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Re: Request for Help with a Photo

Guerbetaler
 

I have sent some photos to Carl directly.

However, going through the photos of this type I noticed how difficult it is to take photos of panels. The paper ones have a plastic or acrylic glass to protect them and the modern ones are screens. In all cases it is sometimes impossible to find (remaining in save areas) an angle without any mirror effect.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Request for Help with a Photo

glenn allen
 

[attachments were forwarded directly to Carl]

Carl,
Don’t know if these are good enough, 2 arrivals and 2 departure posters from Samedan
Glenn

P.S. ‘fake’ one created on the internet
http://fahrplan.sbb.ch/bin/stboard.exe/en?ld=std3.a&

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Request for Help with a Photo

Carl Fowler
 

For whatever resaon my email address did not properly enter this message. Any photos could be sent to Railvt@comcast.net

I will also write this out as all text. Obviously convert "at/dot" to normal email format. Railvt at comcast dot net

Once again my sincere thanks for anyone who can help!


Request for Help with a Photo

Carl Fowler
 

I'm Vice Chair of the USA Rail Passengers Association (RPA/NARP). From 1983 to 2016, bfore my retirement, I led numeroius group tours of Switzerland as General Manager, then President of my tour service Rail Travel Center/Rail Travel Adventures and took hundreds of Swiss photos, but to my surprise never what I now need.

I'm giving a Power Point slide show at the April, 2019 meeting of the RPA in Washington, DC on the Swiss Travel System and how it works as a truly integrated network. In conjunction with this I need some pictures of:

1. A Swiss station white/yellow arrival/departure poster.
2. A Swiss station platform diagram showing where specific trains' cars would be spotted on that platform--ideally both the older paper/printed style and a current platform overhead display board.
3. A picture of a station bus/postal bus schedule/location poster.

If any member of the group has/would be willing to share jpgs of these items I would be most grateful. I will of course credit the photographer. Ideally I would ask that jpgs be emailed directly to me at railvt@comcast.net

My advanced thanks if anyone can help. This program will cover the Swiss Transport System from the steam trains on the Furka Pass to the Arosa branch to the modern mainline tilt sets--and of all of the SBB network I took and/or collected I failed to document how the integration of modes works at stations.

I've been a (passive) member of this group for years, enjoying the news of the SBB. My thanks again if anyone can help!

Carl Fowler
Vice Chair Rail Passengers Association (NARP) USA


Re: Snow and avalanches

Guerbetaler
 

RhB had also to close Preda - Bever, Sumvitg - Disentis and Cinuos-chel-Brail - Susch, MGB closed Andermatt - Dieni and finally also Andermatt - Niederwald. So Disentis and the Upper Engadin were cut off, as the parallel roads were closed as well. In the evening the Albula could be reopened.

I was told that in the afternoon there were trains Klosters - Davos and Chur - Arosa but at the moment it seems that the trains are again replaced by buses.

The RE trains through Goppenstein are working but they don't stop there. On the radio they told that some car shuttles Brig - Kandersteg are working but nothing can be found on the BLS web site!

Markus, Gürbetal


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Snow and avalanches

Guerbetaler
 

At the moment some parts of Switzerland are covered under much snow. The risk of avalanches is said to be very high. This is why RhB closed the Chur - Arosa and the Klosters - Davos lines. SBB stopped traffic between Erstfeld and Airolo, buses will replace the trains until Tuesday.

An avalanche reached the Realp - Hospental road and damaged four cars but all persons could leave the cars savely. The railway line of MGB is not affected but the car shuttle service has been closed.

BLS had to close the car shuttle service to and from Goppenstein and will not reopen it before Tuesday. Recent SMS says that Goppenstein is now completely closed.

Several roads are closed as well.

Markus, Gürbetal


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Re: SBB Cargo locos

Martin Baumann
 

railcolor.net reports that SBB have sold 482 048 and 482 049 to Hamburger Rail Service


Re: 502 units from December 2018

Keith Hookham
 

After reading the article and reading what the drivers were saying the
train, it now makes to me. I travelled on 502011 on IR2275 14.43 Basel -
Zürich on 06.01.19. We had departed Basel on time. Then after about 10
seconds we ground to a halt. It was opposite the mail terminal just by the
siding for the locos to go back into the station and by the spherical sign
which appears to be made up of road traffic signs. When we came to a stand
it seemed to be that all air was totally lost from the brakes. There was an
announcement stating that we should be on the move within a couple of
minutes. We were and went about 2 feet when exactly the same thing
happened. In total we were delayed about 10 minutes and finally I arrived
at Liestal at 15.03.

Cheers Keith


Re: 502 units from December 2018

Martin Baumann
 

The disabled organisation is appealing the November verdict to the Bundesgericht.

IC1 operation has been postponed indefinitely.

