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Re: Thomas Cook European timetable to cease publication

Martin Baumann
 


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Martin Baumann
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "martinbaumann112" <martin98baumann@...> wrote:
. I believe this loco is still dumped at Fluelen station

It certainly was on 12 October last year:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40826712@N00/8063801322


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Martin Baumann
 

I think the orange loco on the picture that started the thread is actually Ruston 497743 I missed the footnote in I.L.O.S saying that St Triphon Refinery 1 was renumbered to 4 II in 1994

They got four locos new in 1963. Ruston 497743 to 499746:

1 renumbered 4 II 1994 stopped 2004 scrapped 2006
2 scrapped 1994
3 stopped 2004 scrapped 2006
4 1995 to Rive Blue Bouveret, 1998 to Arnold Fluelen. I beleive this loco is still dumped at Fluelen station

The Bahnarchiv.net page has the wrong works number on the page mentioned by Stefan.

(Ruston info from the late Richard Bowen's excellent lists)


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Stefan Unholz
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "martinbaumann112" <martin98baumann@...> wrote:

By enlarging the picture you can make out a RUSTON plate on the end of the loco but I
could not definitely id it as one of the ones in "Industrial Locomotives of Switzerland".
It could be this one since a) Ruston industrial locos were very scarce in Switzerland and b) it did operate in Western Switzerland at that time:

<http://www.sgeg.ch/index.php?id=67&filename=ruston_497744.xml>

Regards, Stefan


Ae 6/6 update 01.07.2013

Martin Baumann
 

The number of locos in traffic increased to six today with the return of 610 496. Today 01.07:

11419 working ex RBL
11430 working in Basel area
610496 working in Central Switzerland (had been at Erstfeld Depot)
11501 working ex RBL
11513 working in Basel area
11517 working in Lausanne area


Re: Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

Martin Baumann
 

By enlarging the picture you can make out a RUSTON plate on the end of the loco but I could not definitely id it as one of the ones in "Industrial Locomotives of Switzerland". None of the Rustons listed there are numbered 1


Mystery Swiss Diesel Switcher 1986

talltim10
 

Can anyone identify this loco? http://www.flickr.com/photos/bevis_king/6292675956/
(Not my photo)

Tim David


Re: Engadin Centenary on SRF

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 30.06.2013 12:39, schrieb Andy McMillan:
I found it a fascinating little programme - I wonder what the nickname
of #391 was after it's swim in the Inn.
There wasn't any. But this locomotive had always been a special subject, as it was the only locomotive with "foreign" gear. Only the mechanical part was SLM as on all others but electrical part was AEG of Germany. This is why the controls were different and only Samedan drivers were instructed to drive it. Therefor it is interesting that the locomotive was rebuilt in the same way. But as it seems, the AEG part of the locomotive could be reused.

391 finally ended up "back" in Germany, it is now in the Deutsches Technikmuseum Berlin
<http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:RhB_391_1.jpg>

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Thomas Cook European timetable to cease publication

Carl Fowler
 

I have received official notice from Thomas Cook of this. They are closing their entire publications divions, including maps, guidebooks and timetables. ALAS! Can we hope someone else will take over, as happened to the UK National Timetable?
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Carl H. Fowler President CHF Rail Consulting LLC dba: Rail Travel Adventures


Re: Engadin Centenary on SRF

Andy McMillan <andytrainman@...>
 

Alan wrote: ' "The Diver" actually. And it continued to run under the
same identity on the same line. ...'

You are right, it was 'The Diver' and yes, I should have looked it up.
But 224 was renumbered - to 1192 - although not until 1913, so it was
many years later; the disaster happening in 1879. Funny how the
memory plays tricks over the years, isn't it? I am sure I read
somewhere that once rebuilt, it was kept as far away from the Tay as
possible, but I can't find the reference to that in either 'Scottish
4-4-0s' or 'the High Girders'. Not that it matters on this forum, of
course.

My real point, however, was that wry humour is so often the way that
people cope with tragedy. I would doubt that the Swiss were much
different in that regard, but that's why I asked...

regards, Andy


Re: Engadin Centenary on SRF

amitchell107
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "Andy McMillan" <andytrainman@...> wrote:

Hello Don,

"SRF have produced a half-hour programme about the centenary of the
RhB Engadin line ..."

Well spotted, Don!

I found it a fascinating little programme - I wonder what the nickname
of #391 was after it's swim in the Inn. (The 4-4-0 which fell into
the Tay in the Tay bridge disaster was recovered, re-built and sent to
work on a different line under a different number - but to staff it
was always known thereafter as "The Dipper"...)
"The Diver" actually. And it continued to run under the same identity on the same line.

Alan.


Re: Engadin Centenary on SRF

Andy McMillan <andytrainman@...>
 

Hello Don,

"SRF have produced a half-hour programme about the centenary of the
RhB Engadin line ..."

Well spotted, Don!

I found it a fascinating little programme - I wonder what the nickname
of #391 was after it's swim in the Inn. (The 4-4-0 which fell into
the Tay in the Tay bridge disaster was recovered, re-built and sent to
work on a different line under a different number - but to staff it
was always known thereafter as "The Dipper"...)

