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Re: EW I and II coach markings

Andrew Moglestue
 

I can't help with  dates, but i do believe that not all Re540s were rebuilt. If my memory doesn't fail me there were unrefurbished green ones on the Seetal line (sporting the high visibility nose that was typical for Seetal trains). There was also an unrebuilt RBe4/4 that assured the RBL staff shuttle right up until that was replaced by a bus. It could frequently be seen on track 1 at Dietikon. These units were later scrapped at Kaiseraugst in unrebuilt condition. Sorry I can't pinpoint the dates.


Re: EW I and II coach markings

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 29.01.2014 01:17, schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
When did the last passenger rolling stock with the original SBB CFF
and SBB FFS markings finish?
IIRC even among the last green EW I there were still coaches with such inscriptions. Light steel coaches systematically kept the old markings till the end, with the exception of the ABt 900-919 for BDe 4/4.

On this page you will find a photo of 2005 with an EW I carrying the old markings:
<http://www.zettzeit.ch/EW2.html>

Did any old marked stock survive beyond the introduction of the first
rebuilt RBe540s and or run reliveried EW stock to blue and white
Many EW I went to the workshops for the rebuild program still carrying the old markins. Picking out SER 4/1992 I find more than one photo showing the old markings. In the early days of Zürcher S-Bahn there were RBe-trainsets with a mixture of green and blue and white coaches.

Markus, Gürbetal


EW I and II coach markings

gordonwis
 

Another question related to modelling which I suspect Markus will be able to answer.

When did the last passenger rolling stock with the original SBB CFF and SBB FFS markings finish?

Did any old marked stock survive beyond the introduction of the first rebuilt RBe540s and or run reliveried EW stock to blue and white

many thanks


Etzwillen-Rielasingen line

Martin Baumann
 

I have put the 2014 timetable in the files section for anyone who would like to do the line. Both steam and diesel trains are on offer. The link below is in theory a direct link to the pdf in the files:

http://tinyurl.com/p2vvxe5

Martin Baumann


Re: Montreux and Aigle in 2006.

Paul Burkhalter
 

you might also be interested in these cab ride videos from August 2006 on all three lines from Aigle: http://www.railvideo.co.uk/index.php?sec=39&grp=2897&ond=5043




Re 4/4 II update

Martin Baumann
 

11111 reported as now in the deadline at Bellinzona works, reason unknown, was confirmed in service on the 15th of this month.

11129 stopped, tap changer explosion

11274 expected to be withdrawn (stopped since shunting accident in Basel (03.02.2010)

11301 also reported in the Bellinzona deadline. This loco was in service on 02.01.2014

11330 (green) in the Bellinzona deadline

11338 stored at Bellinzona San Paolo yard

421 371 has been stored at Bellinzona since derailing at Zürich HB 18.09.2013



Re: Montreux and Aigle in 2006.

gordonwis
 

I've been visiting Aigle for 45+ years and had a soft spot for the traditional layout - but then I'm a traditionalist in some ways.

I took advantage of trips to Zermatt for skiing to call in in December 2005 and December 2006, and specifically visited as part of one of my annual Easter chalet holidays in April 2006, so I created an album showing the progress over that time.

As you can see, the work was done start to finish in almost exactly one calendar year.

http://gwizz.piwigo.com/index?/category/145-tpc_aigle_station_rebuild_2005_2006




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Re: Montreux and Aigle in 2006.

rox_842
 

Glad to have been of assistance Bill.  Ain't the Internet wonderful!


Ron.


Re: Montreux and Aigle in 2006.

Bill Bolton
 

On 24 Jan 2014 04:33:14 -0800, Ron Fisher wrote:

The were taken in 2006 and there are pictures of both standard
and narrow gauge trains.
Thanks - we were there in the later part of 2006 and the narrow gauge
station area was completely dug up in preparation for the new layout,
with trains were mostly starting their journeys from Aigle some
distance away from the station (and the AOMC not running at all).

I was puzzled about what the old layout had been, so your photos were
very helpful in putting what I saw into context.

Cheers,

Bill

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia


Montreux and Aigle in 2006.

rox_842
 

Afternoon All,


If anyone is interested to have a look, I recently added some pictures taken in Montreux and Aigle to my Flickr site.  The were taken in 2006 and there are pictures of both standard and narrow gauge trains.


This is the Link :


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/train-pix/sets/72157639347144324/


Hope that they are of interest.


Ron Fisher. 


