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Re: More questions about Gotthard Tunnel opening celebration

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 10.01.2016 um 09:21 schrieb stephenhorobin@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
Their will certainly be sausages ,beer, music and speeches! (and trains)
The speeches will rather be on 1st July. But I don't think you will miss it, when you are eating your sausage and drinking your beer...
;-)

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: More questions about Gotthard Tunnel opening celebration

stephenhorobin
 

In my experience the Swiss are very slow at releasing details for events on the railways.
However what they are good at is organisation. Whatever the event turns out to be you can guarantee it will be a good one.
Their will certainly be sausages ,beer, music and speeches! (and trains)
Gottardo 2016 – Opening of the Gotthard Base Tunnel. http://www.gottardo2016.ch


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Gottardo 2016 – Opening of the Gotthard Base Tunnel.
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Re: More questions about Gotthard Tunnel opening celebration

George Raymond
 

This is not a direct answer to your question, but 2016 is a good year to come to the Gotthard in any case for a last look at all the trains on the mountain route. George


More questions about Gotthard Tunnel opening celebration

John Lovda
 

Does anyone have more detailed information about what will take place at Erstfeld and Biasca on June 4th and 5th? There was a previous statement on the SBB website (somewhere) that they were expecting over 50,000 people for the celebration. Since I am not a Swiss citizen, I can't enter the drawing for the June 1 ride anyway. If there will not be any public train rides on those days, what will happen besides just looking at the portals? Speeches by government and railroad officials? Will there be historic locomotives to walk through? What would make the day special for me to attend? I am assuming the "action" will take place about a km north of the old depot by the tunnel entrance. From previous rides past that area, it does not seem to be normally accessible to the public. I am planning to come this summer to take pictures anyway. I just don't want to be really disappointed if flights are not available around then.


Thanks,
John Lovda
Canton, OH USA


Delle station closure

Martin Baumann
 

No trains 29.02 to 28.08 inclusive due to work by SNCF in connection with the reopening of the line beyond Delle


rhb 704

gmeasures@...
 

Was the iianz turn this morn.
Gen from mr leaper


RhB 703

Martin Baumann
 

Currently working 1520 Landquart to St Moritz

Martin Baumann ( on board 1520 :-) )


Re: Zweisimmen line 30.12.2015

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 30.12.2015 um 23:43 schrieb martin98baumann@outlook.com [SwissRail]:
6060.03 was an NPZ unit (including two EW II coaches in the old BLS colours)
These are EW I (A 403 and AB 423).

The set RBDe 565 729 - B 545 - AB 423 - A 403 - ABt 969 is still in Spiez and seems to be kept as a reserve.

Markus, Gürbetal


Zweisimmen line 30.12.2015

Martin Baumann
 

6060.01 was 420 501 today but 6060.03 was an NPZ unit (including two EW II coaches in the old BLS colours) There were two EWIII sets statbled at Spiez, one with 420 505 and the other without a loco


CH-SBBI Xas 73

Guerbetaler
 

SBB Güterwagen 1997 brochure gives the numbers of these classic bogie ballast wagons as

Xas 30 85 9773 100-164/400-444/700-769
(65+45+70=180)

These were the numbers valid at the time of delivery 1975-77.
In fact they were renumbered after 1985 into:
Xas 80 85 9873 100-153/400-464/700-759
(54+65+60=179)

I found the renumbering plan of 1985 which said:
30 85 9773 100-125 > 80 85 9873 100-125
30 85 9773 127-153 > 80 85 9873 127-153
30 85 9773 154 > 80 85 9873 126
30 85 9773 155-164 > 80 85 9873 445-454
30 85 9773 400-444 > 80 85 9873 400-444
30 85 9773 700-759 > 80 85 9873 700-759
30 85 9773 760-769 > 80 85 9873 455-464

Two wagons have been scrapped, presumably after derailments:
30 85 9773 126 withdrawn November 1982
80 85 9873 117-8 scrapped 06.2013

BTW, the numbers referred to (until 1998)
1xx = Kreis 1 (Lausanne, Western Switzerland)
4xx = Kreis 2 (Luzern, Basel - Gotthard)
7xx = Kreis 3 (Zürich, Eastern Switzerland)

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: June 1, 2016 Gotthard Base Tunnel ride

John Lovda
 

When you say "mules," are these the equivalent of the hundreds of movie extras during huge riot or battle scenes? It will be a little anticlimactic for the 50k-100K expected visitors at Erstfeld and Biasca to see one train enter and one train exit each portal and listen to some speeches. Too bad they didn't send all regular trains over the old route that day and charge 25 Francs for charity and run specials every hour all day in both directions.