The idea of a branch line from Ftan station up to Fetan Village was an
interesting one - an ideal 'modeller's might-have-been, perhaps? I
presume, (which I have to without translating every word of the
subtitles), that it would really have been a mere siding, rather than
a 'true' branch with a passenger service - but I could be wrong of
course. (I saw no plan of any sidings, loops or track at the top end,
so I presume the plans hadn't got that far before the Great War
intervened.) Or was it to have been a narrower-gauge tram-line,
perhaps? Did anyone understand that section rather better than I did?

I also noted with interest, "das alt Wärterhaus Pravuost" restored in
1994 towards the end of the programme - which I translated as 'the old
keeper's house, Pravuost': but keeper of what? The tunnel? The
'length' of track between Zuoz and Scoul? I couldn't understand that
one either. Surely if it had been merely a staff-house for a
platelayer (and it looks much too 'posh' for that), there would have
been several others along 45Km of line, so are there any more or were
platelayers (permanent-way staff) based at stations? (I assume so, as
there are large sleeping quarters at Samedan, Zernez and Scoul-T, of
course.) Interesting that the house should so resemble the station
buildings of the original line - from which plans it was obviously
taken - but it would be interesting to see photos of the sides and far
end so as to be able to spot the differences - it would hardly need a
goods shed, would it - or did they use that space for 'tools of the
trade' of a tunnel inspector?

Fascinating as these things are, the overly-slick presentation of all
these kinds of programmes always seems to leave more questions open
than it answers..

Still - that passed a very pleasant hour or so as I viewed and
re-wound, re-typed bits of the captions for translation, and tried to
make head and tail of it all (understand it all) - so thanks Don: well
done!

regards, Andy McMillan

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SBB: BLS Celebrations Frutigen 29/06/13

Keith <keith47424@...>
 

Saturday 29/06/2013
Weather atrocious. Rain all day. However after a 4am alarm call, taxi and 3 trains I made it to Burgdorf to pick up the VHE special from Hutwil - Frutigen with 31 and one coach!
On arrival at Frutigen it was a quick look around, (new Bombardier 187002 last mile diesel electric, a French Prima electric, 843502 & 843504, a couple of Kiss units, preserved loks included 307, EBT102, 273 & 312 & a couple of coaches at strange angles including a DVT on its side) get drenched and see what was working the special shuttles to Kandersteg.
They were to run every 30 minutes starting at 10.20 with 205 working the first, 251 worked the next and the preserved old unit (sorry not sure of its number) was worked in tandem with BLS 172.
There were rumours that the 11.50 special was going to be 205 & 208. 208 was working a Swiss Historic special from Basel to the event due in about 11.30. However where the shuttle tickets were being sold they said it wasn't going to work but would be put on static display. However I hung around just in case.
And sure enough it did produce. 208 & 205 together. When was the last time that happened? And a return for 5CHF. Much cheaper than the 250CHF for the special.
Not sure if anything else worked as left at 13.30.
Good to meet up with the English cranks, Des, Mr Belton, Ian, Patrick and the others.
Tomorrow RhB and hoping for better weather.

Cheers Keith47424.


Re: Trams diverted away from Basel SBB

George Raymond
 

What work is being undertaken to the tram tracks to cause such a
disruption?

A central part of the work is to replace the tram rails that exit
Aeschengraben, cross Nauenstrasse and enter the tram station in front of
Basel SBB railway station in Centralbahnplatz and vice versa. According to
the BVB press release, in the last 10 years an estimated 147 million street
vehicles and 1.44 million trams have rolled over these rails in
Nauenstrasse.

George


Re: Trams diverted away from Basel SBB

Kidger Paul
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "Simon Cuddeford &#92;(CH&#92;)" <simon.cuddeford@...> wrote:

Surprised big diversions like these haven't happen more often in the last
few years.
Simon

My sympathies for your long suffering. Projects in Switzerland in general do seem to take a long time.
What work is being undertaken to the tram tracks to cause such a disruption? I presume that it is major track renewals but I see that lines 1 & 2 will continue to run. So maybe a single line operation will be in force.

Paul Kidger


Re: 540 069

Martin Baumann
 

"csipromo" <csipromo@...> wrote:

Hopefully they will keep a whole trainset (A, AB, B, BDt) to go with it
That is the plan according to an SBB driver on BAHNFORUM


Thomas Cook European timetable to cease publication

Martin Baumann
 

www.seat61.com facebook and twitter pages, though not the website itself,

reports that it is about to cease publication with the last edition being August 2013


Re: New Swiss* ticket

Fionnbarr Kennedy
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <chris_j_wood@...> wrote:

On their Facebook page, the Swiss Travel System people are being a bit coy about a new ticket they are introducing.
My guess is it's the ability to purchase a last minute ticket on the platform. Interesting, to no great surprise looks like they are feeling the heat from the withdrawal of the facility to buy tickets on board. Hope it works for them!

Cheers all
Fionnbarr


Re: 540 069

csipromo
 

It is nice to see that at least one RBe4/4 will be kept in it's original livery and now a second will be kept in the last NPZ livery as well.
Hopefully they will keep a whole trainset (A, AB, B, BDt) to go with it

Regards

Mike C


SBB ticket changes

Keith <keith47424@...>
 

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