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Re: Swiss Franc

Heléna Moretti
 

DAVID STEVENSON wrote:

"I’ve not been for five years, not because I don't want to but it offers such poor value compared to Germany, Austria and Italy even that I’ve taken my custom elsewhere. I suspect I’m not the only one, but the reality is the Swiss in Switzerland aren’t bothered. DAVID S"

It is the impression I get too, I now travel three times as often to Italy, a 20% hike in prices is not going to help either. I listen to Swiss nationals and their greater concern is the loss of exports from watches, cheese and chocolate.

Helena

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Re: New EMUs for Berner Oberland Bahn

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 16.01.2015 um 21:43 schrieb Toma Bacic:
When the trains were ordered? And, the value...? regards toma
It is not clear, when exactly they were ordered but there is also a contract with Stadler for three more articulated driving trailers. However, the driving trailers will only be ordered when it will be clear that the "V-Bahn" (two gondola lifts starting in Grindelwald Grund, going to Eigergletscher and to Männlichen) can be built.

<http://www.jungfrau.ch/tourismus/news-events/v-bahn/die-8-elemente/>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: New EMUs for Berner Oberland Bahn

Martin Baumann
 

August 2014 but I only knew of it when reading Schweizer Eisenbahn Revue 01/15 today. No price is quoted in the magazine


Re: Swiss Franc

Bill Bolton
 

On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:41:02 +0000, David wrote:

they noted that less than 20% of incoming tourists now came from
Europe outside Switzerland.
FWIW, even at the new exchange rate, it is still less expensive
overall for me to visit Switzerland than it is to visit the UK.

Also, the AUD to EUR rate improved after the CHF announcement, so its
also less expensive for me to visit the Euro zone countries.

I really can't see this CHF change having the sort of dire impact on
Swiss tourism that some here are predicting!

Cheers,

Bill

Bill Bolton
Sydney, Australia


Re: New EMUs for Berner Oberland Bahn

Toma Bacic
 

When the trains were ordered? And, the value...? regards toma


New EMUs for Berner Oberland Bahn

Martin Baumann
 

BOB will receive ABDeh 8/8 321 to 326 from Stadler between December 2016 and May 2017.


Re: Swiss Franc

glenn allen
 

Marcus wrote :In an article of 7th January it was said that the foreign currency reserves of SNB had doubled within three years.


If they have any bundles of old English notes lying around I can give them a good home, help them out of their storage problems.


Re: Swiss Franc

gordonwis
 

Stayed in CH summer 2010 when the rate was bad. Just had to accept it. Also I self cater on main holidays with my better half. Plus anyone who has recently paid the prices retail outlets at British stations and motorway service areas charge won't notice a problem ...


Re: Swiss Franc

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 16.01.2015 um 19:23 schrieb glenn allen:
it must have been costing them a fair bit.
In an article of 7th January it was said that the foreign currency reserves of SNB had doubled within three years. And the newspaper quoted several economists saying that SNB couldn't and shouldn't hold the 1.20 limit.

<http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/wirtschaft/unternehmen-und-konjunktur/Devisenreserven-der-SNB-auf-fast-500-Milliarden-angestiegen/story/24219971>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Swiss Franc

John Lovda
 

Being an American, these rumours are not part of daily life. Even changing money is a difficult process. Unlike Europe, there are no Change businesses on every corner and your local bank branch would have to "order" your foreign notes from the main office with a day or so delay. I apologize for venting my frustration here but it really doesn't matter if Mickey Mouse changed the rate. I won't be going back for quite awhile now and I'm depressed.

Also, found on Yahoo.


Peter Spuhler, chief executive of Stadler Rail, which exports half of its trains abroad, described the sudden announcement as "shock therapy" for industry.
"The only thing you can do in the short term is relocate part of the production process abroad. Otherwise you have no chance and you don't get the orders," he told Swiss television.


Re: Swiss Franc

glenn allen
 

I use change-link.com in London, that was the rate I was quoting, still showing 1.2939 as I type.It has put about £100 on the cost of my hotel for February and the 330CHF for the Monats Buega is going to be extra £££ when I buy it.The rate does seem to have settled around the 1.30 mark, I remember a few years ago when it was even worse. Hopefully it'll stay at this rate for a while. Must be hurting the tourist trade and the export market, but how much longer could the bank have supported it? must have been costing them a fair bit.


Re: Re Swiss Franc

yatton123
 

I find them through the local Tourist Offices , they can advise on where the owner speaks English . I've stayed with some fascinating people , one was French tutor to Mark Tully, the BBC correspondent , another a writer and entertainer (unfortunately now closed) . You also eat excellent home cooked food and learn about Swiss culture/politics etc. , personally I find it far better (and a lot cheaper) than staying in some corporate hotel.
kp


Re: Swiss Franc

Chris Wood
 

Glenn Allen wrote:

Overnight it's dropped from 1.52 to 1.29.I really hope that's a typing mistake made by the exchange
agency I use.
I'm afraid not. According to xe.com's historical rates table, the Swiss Franc has gone from being worth about 64p to about 78p overnight.

