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Te 2/3 31 (was Re: June Month End celebrations)

Martin Baumann
 

The renumbering was confirmed by Swiss Enthusiast Patrick Rudin. It is reportedly also in the Geramond book "Die Triebfahrzeuge der BLS-Lötschbergbahn" which I have not perosnally seen.


RBe 540 workings 16.06.2013 (correction)

Martin Baumann
 

I apologise the RBe 540 will be out on SUNDAY 16th JUNE not tomorrow.

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16.06.2013

2018 0957 Zürich HB-Bern

2023 1139 Bern-Zürich HB

empty to Göschenen

30188 1647 Göschenen-Zürich HB

2040 1957 Zürich HB-Bern

3245 2207 Bern-Olten

1947 2303 Olten-Zürich HB


Re: North east Switzerland

gordonwis
 

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An obvious way from Winterthur to Karlsruhe is via Kreuzlingen. Nowadays the through DB service over the legendary scenic Schwarzwaldbahn to Karlsruhe starts across the river in Switzerland, so it would be easy to spot as it will be the big double decker DB train in Kreuzlingen station!

Here is one of the sets I photted last year on a circular day trip to Karlsruhe from France

http://gwizz.zenfolio.com/p637854841/h200736f#h200736f

Here is the list of trains:

http://www.reisezuege.ch/reisezuege/index.php?action=9&tfah_id=218

Regarding other lines, it is worth remembering that Erzinegn- Schaffhausen is closed for rebuild so you can't complete the whole journey Basel - Schaffhausen by train on the German side.


Re: North east Switzerland

Max Wyss
 


Is the lander ticket valid though out of Schaffhausen? Or, say for example
you were heading up to Stuttgart, would you need to get a ticket from
Schaffhausen to Singen?
Here is the direct link to the Baden-Württemberg LänderTicket (all pages in
German):
http://www.bahn.de/regional/view/regionen/bawue/freizeit/bawue_ticket.shtml?dbkanal_007=L01_S01_D001_KIN0014_lt-bawue_LZ01


It has subsequent links to the list of operators as well as to a route map.

It is valid on SBB/Thurbo between Lottstetten and Schaffhausen (which
includes Neuhausen am Rheinfall). That means, as it is possible to book the
LänderTicket online, and have it as electronic ticket, all you would need
if you come from Winterthur with a ZVV pass, is a connection ticket from
Dachsen to Neuhausen am Rheinfall. The LänderTicket is valid from 09:00
until 03:00 on the following day. It also includes urban transportation
(see list of operators), and it has a heavy discount for additional persons
travelling together.

A note to Paul: another scenic route is the Donau valley line from
Tuttlingen to Ulm (unfortunately not that frequent operation; some planning
would be necessary).

Hope this can help.

Max.


Re: North east Switzerland

Keith <keith47424@...>
 

Is the lander ticket valid though out of Schaffhausen? Or, say for example you were heading up to Stuttgart, would you need to get a ticket from Schaffhausen to Singen?
Regards Keith47424


lickeybanker

Paul Nicholson
 

I'm having a problem replying to the message on list but I want to complement Don for the magnificent photography; among the best transport pictures I've ever seen. And we have some pretty good transport photographers in Australia!

Excellent!

Paul in Australia


Re: North east Switzerland

Paul Nicholson
 

Thanks Max; most appreciated.

I hadn't picked up on the Schwarzwaldbahn but was thinking of going to Karlsruhe via Eutingen and Freudenstadt. Last time in 2009, I arrived in Karlaruhe via Stuttgart and Eutingen.

Paul in Australia


Re: Loco-hauled Gotthard EC services

gordonwis
 

Have a hunt around for train formations on Reisezuege.ch

train 114 = 

http://www.reisezuege.ch/reisezuege/index.php?action=5&znummer=114


Re: Te 2/3 31 (was Re: June Month End celebrations)

gordonwis
 

31 is in fact 31 II ex 32 It was renumbered to 31 II in 1995 when
the original was withdrawn
Interesting extra info, Martin thanks though I can't see that reflected on the locomotive, and all the blurb simply refers to Te2/3 31

(personal ps  - still investigating your Aberdeen query)


Re: Olten-Bern-Olten RE services - May observations

gordonwis
 

thanks Markus. That explains a lot, including why I am used to seeing push pull oldie sets (UK English) (consist = US English) stabled at Olten. However it still seems odd that Don stumbled across more than one 'emergency replacement' in quick succession. 

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Re: North east Switzerland

Max Wyss
 


(2) leaving Winterthur my plan is to head for Singen and make my way to
Karlsruhe by local trains. I would have a German day ticket (or purchase
one); what would be the appropriate ticket to get from Winterthur to (the
end of Swiss/start of German validity).
I guess for Germany, you would use a Länderticket for Baden-Württemberg.
Such a ticket is available from the DB ticket vending machine in
Schaffhausen (which has to be fed with Euro (or credit card)); (I am not
quite sure whether it is available from the ticket counter, however). That
said, you would need the ticket from Winterthur to Schaffhausen. If you
have a ZVV day pass for all zones (valid for 24 hours), and it has the
needed time left, you may use it to get to the border of the ZVV, and then
get an add-on for Dachsen-Schaffhausen.

