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Trains magazine DFB article

Bill Weber
 

According to Trains Editor, the magazine should be available in the UK next
week. This is a link to a video made during his visit.

<http://trn.trains.com/en/Interactive/Web%20Exclusives/2013/03/Riding%20the%20Furka%20Pass%20railroad.aspx>


Bill Weber

USA


Interruptions

OL.Guerbetal
 

On 29 March about 2200 h a rockfall interrupted Chur-Arosa line and it is still closed. Allegra 3501 is blocked in Arosa, some other Allegras may now appear on the Filisur webcam. Buses replace the Chur - Arosa trains.

And just as a reminder that Klosters - Davos Glaris is closed for engineering work at different places 02.04.2013-28.06.2013.

Thursday 4 April early morning a rockfall damaged the catenary of the WAB line Lauterbrunnen - Wengen. All traffic to and from Wengen had te be rerouted via Grindelwald. In the afternoon trains were back.

And on Sunday evening Appenzeller Bahnen will close Gossau - Waldstatt until 27 April for engineering works.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 05.04.2013 03:04, schrieb csipromo:
Does anybody have a list of these trains that were run on contract?
Sorry, no. BLSC doesn't publish its contracts. It's only possible to find out which RU is responsible for a train but not the background and subcontractors etc.


Re: Dampfbahn Fukra article in May Trains magazine

Max Wyss
 

Thanks for the tip Bill! Anyone know how to obtain a copy of this magazine here in the UK? Chris
FWIW, there is an iPad version of the magazine, costing approimately
the same as the individul issue.

Max Wyss.


Re: Dampfbahn Fukra article in May Trains magazine

George Raymond
 

Thanks for the tip Bill! Anyone know how to obtain a copy of this
magazine here in the UK? Chris
If you can wait a bit, I suspect the simplest is to order online directly
from the publisher in the US. They have many European customers.

George


Re: Dampfbahn Fukra article in May Trains magazine

yatton123
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Christopher Rosindale <cmrosindale@...> wrote:

Thanks for the tip Bill! Anyone know how to obtain a copy of this
magazine here in the UK? Chris
Try your local W H Smiths


Re: Dampfbahn Fukra article in May Trains magazine

Christopher
 

Thanks for the tip Bill! Anyone know how to obtain a copy of this magazine here in the UK? Chris


Car and tram in collision in Zurich

talltim10
 

A friend posted a pics of a derailed tram in Zurich this morning, http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8254/8621951728_f98f42002e_o.jpg
A quick google revealed a couple of news stories including http://www.suedostschweiz.ch/boulevard/kollision-zwischen-auto-und-tram-im-kanton-zuerich

Tim David


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

csipromo
 

Will the switch from BLS Cargo to SBB Cargo also affect services like the Hangartner, Ambroggio container shuttles or will those remain with BLS Cargo?

I am pretty sure that both of the above are hauled by DB Schenker in Germany, but were hauled by BLSC from Basel to Domodossola.

Does anybody have a list of these trains that were run on contract?

Regards

Mike C


Re: BAM question

gordonwis
 

I recall a reference to the loco hauled service working in early 2011, but I think it was train 107 rather than train 105. Train 107 is currently the 07.12 Mon - Fri only Biere - Morges


BAM question

Martin Baumann
 

Is BAM train 105, 0654 Biere-Morges still loco hauled? I had loco 21 on this turn in 2009 but have not been back to the line since and have not heard anything recent about them still having a hauled turn.

Martin Baumann


Re: Re 6/6 11622

Mark Pichowicz
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "jlovda" <jlovda@...> wrote:

Has this locomotive been sitting in the "locomotive junkyard" at the
north end of the Bellinzona depot?
It was certainly there in October 2012, here is a picture from when I visited then:

<http://www.flickr.com/photos/bantam61668/8067752730/in/set-72157632447519191>

Cheers,
Mark


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 03.04.2013 22:38, schrieb csipromo:
There is some connection between Crossrail and BLS because of the
fact that some aspects of Crossrail were formerly EBT/SMB/VHB/RM.
Well, in fact the brand Crossrail was invented by RM. But it was a condition of the BLS/RM-merger that Crossrail was sold by RM before the merger. This is why the five Re 436 went directly to Crossrail and have never been BLS-owned.

But the business was still "moving". Owners changed, operation focus changed. Finally they landed in the hands of Dillen-Le Jeune of which Jeroen Le Jeune is "the man" and is member of the board of directors.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 03.04.2013 22:28, schrieb csipromo:
The DB Schenker (then Railion) deal with BLS Cargo (BLSC) called for
BLS crews to operate DB loks (BR 185 with CH Packet)
If you want to write it in German, you have to omit the c: CH-Paket
(sorry for the rant...) ;-)

1) Will SBBC drivers simply replace the BLSC operators in the DB loks
used in Switzerland?
It seems so as SBBC spoke of surplus drivers in Ticino that now could take over these workings.

3) What will the implication of this be for SBB Cargo International?
We all wait impatiently for this answer!!