That means everything in Switzerland now appears (observed from the outside) to be 21% more expensive. Ouch, that is going to hurt.


Re: Re Swiss Franc

Clive Dean
 

I'm glad to say that I managed to get £1000 of Swiss francs yesterday from
M&S after I heard the news but before they dropped their rates.


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Re Swiss Franc - STC Swiss Travel Pass

Andrew
 

Max Wrote


"If they have not yet adjusted their prices, it might be a good idea to book
the Swiss passes right now."



Thanks Max. You were correct. The Switzerland Travel Centre advised me that the price would almost certainly go up, and soon. As a result, i purchased my Swiss Pass today at the current price, plus a discount for being a member of The Swiss Railways Society. I can't see the price going down in the near future so hopefully a sensible move.


Unfortunately, i have had to reduce the length of my stay to compensate for the drop in value of The GBP, but i can't wait to return to the beautiful country. I will be staying on The Gotthard route again (Fluelen this time) as i think this is the last full year of the old route being in use prior to the new tunnel opening.


Best wishes


Andy


Re Swiss Franc

Andrew
 

KP wrote


"You can still get excellent accommodation for CHF45 - 55 per night "





Yes that certainly is good value. Are you prepared to share your secret ?. Do you use a particular trusted website to find these good value rooms, or maybe your local knowledge is sufficient. Sometimes the nice photos of hotels and the attached reviews hide the truth !


Thanks


Andy


Re: Re Swiss Franc

Max Wyss
 


You are correct Markus, it appears it was solely the decison of The SNB.
The people i feel really sorry for are the thousands upon thousands of hard
working Swiss people who work in the tourist industry and may well now lose
their jobs with the inevitable drop in tourists, unless there is a quick
reversal in either policy or a posotive reaction to yesterdays events. I
don't suppose these people care who is to blame.

There most likely won't be an immediate reversal of the policy. And if
there is one, it will become effective immediately without warning (that's
how it has to be done in order to avoid big scale speculation, messing
things up even more.


I will take no pleasure whatsoever is having to contact my hotel in
Switzerland to either cancel or drastically reduce the length of my stay.
As of now, you may take a rule of thumb that anything to be paid in CHF
will cost you about 15% more. However, that may get a bit lower; you'd have
to follow the situation a bit.



I will contact The Switzerland Travel Centre today and ask for their
opinion with regard to what may happen to the cost of Swiss passes etc. I
fear their response will not be good.
If they have not yet adjusted their prices, it might be a good idea to book
the Swiss passes right now. Otherwise, see above.

Max.


Re Swiss Franc

Andrew
 

You are correct Markus, it appears it was solely the decison of The SNB. The people i feel really sorry for are the thousands upon thousands of hard working Swiss people who work in the tourist industry and may well now lose their jobs with the inevitable drop in tourists, unless there is a quick reversal in either policy or a posotive reaction to yesterdays events. I don't suppose these people care who is to blame.


I will take no pleasure whatsoever is having to contact my hotel in Switzerland to either cancel or drastically reduce the length of my stay.


I will contact The Switzerland Travel Centre today and ask for their opinion with regard to what may happen to the cost of Swiss passes etc. I fear their response will not be good.


A


Re: Swiss Franc

DAVID STEVENSON
 

A conversation i had today with some fellow enthusiasts about this was brought into focus by this: "As to tourist numbers, when I spoke to the people whom I knew on the Swiss Tourism stand at the World Travel Market in Nov, they noted that less than 20% of incoming tourists now came from Europe outside Switzerland. Overall the Indians were the biggest group, followed by the Chinese, and then the Japanese, followed by South Americans. Apparently tourists from the UK and the US were now only about 2% from each. The largest number of Europeans were the French.” The Swiss in Switzerland aren’t bothered whether we go or not, they have new markets, far more fickle markets but huge. We are a bit of an irrelevance nowadays. I’ve not been for five years, not because I don't want to but it offers such poor value compared to Germany, Austria and Italy even that I’ve taken my custom elsewhere. I suspect I’m not the only one, but the reality is the Swiss in Switzerland aren’t bothered. DAVID S


Re: RE 421 371 -397

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 15.01.2015 um 04:22 schrieb csipromo@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
Markus, Are you confirming that as of 01/01/2015, only those 4 Re
421 can be operated with SBB passenger trains?
Shouldn't you replace "can" with "may"?

However, it is an SBB-internal rule. But then again, SBB wasn't free to set up a very different rule.

Your comment mentions EWI/II while the Re 421 in passenger operations
are primarily used with EC and perhaps EWIV on the international
routes to Germany/Austria.
Yes, Re 421 with EW I can only be found in the VAE now.

Markus, G�rbetal

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