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11180

Martin Baumann
 

11180 is now on a VAE set with 446 015 but is spare at Herisau today (Friday 6th)


ZVV Duchmesserlinie advert

Martin Baumann
 


Luzern-Zürich peak hour trains from June 16th

Martin Baumann
 

From June 16th there will be two return trips Monday to Friday running from Luzern to new platform 31. These will continue to be formed of Re 4/4 II and coaches. There is a so far unsubstantiated report on BAHNFORUM that these trains will have a loco on each end, both powering. They will reportedly be stabled in Wollishofen during the day but as 31 will not be used for anything else at this time one set could remain there until 1642.



The times are as follows:

3508 0620 Luzern-Zürich HB 0716

3514 0720 Luzern-Zürich HB 0816



3535 1642 Zürich HB-Luzern 1739

3537 1742 Zürich HB-Luzern 1839


Re: 11241 derailed at Rapperswil

csipromo
 

I had noticed photos of the consist of VAE/SOB Steuerwagen that were being prepared for scrapping. I was surprised that none of those coaches went to other operators (Rorschach-Heiden) or private clubs.

Regards


Mike C


A Cab Ride Inside RBL

Andrew
 

If like me, you have spent many an hour filming trains passing through Killwangen - Spreitenbach station, many of which have started from or are going into RBL, but never had the chance to have a look inside the yard itself, you may find this You Tube film to be of interest.

I happened to find it when i was looking at some KS footage on You Tube. I found it very interesting and enjoyable particularly as it was taken from the cab of a Lok or Pilot.

Andy Muff

Killwangen-RBL Ost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fgPzb0_bRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fgPzb0_bRA

Killwangen-RBL Ost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fgPzb0_bRA Shunting movement from Killwangen to RBL east at 28.06.2013

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Re: 11241 derailed at Rapperswil

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 04.06.2014 19:34, schrieb csipromo@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
Thanks for the update. Was the EWI B in the traditional SOB colours
or was it one of the few that had been painted in VAE colours?
Is there any reason to think that SOB would not make use of the reserve they have? AFAIK no other coaches are still available. A few days ago another train of coaches left the SOB to bring them near the scrapyard.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Luzern restaurants

Don Newing
 

Markus wrote:
thank you very much for this good news. I admit not being a regular
>reader of Luzerner Zeitung. It's simply impossible to read all regional
>newspapers that exist in Switzerland. And as I hadn't expected SBB to
>change its mind, I had no reason to search for such an article...

I must confess I am not a regular reader of Luzerner Zeitung myself, but in response to the reports here, I remembered having seen seen something on bahnonline.ch last month, which lead me to the article! I am also glad, as I will be staying in Luzern over the new year period and am hoping to eat there.

Don Newing


Re: 11241 derailed at Rapperswil

csipromo
 

Thanks for the update. Was the EWI B in the traditional SOB colours or was it one of the few that had been painted in VAE colours?

Regards


Mike C


Re: 11241 derailed at Rapperswil

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 03.06.2014 18:08, schrieb csipromo@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
From what I could see, there was likely some damage to the trailing
Revvivo A and the pushing loco (SOB 446) may have also damaged the
ABt (ex-NPZ) at the other end. Did the SOB put the reserve trainset
into use?
Members of Bahnforum Schweiz report that the train-set had been replaced with a FLIRT. Only Re 4/4" 11241 and B 725 have been damaged. The rest went to Herisau where an EW I B and Re 446 017 was added. Three o'clock this train-set went back to service and replaced the FLIRT. (!!)

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Luzern restaurants

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 03.06.2014 10:31, schrieb donnewing@me.com [SwissRail]:
This thread seems to have overlooked an announcement in Luzerner
Zeitung that, following public protest, that SBB has, at least in
part, gone back on its former plans. Part of the area will be used
for a new restaurant, albeit smaller than the present one.
Thank you very much for this good news. I admit not being a regular reader of Luzerner Zeitung. It's simply impossible to read all regional newspapers that exist in Switzerland. And as I hadn't expected SBB to change its mind, I had no reason to search for such an article...

Markus


Re: 11241 derailed at Rapperswil

csipromo
 

From what I could see, there was likely some damage to the trailing Revvivo A and the pushing loco (SOB 446) may have also damaged the ABt (ex-NPZ) at the other end. Did the SOB put the reserve trainset into use?


Regards


Mike C


Re: 11241 derailed at Rapperswil

Martin Baumann
 

The loco hauled set is now back in operation with 446 017 having replaced 11241, so currently no SBB-C loco in use


Re: Luzern restaurants

Don Newing
 

desvondevon wrote
No idea what is going to become of the restaurants, but I fear the worst.
This thread seems to have overlooked an announcement in Luzerner Zeitung that, following public protest, that SBB has, at least in part, gone back on its former plans. Part of the area will be used for a new restaurant, albeit smaller than the present one.

See Doch wieder ein Restaurant im Bahnhof Luzern http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/nachrichten/zentralschweiz/lu/luzern/Doch-wieder-ein-Restaurant-im-Bahnhof-Luzern;art92,358542

http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/nachrichten/zentralschweiz/lu/luzern/Doch-wieder-ein-Restaurant-im-Bahnhof-Luzern;art92,358542

Doch wieder ein Restaurant im Bahnhof Luzern http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/nachrichten/zentralschweiz/lu/luzern/Doch-wieder-ein-Restaurant-im-Bahnhof-Luzern;art92,358542 Luzern Kehrtwende der SBB nach heftiger Kritik: Statt eines Schnellimbisses soll es doch wieder ein Restaurant im Obergeschoss des Luzerner Bahnhofs...