I think that it is possible that we might eventually see some kind of
closer cooperation/union of BLSC with Crossrail or perhaps with SNCF
Cargo, which might give them more traffic from Basel and from
Vallorbe to the south or even other private operators.
BLSC doesn't need to increase the turnover, they need to increase the margin! (as SBBC would...)

If BLSC wants to survive as RU (railway undertaking = EVU Eisenbahn-Verkehrsunternehmen) they must go in the direction of Crossrail, but as a competitor of Crossrail. This means that they have to cooperate with the logistic sector, with combined traffic operators or with big shippers directly. The other option would be to specialize in staff hiring and locomotive leasing for the Swiss part of the itinerary. But that's not really an RU.

Markus, G�rbetal
(just my 2 pence)


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

csipromo
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "jlovda" <jlovda@...> wrote:

This entire cargo arrangement really confuses me. I talked my way
into the BLS Spiez depot two years ago and there was a CrossRail
TRAXX locomotive being worked on. Where is the competition?
There is some connection between Crossrail and BLS because of the fact that some aspects of Crossrail were formerly EBT/SMB/VHB/RM. These connections resulted in Crossrail loks (185) being maintained by the BLS in Spiez where the BLS maintained their own Re 485 loks.
I do not know where maintenance on the Re 436 occurred. Simple maintenance and repainting might have occurred at Spiez, but major overhauls were likely moved to Bellinzona at some point.
Since Crossrail and BLS are two separate companies, Crossrail pays BLS for the maintenance service in Spiez and pays SBB for services in Bellinzona. So, maintaining other companies loks provides an additional source of revenue.
BLS used to do some maintenance for other private companies. I remember seeing some BT coaches in Bönigen (Interlaken) in 1985. I think that they were to be repainted in the new BT colours from the old beige over green.
Back to BLS in Spiez, there may have also been some cooperation between BLS and Bombardier where Bombardier may have provided services through the BLS facility in Spiez. That would also have generated revenue for BLS.

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

csipromo
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Moglestue <amogles@...> wrote:

will this have any effect on BLS cargo locomotives?
could it mean that some brown Re4/4s will be withdrawn?
The DB Schenker (then Railion) deal with BLS Cargo (BLSC) called for BLS crews to operate DB loks (BR 185 with CH Packet) between Basel and Chiasso and Basel and Domodossola. Some trains may have been run with BLS traction instead of DB loks.

This would have been independent of contracts directly secured by BLSC for the forwarding of goods, such as the operation of RAlpin ROLA trains on the Loetschberg-Simplon axis.

What I could not determine from the Press releases about the new DB Schenker- SBB Cargo deal is how this will affect ongoing operations.

1) Will SBBC drivers simply replace the BLSC operators in the DB loks used in Switzerland?
2) Will SBBC Loks take over the trains at Basel/Singen/etc for the run to Chiasso/Domodossola (420/430/482/620) and beyond (474/484)?
3) What will the implication of this be for SBB Cargo International? Will SBBC still operate independently or will traffic be preferentially routed to DB Schenker affiliates in other countries?

As far as BLSC, the 485/486 have been capable of running into Germany and as far south as Chiasso or Domodossola. The 486 are additionally capable or running in Italy. BLSC entered into an agreement with Nordcargo in Italy where NC would operate the BLSC Loks south of Chiasso/Domodossola/Novara. BLSC has not been as competitive as SBBCI, Crossrail or other operators in terms of contracting direct runs.

Many observers had predicted an eventual takeover of BLSC by DB Schenker or other operator. I think that it is possible that we might eventually see some kind of closer cooperation/union of BLSC with Crossrail or perhaps with SNCF Cargo, which might give them more traffic from Basel and from Vallorbe to the south or even other private operators.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Re450 workings

Jonathan Lee
 

Guys

Many thanks for your responses, they're most helpful. I'm actually staying out in Neuhausen rather than in Zurich (mainly due to hotel costs being way too high during my stay for Zurich) so wondered what worked what Re450 wise to at least get some in when I have to do locals, that aren't Re420s of course.

Cheers

Jonathan (Shovell)


Re: One less green Re 6/6

Martin Baumann
 

Despite being due an R3 overhaul 11663 was given an R2 (Bellinzona 26.03.13) This will mean the loco will remain green for the forseeable future.

SBB Cargo may be trying to cut back on R3 overhauls as 11605 for instance was due an R3 last year but only had an R2


Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

Andrew Moglestue
 

will this have any effect on BLS cargo locomotives?
could it mean that some brown Re4/4s will be withdrawn?

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Re: SBB Cargo to replace BLS Cargo as partner with DB Schenker for Transalpine Cargo

johnfbeaulieu <beaulieu@...>
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Guerbetaler wrote:


If there is anybody out there, who can explain me how SBBC could do
this, I will be very glad to hear his explanation ...

Markus, Gürbetal
(still with some additional nasty questions in the backhand...)
There are also these two web news stories out;

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/freight/disruptions-and-strong-franc-stall-bls-cargo-growth.html?channel=527

and more particularly;

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/freight/swiss-transalpine-freight-operations-face-shakeup.html?channel=527

Especially this sentence,

"BLS Cargo and DB Schenker are now in talks over the future shape of their partnership."

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