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ICE 79 and 78 Basel-Zurich-Basel

Martin Baumann
 

The July Eisenbahn Amateur reports that due to shortage of SBB fitted ICE sets these trains will be replaced by an Re 4/4 II hauled set probably until December. New train numbers are IC 793 and 758 passengers to and from Germany change in Basel


Ae 6/6 update 09.07.2013

Martin Baumann
 

The rumoured order to stop all Ae 6/6 at the end of last week happily proved to be untrue with 11501 and 11517 confirmed as in service today


Re: Neuchatel to loose TGV service

George Raymond
 

When you refer to "legacy" line, I presume that you are talking about the
original line ... ?

Yes.

George


Re: Neuchatel to loose TGV service

csipromo
 

Just a quick note. It should read Neuchatel to lose TGV service. Loose is used when describing your shoelaces not being tight enough.

When you refer to "legacy" line, I presume that you are talking about the original line with the famous photo curve at Wynigen?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Neuchatel to loose TGV service

George Raymond
 

From the December 2013 timetable change the (Interlaken) Bern-Paris
TGV will no longer run via Neuchatel-Pontarlier but via Olten-Basel.
This service will use POS units (4401-4419) which cannot run on the
NBS (no ETCS) and are limited to A speeds ("Reihe A") between Bern and
Olten for weight reasons so the diversion will only reduce the journey
by 15 minutes.
Having used 4410 from Neuchatel last month, I'm now confused by this post's
technical explanation.

Between Bern and Olten, the TGV will run not on the NBS, which opened in
2004 and only admits trains fitted with ETCS, but rather on the roughly
parallel legacy line. It will run slower than some trains on the legacy line
because of weight issues.

George


Re: Neuchatel to loose TGV service

john_dmj
 

On 04/07/13 10:51, martinbaumann112 wrote:

From the December 2013 timetable change the (Interlaken) Bern-Paris
TGV will no longer run via Neuchatel-Pontarlier but via Olten-Basel.
This service will use POS units (4401-4419) which cannot run on the
NBS (no ETCS) and are limited to A speeds ("Reihe A") between Bern and
Olten for weight reasons so the diversion will only reduce the journey
by 15 minutes.
Having used 4410 from Neuchatel last month, I'm now confused by this
post's technical explanation.


SBB Historic Guterverkehrsnacht (night freight) on the Gotthard

Heléna Moretti
 

When I first saw this advertised I thought gosh that's an expensive night; then I thought but it says we will be banking freight trains up the Gotthard all night using an Ae6/6 (11402). Then I thought, do I trust SBB Historic, will it be just puddling around the Erstfeld yard with a made up freight set with a quick trip up to Goschenen, but the thought of all those Re10/10 combos made me take the plunge.
 
Last night I did it, what a great night it was. Yes there were issues but none ruined the event.
 
1) The Ae6/6 11402 was poorly so they substituted 11411 "Zug", even better for me as I had never travelled with that lok.
2) The first run began at 8pm with 11337 and 11668 up front, what an experience seeing the 1,593 tonnes of freight winding its way ahead of us in the evening light, it was so long I hardly saw the loks, just glimpses way ahead of a great long snake of a train.
3) The talk was almost all german, neither host spoke any german but I was able to understand what was going on.
4) The second run commenced immediately we got back light engine from Goschenen, at 9.30pm we were already tied onto 11664 and 420.346.
5) Single line working and late running IR, ICN and EC trains cost us a 45-minute stand at Amsteg but that's what freight traffic is alll about.
6) Tea and coffee and a snack in the canteen at Erstfeld followed our long 2nd trip, we got back at 1:30am. I feared we may not get a 3rd trip.
7) We hooked up to 620.087 and 11326 but this time we banked with an Re4/4" for variety, 11162. We only set off at 3:00am despite the trip being scheduled to end at 4am but we had a rapid run and were back at 4:10am and then got a depot tour till my first train off at 5:31.
 
All told, a great experience...
 
