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BLS Re4 on Delemont/CJ line

yatton123
 

There's a service which arrives and then runs around mid morning at Muttenz.It is AAEC wagons with I think 5 Awilog skips per wagon carrying hazardous waste. I've been told it starts near Bonfol. Can anyone confirm this and/or know the destination.I assume it's the only BLS freight working in that area.


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

Guerbetaler
 

Am 31.01.2013 00:45, schrieb bs177@ggbooks.plus.com:
An answer in the UK has been a series of hard hitting radio and TV
adverts to try and impress on motorists (and pedestrians) the dangers
associated with level crossings.
There is still one other method...
<http://stevethings.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/level-crossing.jpg?w=450&h=310>

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

bs177@...
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Guerbetaler wrote:

But does it make sense to invest to improve an already very high safety
level, when we know that every month at least one (motorist) person is
killed in a level crossing accident?

Can we allow road traffic to continue if we look at its safety record?

Just my twopence

Markus, Gürbetal
Markus,

Further to last, in the UK since 2000 32 train passengers have been sadly killed in five accidents. 20 of those (2 incidents) were due to the intervention of road vehicles.

Between 2002/3 and 2011/2, 23 motorists, and 75 pedestrians have been killed on level crossings. The numbers seem to have fallen since 2009 which is roughly when the hard hitting adverts started which may be a lesson for SBB.

Cheers

Bruce


SBB ZB crossing crash

gordonwis
 

Unfortunatley the 'ether' mucked up the link which worked perfectly well on my machine when I dispatched it. 
 
Try this one and I hope  the various 'systems' at work don't garm this one up as well.  
 
 
http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zentralschweiz/story/Zug-prallt-in-VW-Bus---ein-Toter-10116688


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

bs177@...
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Guerbetaler wrote:

But does it make sense to invest to improve an already very high safety
level, when we know that every month at least one (motorist) person is
killed in a level crossing accident?

Can we allow road traffic to continue if we look at its safety record?

Just my twopence

Markus, Gürbetal
Markus,

There has been a rising trend in the UK of accidents on level crossings.

I am sure that people more qualified than I have been looking to see why, but I am sure that distractions caused by phones, MP3's, in-car entertainment, passengers and an increasing tendency to block out what is outside must be contributory factors.

An answer in the UK has been a series of hard hitting radio and TV adverts to try and impress on motorists (and pedestrians) the dangers associated with level crossings. They even went to the extent of staging crashes with radio controlled locos and filming the collisions. The problem nowadays is that everyone is in a hurry and their minds are elsewhere.

We have few and declining ungated crossings, most are half barrier or full barriers and farm crossings have user controlled gates, many with phones linked to the local signal box.

As travelling upon the railways becomes safer, so external factors come to the fore.

Cheers

bruce


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 30.01.2013 22:53, schrieb bs177@ggbooks.plus.com:
Thank you Ilya, yet another accident caused by a car!
Due to continued safety deficits the Swiss Government has decided to close all roads and stop road traffic. ...

Sorry wrong date, not yet April 1st.
But we should think about it!

After the recent Neuhausen crash, ugly looking it was, but no fatalities, there was a long debate if SBB is investing enough in safety. We remember the fact that the last passenger killed in a SBB train was in Oerlikon in 2003, nearly 10 years ago.

But does it make sense to invest to improve an already very high safety level, when we know that every month at least one (motorist) person is killed in a level crossing accident?

Can we allow road traffic to continue if we look at its safety record?

Just my twopence

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

bs177@...
 

Thank you Ilya, yet another accident caused by a car!

--
"So we became aspirational and set out to offer consistent quality -
with quality defined as our customers saw it rather than on any railway
oriented measure" - John Prideaux, MD British Rail InterCity 1986-91,
on achieving profitability (Modern Railways October 2012)
If Markus will allow me to digress a little - I worked for JDCA Prideaux twice in my railway career - a gentleman if ever there was one and also a railway author on Narrow Gauge subjects.

Cheers

bruce


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

Illya Vaes
 

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zentralschwe…-Toter-10116688
Would you be able, perhaps, to deliver full links that work?
<http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zentralschweiz/story/10116688>

--
"So we became aspirational and set out to offer consistent quality -
with quality defined as our customers saw it rather than on any railway
oriented measure" - John Prideaux, MD British Rail InterCity 1986-91,
on achieving profitability (Modern Railways October 2012)


Re: Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.01.2013 11:46, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:

Engelberg line fatal crash

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zentralschwe…-Toter-10116688
Would you be able, perhaps, to deliver full links that work?

(your internet doctor recommends to test each link before sending. Using an e-mail program you save the mail as draft, then you can click the link in the preview. If o.k., reopen and send. If not o.k., you have the opportunity to correct.)


