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Re: RhB Ge 6/6 II

Guerbetaler
 

This question is better at home on the BEMO-group!

Am 21.07.2017 um 12:01 schrieb 'Glyn Jones':

I have been asked this question by one of our USA based SRS members, does
anybody know if there was a full size model made. I assume he is of course
talking about a Ge 6/6 II.

"In regards to the RhB Ge 6/6, can anyone tell me if an actual full scale
model/prototype was made in the green color that I see on so many scale
models, and if so, when?"

Thanks,

Glyn

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glyn.jones
 

I have been asked this question by one of our USA based SRS members, does
anybody know if there was a full size model made. I assume he is of course
talking about a Ge 6/6 II.

"In regards to the RhB Ge 6/6, can anyone tell me if an actual full scale
model/prototype was made in the green color that I see on so many scale
models, and if so, when?"

Thanks,

Glyn


Re: 11646

Martin Baumann
 

620 046 now back in service. No overhaul just repaint and new headlights


Re: Schinznacher Baumschulbahn Garrat

Martin Baumann
 

It did indeed run at Schinznach, I had it for haulage there, but it was too big for part of the running line and prior to the sale it had not run for a considerable time


Re: Schinznacher Baumschulbahn Garrat

Chris Wood
 

Pete Arnold writes:

> The link is can only be accessed if you are a Facebook member.

I'm afraid that is something you will have to take up with Mark Zuckerberg. ;-)

But to summarise, it is quite a long thread that was initiated by some photographs of the truck carrying the locomotive receiving attention at a motorway service station. It then went into quite a long but ultimately inconclusive discussion as to whether the loco in question was an NGG13 or NGG16. Together with a discussion as to whether there any still running is South Africa, possibly at the Sandstone Railway, and some videos which have no caption but look like they were shot on the Welsh Highland Railway.

I must confess that Schinznacher Baumschulbahn is a railway I've somehow managed to miss on my visits to Switzerland, but from its description it does seem a little small for even a narrow gauge Garrat. Did it actually run there?.


Re: Schinznacher Baumschulbahn Garrat

racksteam
 

The link is can only be accessed if you are a Facebook member.

I have been informed that, whilst No.60 has indeed gone to the Vale of Rheidol Railway, it has actually been purchased by a private individual.


Pete Arnold
(UK)


11150

Martin Baumann
 

11150 is working 1707 Basel-Zurich-Chur vice ICE (train 71725) The 10 piece EW1 set includes 2 declasified firsts next to the driving trailer. 11150 leading Basel-Zurich


Re: Schinznacher Baumschulbahn Garrat

Chris Wood
 

Well that resolves a question that was posed in a different forum a few days ago:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Steamintheuk/permalink/1619715908059458/


Schinznacher Baumschulbahn Garrat

Martin Baumann
 

Garrart NGG16 60 has been sold the the Vale of Rheidol railway in Wales and arrived there yesterday


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

gordonwis
 

I certainly remember the non BLS lettered 'BLS' coaches being mixed and matched with other BLS group coaches. I have the N scale versions as they make a nice variation


11603 and 11604

Martin Baumann
 

Both these locos are currently out of service and it is so far not known if they will be returned to traffic.
11603 is at RBL
11604 is in Bellinzona


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.07.2017 um 08:12 schrieb Guerbetaler:
177-180 were subsidized when acquired and thus carried SEZ,
GBS, BN, BN, with the latter two having more cantons who participated.
It should also be noted that the coats of arms of the vehicles always corresponded to the lines of the owning company:
177 SEZ Zweisimmen
178 GBS Schwarzenburg
179 BN Bern
180 BN Ville de Neuchâtel

At that time, only the lines of BN and GBS reached Bern.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.07.2017 um 17:55 schrieb Guerbetaler:
The blue/cream coaches were for some time used throughout Switzerland
To be clear: This was in the slam-door period. Those coaches that got new doors were only used in push-pull consists afterwards.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

John Lovda
 

Markus: Thanks for the explanation.
John


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.07.2017 um 03:56 schrieb csipromo@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
Would those coaches be found in mixed consists together or with
normal BLS lettered coaches? Were they used on the entire network or
only on that particular section?
Each company owned the necessary number of vehicles for the trains on its own lines but use of the vehicles was mixed throughout the group. And even if the GBS owned one Re 4/4 the mail train was pulled by a BLS Ae 4/4, as the BLS group could make better use of the Re 4/4 elsewhere.

The blue/cream coaches were for some time used throughout Switzerland, so you could meet a GBS coach in a BLS group consist in Chur. Typically these consists were made up of 1 D, 2 A or 1 A + 1 AB and 3 or 4 B. They could also be coupled to additional SBB coaches or combined with other consists, even with DB or FS coaches, to longer trains.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.07.2017 um 03:52 schrieb csipromo@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
I did not know that there was a Thunerseebahn.
Would you be so kind and have a look at the graphic summary of the BLS history I posted? Maybe that this answers most questions.

<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bls-stammbaum.png>

TSB was absorbed by BLS in 1913.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 17.07.2017 um 02:17 schrieb gordonwis@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
Most of the BLS Re4/4 brownies when built had the bodyside lettering
of 'B L S', but a few were officially owned by the constituent
companies and had one of the other constituent companies of the
modern BLS, ie SEZ, GBS, BN on the side (eg 179 was B N)
Lettering was according to the financing. SEZ, GBS and BN got subsidies, BLS not. 177-180 were subsidized when acquired and thus carried SEZ, GBS, BN, BN, with the latter two having more cantons who participated.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

csipromo
 

I have the Lima 149783 Set which included one BLS Salon Bleu coach and SEZ, BN and GBS 2nd class coaches.

Would those coaches be found in mixed consists together or with normal BLS lettered coaches? Were they used on the entire network or only on that particular section?


Regards


Mike C


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

csipromo
 

Thanks for this information. I did not know that there was a Thunerseebahn.

I knew about BLS, SEZ, BN and GBS. Was the Thunerseebahn part of what I probably knew as BLS (Bern-Thun-Spiez-Interlaken/Loetschberg-Brig) or was it different trackage/route than what existed in 1972/1985/today?


I will have to check my Marti and Trueb book to see what it says there.


As far as the Loks, were they owned by the individual railways or were they owned by BLS but lettered for the individual railways?


Regards


Mike C


Re: Swiss train events in the Fall

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.07.2017 um 02:17 schrieb gordonwis@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
The constituent companies of the 'traditional' BLS group were: TSB:
Thunerseebahn
You forgot SFB Spiez-Frutigen-Bahn as a direct predecessor of BLS like
the TSB plus the Bödelibahn which operated from 1872 until being
absorbed by TSB in 1900. Prior to the BLS the TSB was the directing company.

SEZ: Spiez - Erlenbach - Zweisimmen, so if you ride Spiez -
Zweisimmen you are riding the 'SEZ'
In the last years before merger the blue/cream vehicles carried the brand "[SEZ] Simmentalbahn".

Markus

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