View on www.luzernerzeitung.ch http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/nachrichten/zentralschweiz/lu/luzern/Doch-wieder-ein-Restaurant-im-Bahnhof-Luzern;art92,358542
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Don Newing


Re: Luzern restaurants

George Raymond
 

For those that are interested here is the Oxford Dictionary entry for gricer
gricer, n.
A railway enthusiast, esp. one who assiduously seeks out and photographs unusual trains; loosely, a train-spotter.
Roger
In the US, we call ourselves railfans.

US railway employees have a less flattering name for us: foamers.

George





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Re: Luzern restaurants

gordonwis
 

I disagree with the Oxford definition. Collins has a closer definition. To the best of my knowledge all the people I have been acquainted with through railways would define gricing simply as ' travelling at home or abroad to see, photograph and travel on trains' - in other words justs a shorter term for railway enthusiasts or railfan.

I found this definition in an 'urban dictionary' It comes closest to my interpretation (apart from the 'trainspotter bit' - a decent ptoportion of 'Gricers' I have known have not been trainspotters in the nerdy sense:

"A trainspotter, someone who braves rainy and windy station platforms to catch a glimpse of unusual trains. An unproved etymology holds that this word comes from a humorous pronunciation of “grouse”, making the connection between the supposed resemblance of trainspotting to grouse-shooting. The verb grice and the participle gricing are back-formations from gricer. This is from the website for Times Online and is my sense for the word as it is currently used. I would drop the word 'unusual' as a more generic definition would focus on fascination with trains as evidenced by gricing, i.e. wandering about the planet to see, ride, and photograph them."


Re: Luzern restaurants

Richard L. Anglin
 

I'm guilty ... too anxious and too fumble-fingered ... :-)

Rick

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Am 02.06.2014 22:17, schrieb 'Richard L. Anglin':
What a fabulous word! Perhaps we should have t-shirts made ... gircers.
even more fabulous and of a remarkable sound if spelled corrrectly
;-)

Gricing, wow word of the day! That's the first time I'd encountered that
work, and had to look it up. I believe the closest American expressing
would
be rail-fanning.
As I always say: on SwissRail you can learn English. It's true, I
wouldn't know this word if I wasn't a member of SwissRail. On the other
hand, I wouldn't need to know, what it means, if I wasn't a member of
SwissRail...
:-)

Markus, Gürbetal





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Re: Luzern restaurants

Roger Graham
 

Am 02.06.2014 22:17, schrieb 'Richard L. Anglin':
What a fabulous word! Perhaps we should have t-shirts made ... gircers.
even more fabulous and of a remarkable sound if spelled corrrectly
;-)

Gricing, wow word of the day! That's the first time I'd encountered that
work, and had to look it up. I believe the closest American expressing would
be rail-fanning.
As I always say: on SwissRail you can learn English. It's true, I
wouldn't know this word if I wasn't a member of SwissRail. On the other
hand, I wouldn't need to know, what it means, if I wasn't a member of
SwissRail...
For those that are interested here is the Oxford Dictionary entry for gricer

gricer, n.

Pronunciation: /ˈɡraɪsə(r)/
Etymology:... (Show More)
colloq.

A railway enthusiast, esp. one who assiduously seeks out and photographs unusual trains; loosely, a train-spotter.

The verb is grice. I have always used the word grice in a more specific context, as in gricing (travelling over) new track.

Roger


Re: Luzern restaurants

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 02.06.2014 22:17, schrieb 'Richard L. Anglin':
What a fabulous word! Perhaps we should have t-shirts made ... gircers.
even more fabulous and of a remarkable sound if spelled corrrectly
;-)

Gricing, wow word of the day! That's the first time I'd encountered that
work, and had to look it up. I believe the closest American expressing would
be rail-fanning.
As I always say: on SwissRail you can learn English. It's true, I wouldn't know this word if I wasn't a member of SwissRail. On the other hand, I wouldn't need to know, what it means, if I wasn't a member of SwissRail...
:-)

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Luzern restaurants

Richard L. Anglin
 

What a fabulous word! Perhaps we should have t-shirts made ... gircers.

Rick Anglin
Southern California European Train Enthusiasts (ETE)


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Gricing, wow word of the day! That's the first time I'd encountered that
work, and had to look it up. I believe the closest American expressing would
be rail-fanning.
--
Tim
Timothy A Johnson, Tucson, AZ (www.sbb-bls-bahnen.com)
European Train Enthusiasts, Central Arizona Chapter (www.ete.org) ---In
SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, <gordonwis@...> wrote :

Sad news.

...with a refreshing beer and a sit down after a hard day's gricing!


Re: SBB : Voralpin express

csipromo
 

[Moderator's note: This message belongs to the thread *"11241 derailed at Rapperswil"* but I don't have the means to move it there.]

I saw that there was another incident involving the Voralpen Express in which one of the trainsets with a SBB Re 4/4II derailed in or near Rapperswil Bahnhof.

I guess this means that the reserve coach set has been put into service.


Regards


Mike C


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