:
Does anyone know the name of the ancient bridge which the railway
line passes under shortly after heading south having left the urban
area of Visp?

I think it may be called the Neubrueck but I have been known to get
things wrong!
You are absolutely correct, that's Neubr�ck (belonging to Stalden VS)

Markus, G�rbetal


New file uploaded to SwissRail

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MGB Zermatt line

stephenhorobin
 

Hello,

Does anyone know the name of the ancient bridge which the railway line passes under shortly after heading south having left the urban area of Visp?

I think it may be called the Neubrueck but I have been known to get things wrong!

A picture here. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22097570@N05/8310112470/in/photostream

With Thanks;

steve.

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