Engelberg line fatal crash 29/1

gordonwis
 

Engelberg line fatal crash
 
http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/zentralschwe…-Toter-10116688

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Re: BLS loco workings 26/1

gordonwis
 

I'm going to guess that this is actually a hockey related special and
not football, since it is not really football season and Ambri-Piotta
is home to one of Switzerland's most popular hockey teams.

Well thought through!
 
As soon as I saw this something bugged me about it but I couldn't put my finger on it. I was thinking what major football would be taking place in a small valley in the mountains.
 
Just leaves me to clarify that it is Ice Hockey


Re: New JB Rotary Snowplough

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 27.01.2013 18:03, schrieb George Raymond:
A beautiful monster for just 2 km of open-air line! Is this one of the
reasons for the Jungfraubahn's high-priced tickets?
The other way round: Thanks to high ticket prices they are able to buy such an expensive monster.

Who is the manufacturer?
Stadler/Zaugg (two independent companies having the same owner)
http://www.jungfrau.ch/unternehmen/bauten-projekte/aktuelle-projekte/schneeschleuder-jungfraubahn/

Are they able to control costs by using the same
design for snowplows on a number of meter-gauge lines?
There is nothing like the Jungfraubahn except the Gornergratbahn. And almost all other railways buy diesel powered rotaries.

WAB has a dc electric one on 800 mm gauge but not self-propelled
<http://www.zaugg-ag.ch/pressemitteilungen_2.php>

I think the new RhB rotaries have similar rotary equipment (the parts that rotate).

Markus, G�rbetal


11609

glenn allen
 

Spotted at Sargans early  this afternoon.Still has its nameplates


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Re: BLS loco workings 26/1

csipromo
 

I'm going to guess that this is actually a hockey related special and not football, since it is not really football season and Ambri-Piotta is home to one of Switzerland's most popular hockey teams.

Regards

Mike C


Re: New JB Rotary Snowplough

George Raymond
 

The Jungfraubahn has a new rotary snowplough, and it's double ended!
See picture from Markus Gmuer:
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=422640&nseq=2
A beautiful monster for just 2 km of open-air line! Is this one of the
reasons for the Jungfraubahn's high-priced tickets?

Who is the manufacturer? Are they able to control costs by using the same
design for snowplows on a number of meter-gauge lines?

George


New JB Rotary Snowplough

Don Newing
 

The Jungfraubahn has a new rotary snowplough, and it's double ended!

See picture from Markus Gmuer:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=422640&nseq=2


BLS loco workings 26/1

martinbaumann112 <martinbaumann112@...>
 

420 501 plus EW III working 6080.01 as the EW I set that normally works this train is being used for a football special from Bern to Ambri. The set has been increased to 10 coaches and is being worked by Re 4/4 191

(Ambri station has been closed to regular traffic since 1994)

Martin Baumann 26.01.2013


Re: Re 421 to go on long term lease to TXL in Germany

bs177@...
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "csipromo" wrote:

I personally find it very sad that a dozen of the most recent
Re 4/4II are being leased to a German operator instead of being
used for pulling SBB trains between Zurich and Stuttgart and other
trains into Germany.

I guess that times change and the railway world has changed since the 482's were ordered in 2000. SBB might as well make money from the competition and remember, they have been taking work in DE and IT for a decade or so.

With this new development, where are they likely to be working? Totally in Germany, from Germany into Basel, or from Germany to the Italian Border?

Cheers

Bruce


Re: Re 421 to go on long term lease to TXL in Germany

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 23.01.2013 08:50, schrieb Andrew Moglestue:
Up to 12 locos for a period of 5 years.
This is surprising. Wasn't SBBC very careful that no Ae6/6 should be
bought by any of its competitors, hence loaning machines to
preservation groups and museum rather than selling or donating them.
There was a time when SBB thought, they were the only company in the world owning locomotives that can pull freight trains through the Alps. Meanwhile, this thought has proven wrong...

Yet now they are leasing locos to competitors and actively supporting
them.
SBBC has been leasing locomotives to competitors for years already. At one point they found out that it is better to get money for unused locomotives rather than leaving the field to locomotive rental firms.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Re 421 to go on long term lease to TXL in Germany

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 23.01.2013 05:15, schrieb csipromo:
I personally find it very sad that a dozen of the most recent Re
4/4II are being leased to a German operator instead of being used for
pulling SBB trains between Zurich and Stuttgart and other trains into
Germany.
If you pull a train out of Z�rich you will end up in Konstanz, unless you put a locomotive to the other end of the train in Singen...

So this would require a push-pull operation but there are no matching driving trailers.

And then, the trains into Stuttgart are DB trains on German territory, not SBB trains. Why should DB want to hire SBB locomotives if they have enough on their own?

After all, I'm glad these locomotives can be leased to TXL instead of standing around, rusting away, .... :-(

Markus, G�rbetal

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