Helena
 



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Ae 6/6 update 05.07.2013

Martin Baumann
 

There is an UNCONFIRMED report that SBB Cargo have ordered all Ae 6/6 taken out of service during calendar week 27 (which wnds on Sunday 07.07)

610 496 has not yet returned to service it is currently in Bellinzona works for a TK service ("Technische Kontrolle")


Neuchatel to loose TGV service

Martin Baumann
 

From the December 2013 timetable change the (Interlaken) Bern-Paris TGV will no longer run via Neuchatel-Pontarlier but via Olten-Basel. This service will use POS units (4401-4419) which cannot run on the NBS (no ETCS) and are limited to A speeds ("Reihe A") between Bern and Olten for weight reasons so the diversion will only reduce the journey by 15 minutes.

German reports at:

http://tinyurl.com/qb9ypjl

http://www.ice-fanforum.de/index.php?id=238370


Re: Train (Zug) numbers

reissr2001 <reiss@...>
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Keith <keith47424@...> wrote:

I take it that the Abula Krok is still running as EXT2131 08.55 Landquart - St Moritz on the Sunday?
Correct

Also any idea of the headcode for 353 which did 10.20 Samedan - Scuol Tarasp special on the same day?
The headcode for the 10.20 Samedan - Scuol was 2936. In the early afternoon 353 went back to Samedan with 2939

Regards
Reinhard


Re: One less green Re 6/6

Martin Baumann
 

11663 is currently paired with 11309, both green. They worked freight 60486 through Wettingen today


Train (Zug) numbers

Keith <keith47424@...>
 

I like to keep it my records up to date and I have a couple of Zug numbers missing from last Sunday 30.06.13 and I am hoping someone may be able to help?

I take it that the Abula Krok is still running as EXT2131 08.55 Landquart - St Moritz on the Sunday?
Also any idea of the headcode for 353 which did 10.20 Samedan - Scuol Tarasp special on the same day?

Cheers Keith47424.


Update on incidents in May

Martin Baumann
 

The TMR unit damaged in the collision with 11628 in Martigny was 527 511 (17.05)



The BLS loco that rescued failed ICE 277 near Thun the day before was 843 502



(SER 7/2013)


Re: Thomas Cook European timetable to cease publication

Martin Baumann
 


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Martin Baumann
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "martinbaumann112" <martin98baumann@...> wrote:
. I believe this loco is still dumped at Fluelen station

It certainly was on 12 October last year:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40826712@N00/8063801322


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Martin Baumann
 

I think the orange loco on the picture that started the thread is actually Ruston 497743 I missed the footnote in I.L.O.S saying that St Triphon Refinery 1 was renumbered to 4 II in 1994

They got four locos new in 1963. Ruston 497743 to 499746:

1 renumbered 4 II 1994 stopped 2004 scrapped 2006
2 scrapped 1994
3 stopped 2004 scrapped 2006
4 1995 to Rive Blue Bouveret, 1998 to Arnold Fluelen. I beleive this loco is still dumped at Fluelen station

The Bahnarchiv.net page has the wrong works number on the page mentioned by Stefan.

(Ruston info from the late Richard Bowen's excellent lists)


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Stefan Unholz
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "martinbaumann112" <martin98baumann@...> wrote:

By enlarging the picture you can make out a RUSTON plate on the end of the loco but I
could not definitely id it as one of the ones in "Industrial Locomotives of Switzerland".
It could be this one since a) Ruston industrial locos were very scarce in Switzerland and b) it did operate in Western Switzerland at that time:

<http://www.sgeg.ch/index.php?id=67&filename=ruston_497744.xml>

Regards, Stefan


Ae 6/6 update 01.07.2013

Martin Baumann
 

The number of locos in traffic increased to six today with the return of 610 496. Today 01.07:

11419 working ex RBL
11430 working in Basel area
610496 working in Central Switzerland (had been at Erstfeld Depot)
11501 working ex RBL
11513 working in Basel area
11517 working in Lausanne area


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Martin Baumann
 

By enlarging the picture you can make out a RUSTON plate on the end of the loco but I could not definitely id it as one of the ones in "Industrial Locomotives of Switzerland". None of the Rustons listed there are numbered 1


Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

talltim10
 

Can anyone identify this loco? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bevis_king/6292675956/
(Not my photo)

Tim David

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