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Re: CJ units (was re BLS RBDe 566 I)

Martin Baumann
 

I thought the two CJ railcars had been renumbered to

BDe 577 401 and 402 ex BDe 4/4 101 and 102.

Did this not happen?


Re: Swiss track plans

Chris Wood
 

Markus wrote:


> Recently Swisstopo has added a high resolution map to its site. ... 
> The new map shows each track in stations and outside stations.

And these plans seem remarkably accurate too. Not just for railways, but for Zurich trams (whose tighter curves might be thought to be a greater challenge to the cartographer). Even the slightest siding seems to be there.

My only complaint, and it is pretty pedantic, is that the registration of track against buildings (and possibly streets) isn't quite correct. So it looks like a line goes through a building, when clearly it doesn't. 

And where the track genuinely does through a building (eg under Zurich HB's overall roof) we lose the detail. Bizarrely that is less true for tunnels, so there is more detail for Zurich's low level platforms than for its high level ones.

But those are very minor gripes. On the whole, it is a great new feature.


Re: Swiss track plans

Chris Wood
 

Gordon wrote:

> The flaw was not apparent to me. 

Worked well for me too. Many of the English language Wikipedia articles for Swiss railway stations cite geo-specific links to that web site, and even if they don't, you can get there through the coordinates link in the top left of the article page, and then select map.geo.admin.ch from the Swiss specific list of mapping services. Then just keep zooming in until you get the tracks shown.


Re: CJ units (was re BLS RBDe 566 I)

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.11.2013 20:39, schrieb Jean-Philippe Noiville:
Are you talking about Gem 4/4 401 and 402 ?
No, he meant 101 and 102

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: CJ units (was re BLS RBDe 566 I)

jpnoiville
 

Are you talking about Gem 4/4 401 and 402 ?


CJ units (was re BLS RBDe 566 I)

Martin Baumann
 

Bahnforum reports that both CJ 401 and 402 will be withdrawn as a result of the purchase of the BLS (RM) unit.  401 and 402 are not fitted with ETM equipment and would require major body repairs to remain in service


Re: Swiss track plans

gordonwis
 

Markus <> wrote:
> imagery. Unfortunately there is still a flaw and the change of maps

The flaw was not apparent to me. It worked perfectly. I did not start with the link, I just put map geo in my address bar and zoomed in from the whole country map to Lausanne


Re: Swiss track plans

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 17.11.2013 17:53, schrieb donnewing@me.com:
Unfortunately, the example that Marcus has chosen does not show the new
rail underpass that replaced the level crossing on the St Moritz line
last year!
You might be aware that updating the maps of a country has to be done in sequences. AFAIK the updates are done after new aerial imagery is available for the region.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: An Unusual Event at Lanquart Works

Richard L. Anglin
 

That’s awesome!  As are the RhB Lanquart Works.

Rick Anglin



On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:48 AM, donnewing@... wrote:



An Unusual Event at Lanquart Works

Don Newing
 

I stumbled on this:

http://www.origen.ch/Christmas-concerts.646.0.html?&L=4

don Newing


Re: Swiss track plans

Don Newing
 

Unfortunately, the example that Marcus has chosen does not show the new rail underpass that replaced the level crossing on the St Moritz line last year! But I agree it is a very useful online resource.


Don Newing



---In SwissRail@..., <SBB_BLS_Bahnen@...> wrote:

On 11/17/2013 4:30 AM, Markus wrote:
> Recently Swisstopo has added a high resolution map to its site. Until
> then, 1:25'000 was the best resolution they had, apart from the aerial
> imagery. Unfortunately there is still a flaw and the change of maps
> doesn't work unless you shortly switch to aerial imagery.
>
> The new map shows each track in stations and outside stations.
>
> http://map.geo.admin.ch/?Y=786777&X=156506&zoom=10&lang=en
Thanks, Markus. Great site.

--
Tim
Timothy A Johnson, Tucson, AZ (www.sbb-bls-bahnen.com)
European Train Enthusiasts, Central Arizona Chapter (www.ete.org)


Re: Swiss track plans

Tim Johnson
 

On 11/17/2013 4:30 AM, Markus wrote:
Recently Swisstopo has added a high resolution map to its site. Until
then, 1:25'000 was the best resolution they had, apart from the aerial
imagery. Unfortunately there is still a flaw and the change of maps
doesn't work unless you shortly switch to aerial imagery.