Re: Rolling stock order for the St Gallen Durchmesserlinie

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 23.01.2014 15:13, schrieb Martin Baumann:
It was announced today that Appenzellerbahnen have order seven
vehicles based on the Tango type tram in service in Basel (BLT) and
Geneva. The Stadler press release is not completely clear but
suggests they will have 8 axles all powered. They will have 145 seats
including 12 First Class
Additionally, AB tries to sell the existing five units 31–35 to Forchbahn and to buy 5 more Tangos.

Concerning the sets 11-15/111-115 there is an interest from Achenseebahn to buy at least three trains!

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Rolling stock order for the St Gallen Durchmesserlinie

Martin Baumann
 

An artist's impression of the new vehicles plus information on the new line in German can be found at:


http://www.ab-dml.ch/Portals/8/PDF/2014_01_23_MedienorientierungPr%C3%A4sentation.pdf




Martin Baumann


Rolling stock order for the St Gallen Durchmesserlinie

Martin Baumann
 

It was announced today that Appenzellerbahnen have order seven vehicles based on the Tango type tram in service in Basel (BLT) and Geneva. The Stadler press release is not completely clear but suggests they will have 8 axles all powered. They will have 145 seats including 12 First Class


Re: No trains to Generoso Vetta

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 19.01.2014 00:39, schrieb Guerbetaler:
The timetable 2014 of MG (number 636) only contains trains Capolago to
Bellavista but none to the top.
It seems as if the company had changed its mind again, as this information, that could be found on their homepage, has gone:
<http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gfQwzcYctloJ:www.montegeneroso.ch/en/173/the-buffet-at-bellavista-station.aspx+&cd=9&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=ch>

It sounds as if there were no trains at all in 2014!
<http://www.montegeneroso.ch/en/173/the-buffet-at-bellavista-station.aspx>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: No trains to Generoso Vetta

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 22.01.2014 14:03, schrieb chris_j_wood@yahoo.com:
Oh. I only glanced at that, and thought it was a picture of the
telescope that sits by the station. If that is ideed a representation of
the new station, then it still cannot be any worse looking than what is
there now, only maybe not any better either.
I thought of this picture:
<http://www.montegeneroso.ch/en/67/default.aspx>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: No trains to Generoso Vetta

Chris Wood
 

Oh. I only glanced at that, and thought it was a picture of the telescope that sits by the station. If that is ideed a representation of the new station, then it still cannot be any worse looking than what is there now, only maybe not any better either.


Re: No trains to Generoso Vetta

Krist van Besien
 

On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Guerbetaler
<muesche2-swissrail@yahoo.de> wrote:

Obviously you haven't checked the link I gave.
Apart from a small picture of what looks like the spawn of a death
star there is nothing there informing us about what is happening up
there...

Krist




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krist@vanbesien.org
Bern, Switzerland


Re: 2nd Class in 1st Class

glenn allen
 

staff travelling on first class on South Eastern (unless they qualify for it), Central & FCC is NOT allowed, having said that......
Elsewhere it is usually done 'on the nod'  especially at weekends when there is the weekend first offer in at least one coach (about £7-£15 depending on the route)
I have also seen it done on the SBB when a railway employee asked about the cost of upgrade at it was a busy in 2nd class train, and was allowed to travel 1st for no extra.
As a former ticket inspector I have reported staff in first class, but not train crew, who are 'different' now as train crew I do not travel in 1st class except the very late night trains which are mostly empty.
I could see the SBB and BLS following through with a weekend first supplement in  designated coaches, purely as a money making scheme to fill otherwise empty seats.


Re: 2nd Class in 1st Class

Neil Walkling
 

Years ago I travelled on a South West Trains service from Bournemouth to London, which was short formed of five coaches. By the time I got to Southampton it was standing room only, where upon the guard announced over the PA to advise passengers to make use of any available seats, including first class.
Back in 2008 during a visit to Switzerland I had a free first class upgrade on my second class eight day Swiss pass, as it was October during the 'closed' season. It also entitled me to travel on the 'Golden Pass Classic Pullman' on the MOB line from Zwiessmann to Montreaux at no extra cost.

Try getting something like that in the UK.

Neil


Re: Riffelalptram

gordonwis
 

I haven't managed to ride on it since 2001, but I have found a reference to a fare being charged for non guests of CHF2 in 2008. It is free for hotel guests.
Just a reminder of a fact that I seem to remember mentioning on the group some years, namely that the tram doesn't necessarily only open in Summer.
Due to early snow melt I saw it in action in April 2011
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