I guess you have already made the plans how to use the Länderticket, but a
rather scenic way would be to take the Schwarzwaldbahn; look at the route
map which should be in the Länderticket section on www.bahn.de .

Enjoy!

Hope this can help.

Max.


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Re: North east Switzerland

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 13.06.2013 20:40, schrieb Paul Nicholson:
(1) is is possible still to purchase point to point rail tickets
(e.g. my friend will be travelling from Baden to Winterthur and only
wants to make that particular journey on the day concerned)?
You will always get some sort of single ticket:
- if you travel within a "Tarifverbund" area, it will be a zone to zone ticket, e.g. Winterthur to Bauma would be a single 5 zone ticket, which is CHF 10.40 for adults in 2nd class.
- if you travel over the boundaries of a Tarifverbund, you get a station to station ticket of the national tarif, e.g. Winterthur to Romanshorn at CHF 20.80 for adults in 2nd class.
- if you travel over the boundaries of a Tarifverbund within the Z-Pass area, you can buy a single zone to zone ticket, e.g. Baden to Winterthur would be a single 9 zone Z-Pass A-Welle-ZVV-ticket that cost CHF 23.00 for adults in 2nd class.

I am aiming to strike a good balance between my "gunzel" interests
and my friend's general interest in travel (and who is happy to be
taken (!) on erotic and exotic transport journeys!).
The first part of your explanation in brackets rises more questions than it is ever able to answer ;-) Maybe we should learn more of your rail journeys.

And then you are speaking about "exotic" journeys, which isn't exactly what I feel on my numerous journeys through Switzerland. Maybe we should once make a journey together...

Markus, G�rbetal, not exotic (in my eyes)


Re: Loco-hauled Gotthard EC services

Heléna Moretti
 

Are there currently any timetabled loco-hauled Zurich-Milan EC services? A quick look at the SBB timetable highlights two services that are booked to take 4:11 vs. the usual 3:41 shown for most services. These are EC114 (dep. Milan 09:10) and presumably the return service EC113 (dep. Zurich 17:09). Is the extra 30mins to allow for a loco change in Chiasso?


Kind Regards,
Tim.


Hi Tim,

Yes these are booked Re4/4 II from Chiasso to Zurich along with EC153 07:47 Luzern-Milano and EC158 return (14:10 off Milano Centrale).


Te 2/3 31 (was Re: June Month End celebrations)

Martin Baumann
 

31 is in fact 31 II ex 32 It was renumbered to 31 II in 1995 when the original was withdrawn


Re: North east Switzerland

Paul Nicholson
 

Thanks for the tips; most appreciated.

I've got three days based at Winterthur and have devised a reasonably "severe" itinerary to cover the lines not previously done using the Ostwind day plus ticket.

A couple of other questions:

(1) is is possible still to purchase point to point rail tickets (e.g. my friend will be travelling from Baden to Winterthur and only wants to make that particular journey on the day concerned)?

(2) leaving Winterthur my plan is to head for Singen and make my way to Karlsruhe by local trains. I would have a German day ticket (or purchase one); what would be the appropriate ticket to get from Winterthur to (the end of Swiss/start of German validity).

Thanks again for the various tips.

I am aiming to strike a good balance between my "gunzel" interests and my friend's general interest in travel (and who is happy to be taken (!) on erotic and exotic transport journeys!).

Paul in Australia


MBC

Des Von Devon
 

MON 10JUN2013

14 104
22 105 : 3 coaches being hauled


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Re: June Month End celebrations

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 13.06.2013 11:56, schrieb Gordon:
Such a small lok will look pretty bizarre running up the main line
between Thun and Frutigen!
However, it did so every day when it was new. It was attached to a coach
and classified CFe 2/6

<http://schienenfahrzeuge.netshadow.at/db/details.php?image_id=98821>

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Your chance to own a real Swiss metre gauge coach

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 13.06.2013 13:51, schrieb Gordon:
http://www.goldenpass.ch/goldenpass_vehicules_a_vendre
B 207, 208 and 209 have been sold to TPF, only B 210 and AB 304 are still available.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Olten-Bern-Olten RE services - May observations

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 13.06.2013 11:22, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
I thought these trains were booked for Re460 and more modern coaches,
so although this was good for you, it is a worrying development in
that it means that Reisezuge.ch is not up to date, as these services
are not listed as Re4/4II with 'scratch' sets, and I tend to use
Reisezuge.ch as my guide to trains using interesting rolling stock.
Re 4/4"-push-pull consists are ready in Bern and Olten for short-term dispatching. If there is a need for a replacement or an additional consist for Bern�NBS�Olten or Bern�LBT�Brig, it is necessary to take the EW-IV-consist from Bern�Burgdorf�Olten or Bern�Biel and replace it in its original service with an Re 4/4", as EW I/II are not allowed on NBS and LBT.

Markus, G�rbetal


Loco-hauled Gotthard EC services

timngoodwin
 

Are there currently any timetabled loco-hauled Zurich-Milan EC services? A quick look at the SBB timetable highlights two services that are booked to take 4:11 vs. the usual 3:41 shown for most services. These are EC114 (dep. Milan 09:10) and presumably the return service EC113 (dep. Zurich 17:09). Is the extra 30mins to allow for a loco change in Chiasso?

Kind Regards,
Tim.

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