The new map shows each track in stations and outside stations.

http://map.geo.admin.ch/?Y=786777&X=156506&zoom=10&lang=en
Thanks, Markus. Great site.

--
Tim
Timothy A Johnson, Tucson, AZ (www.sbb-bls-bahnen.com)
European Train Enthusiasts, Central Arizona Chapter (www.ete.org)


Swiss track plans

Guerbetaler
 

Recently Swisstopo has added a high resolution map to its site. Until then, 1:25'000 was the best resolution they had, apart from the aerial imagery. Unfortunately there is still a flaw and the change of maps doesn't work unless you shortly switch to aerial imagery.

The new map shows each track in stations and outside stations.

http://map.geo.admin.ch/?Y=786777&X=156506&zoom=10&lang=en

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Another loco hauled service to end

Bill Bolton
 

On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:33:04 -0000, jlovda@yahoo.com wrote:

I believe that for the most part the SBB believes tourists come
to Switzerland for the mountains and scenery and the trains are
just a comfortable means of getting there.
For the vast majority of "tourists", that belief appears to me to be
"right on the money"!

Cheers,

Bill

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia


SBB: BLS Brownies

Adam Daniels
 

Both diagrams today for the soon to be freight only BLS 4/4s were units! A long way to go for nothing!

Adam Daniels.
Sent from my iPhone 5.


Re: Fire at Ballenberg Dampfbahn Interlaken Depot

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 16.11.2013 21:30, schrieb donnewing@me.com:
A fire early today has badly affected part of the Depot used by the
Ballenberg Dampfbahn at Interlaken Ost station. For a report in German
see http://www.jungfrauzeitung.ch/artikel/127970/ .
Reports so far say that G 3/4 208, HG 3/3 1068 and a C 5/6 were in the workshop building, where the fire broke out. Gladly HG 3/3 1067 and the three-axle coaches were in the shed where the fast intervening fire brigade could prevent any damage.

Markus, Gürbetal


Fire at Ballenberg Dampfbahn Interlaken Depot

Don Newing
 

A fire early today has badly affected part of the Depot used by the Ballenberg Dampfabhn at Interlaken Ost station. For a report in German see http://www.jungfrauzeitung.ch/artikel/127970/ .

Don Newing


SBB Zurich area yesterday (15/11)

Adam Daniels
 

On Cargo 421 turns today:
621.1 (22:36 Zurich-Basel) 421393
621.2 (18:16 Zurich-Lindau) 421392
621.3 (19:57 Singen-Zurich) 421394
621.4 (19:05 Zurich-Singen) 11299
Of these, 421392 and 421392 always seem to feature every time - apols if this has been discussed before, but is there a set pool?
And LION news:
420230 is back, looking very fresh and working with 420226 yesterday on the 1800 Schaffhausen turn.
Off to BLS land tomorrow for some final brownie action...@

Adam Daniels.
Sent from my iPhone 5.


New Timetables Now on Line

Don Newing
 

The 2014 timetables are now available for download at fahrplanfelder.ch .

Don Newing


Re: Another loco hauled service to end

Krist van Besien
 




On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:39 AM, <bs177@...> wrote:

Surely it is a case of horses for courses.  I cannot imagine that the average Swiss rail user is any different from those in France or Germany - they want to get from A to B as quickly as possible. Yes, there are parts of Switzerland where the passenger make-up is very different and those travelling for the scenery form the majority.  In general the railways of Switzerland have provided for both the external and internal market very well.  We can all mourn the loss of this or that loco or method of working but SBB is not a museum and it needs to modernise its ways of working to survive when there are so many forms of competing transport.


One should also be aware of the constraints the railways are working under.

When SBB send out the tender for new  Intercity trains they left it up to the manufacturers to offer loco hauled trains or train sets. SBB did not a priori state it had to be train sets. However the manufacturers only offered train sets.
SBB of course did ask for 200kph capable trains, and that means, amongst other things, no opening windows. SBB is also very interested in low total cost of ownership, and requires a high level of reliability. Distributed traction actually has an advantage there. Look at the Japanese railways. Surely they can't be accused of not caring about reliability. Now have a look at what runs there...


Krist

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