Speaking of security, is there any talk of requiring passengers on the future regular trains of passing through security with metal detectors, etc. as is done on the Eurostar? Apparently, the all Swiss passenger requirement must have been mandated to ease the security scrutiny.


The ironic part of the special ride is that in essence the passengers will be part of Swiss and rail history yet basically be taking the same "Worm Hole" ride they have done for decades but at a higher speed for a longer time. I hope the walls of the tunnel are painted with some neat pattern as that is all you will see. Some movie star or politician will get to ride with the driver.


John


Re: June 1, 2016 Gotthard Base Tunnel ride

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 28.12.2015 um 22:33 schrieb jlovda@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
Life is not fair. There will only be one train going in each
direction in June 1. There will be a lottery (free to enter) for a
pair of tickets. I don't know if there will be 1,000 winners (with
two seats) or 1,000 seats. I also don't know if this is for each
train or the sum of both. Unfortunately ONLY SWISS CITIZENS are
eligible to enter. I'm going to be there anyway!
There will be one train in each direction with 500 seats each. So the "lottery" is for 500 times two tickets. This is because "mutes" are needed for the official first train to be filmed and pictured, while the official guests will stand there and applaud. The official guests will only afterwards board a train to cross the tunnel.

Anybody taking part must agree that each person is identified, a security check is done and that they are photographed and filmed.

Markus, G�rbetal


June 1, 2016 Gotthard Base Tunnel ride

John Lovda
 

Life is not fair. There will only be one train going in each direction in June 1. There will be a lottery (free to enter) for a pair of tickets. I don't know if there will be 1,000 winners (with two seats) or 1,000 seats. I also don't know if this is for each train or the sum of both. Unfortunately ONLY SWISS CITIZENS are eligible to enter. I'm going to be there anyway!


John Lovda


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Re: Trains with 2 460 in new timetable

Martin Baumann
 

IC 824 reported leaving Winterthur today with 3 460

460 017 - 2 EW IV - 460 028 -IC2000- 460 044


Re: Stock Cascade

gordonwis
 

Sorry but you are not correct to say 'no'.

Yes they are for Rhone Alpes. This is the French region which surrounds the Geneva area of Switzerland and all the French sections of the CEVA routes will be under the direction of Rhone Alpes.

As can clearly be seen in the first sentence, the units in question are indeed destined for use on CEVA:


"Alstom is to supply 17 Régiolis to the Rhône-Alpes region, destined for the future Franco-Valdo-Genevois RER which will circulate on the CEVA (Cornavin–Eaux-Vives–Annemasse) cross-border line that links the region of Haute-Savoie with Switzerland... etc


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On j.p.a.kok@planet.nl [ wrote:

No, those EMUs for the de France Rhone-Alpes
region


Re: Stock Cascade

j.p.a.kok@...
 

No, those EMUs for the de France Rhone-Alpes region


Re: Stock Cascade

gordonwis
 


Re: Stock Cascade

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 25.12.2015 um 15:25 schrieb martin98baumann@outlook.com [SwissRail]:
Thurbo has always been owned 90 % by SBB and 10 % by Kanton Thurgau.
Not quite. It started as a joint-venture between SBB and MThB but when it became clear that the latter had a problem on the financing side, the canton of Thurgau stepped in.

What were originally MthB 526 680 to 526 689 (1998/1999) became
Thurbo when the latter took over the MthB infrastructure in 2003.
These are now NVR 94 85 7526 680 etc
There is no direct connection with the infrastructure. Thurbo took over many passenger concessions from MThB and SBB. Taking over the infrastructure concession hadn't been planned originally but had finally proved to be the only possible solution.

At the beginning a similar development was RegionAlps which took over passenger concessions from SBB and TMR and where SBB and TMR are partners. But TMR wasn't in trouble and thus the infrastructure is still TMR but the NINAs are now RA-owned.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Stock Cascade

Martin Baumann
 

Thurbo has always been owned 90 % by SBB and 10 % by Kanton Thurgau.

What were originally MthB 526 680 to 526 689 (1998/1999) became Thurbo when the latter took over the MthB infrastructure in 2003. These are now NVR 94 85 7526 680 etc

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