A German article on the Bombardier problems can be read here:

https://www.watson.ch/schweiz/%C3%96v/895319546-so-leiden-die-lokfuehrer-unter-den-neuen-sbb-pannen-doppelstoecker


Re: Geneva Trams 09/01/2019

Guerbetaler
 

Thanks Keith for this survey! I made a little statistic, which showed:
20 of 32 Stadler Tango 1801-1832 out
27 of 39 Bombardier Cityrunner 861-899 out
28 (14 pairs) of 46 Vevey/Düwag 801-22/25-26/31-52 out
(but 17 of the 24 Be4/6 and only 11 of the 22 Be4/8!)

As expected, the Tangos and Cityrunners were each distributed over all four lines.

Markus, Gürbetal


Geneva Trams 09/01/2019

Keith Hookham
 

Today is my last full day on this trip and as I was staying in Geneva and as they provide you with a FREE transport card I decided that I needed to take full advantage of it and get my monies worth out of it. It nearly didn’t happen though, as soon as I left the hotel dandruff fell from the sky with aplomb. I very nearly turned around but my free ticket was burning a hole in my pocket so I carried on. Glad I did as managed to get 15 out of my last 24 trams so not at all bad. And it stopped snowing by about 11.30 & the it turned out quite nice in the sun.

So I wanted to view the trams.
The four lines are
Line 12 (believed to have 18 turns at time of viewing them).
Line 14 (believed to have 19 turns at time of viewing them).
Line 15 (believed to have 13 turns at time of viewing them)
Line 18 (believed to have 10 turns at time of viewing them)

So off I popped off to start with Line 12, then 15, then 18 & finally 14.
Here are the results with all the turn numbers taken from the two digits displayed in the front of the tram.

Line 12
1 - 802/835
2 - 813/843
3 - 808/821
4 - 803/819
5 - 822/851
6 - 811/ 847
7 - 873
8 - 816/831
9 - 892
10 - 805/834
11 - 818/838
12 - 812/844
13 - 806/837
14 - 817/840
15 - 820/841
16 - 1807
17 - 815/801
18 - 1823
34?? - 1812 (suspect not changed from previous day?)

Line 14
31 - 883
32 - 896
33 - 867
34 - 1808
35 - 878
36 - 1820
37 - 1818
38 - 894
39 - 1825
41 - 878
42 - 865
43 - 888
44 - 884
45 - 880
46 - 1832
47 - 1809
48 - 1824
49 - 870
50 - 895

Line 15 not sure how this one works as there were many gaps but every turn was seen.
62 - 887
64 - 861
65 - 876
66 - 891
70 - 1811
71 - 872
73 - 877
75 - 898
76 - 897
78 - 1827
79 - 1830
80 - 1822
83?? (Must be wrong as 83 is a line 18 turn) - 899

Line 18 again a few gaps but all services seen.
81 - 869
82 - 868
83 - 1817
85 - 1826
86 - 875
88 - 1806
89 - 1814
92 - 1803
93 - 880
94 - 1810

I can only surmise that the turns I didn’t see are the ones that come out for the peaks?


Cheers Keith.


Re: SRT 487 001

Martin Baumann
 

487 001 has been sold to Salzburger Eisenbahn Transport Logistik (SETG) in Austria


Lausanne M1 & M2 today.

Keith Hookham
 

So today I heading down to cover the M2 & then the M1 services in Lausanne. By looking at the online timetable it appeared to be that the M2 required 11 sets to be in traffic in the time I would be there (09.45-11.00ish) so I decided to head toward the lake first as that was the least busiest. By being particularly sad and getting off at every shack I went from Lausanne Gare - Ouchy - Riponne and found only 10 sets were out. These being in order of having them:- 246, 256, 241, 257, 254, 253, 242, 255, 258, 247. I also found out that another one of my lists was out of date again as it only went up to 255.
Then headed to Flon to cover the M1 where I thought there maybe 6 sets out depending on whether they came straight back from Renens. If not then there would be 7 sets. (I believe that there would be even more during peak hours as they run every 5 minutes compared to the 7 - 8 minutes when I covered them.)
In fact the last time I did the M1 they were single sets. So I was delighted to find that all services covered were now double sets.
I had 220 & 216, 222 & 205, 204 & 219, 208 & 214, 203 & 209, 221 & 211, 207 & 210.
So 7 sets there. Also again my list woefully out of date as it only went up to 217. Wikipedia states that they received 5 new units back in 2015. Shows you how long it’s been since I last updated my lists.

Cheers Keith.


Re: SBB - BVB loks 31 & 32.

Guerbetaler
 

Am 06.01.2019 um 15:56 schrieb Mark Pichowicz:
in August 2010. During the days I was there No. 32 worked every day
which I wasn't expecting in the Summer.
And if I'm not mistaken, these are the only photos where the driving trailer is at the Bretaye side and not at the Villars end of the consist.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: SBB - BVB loks 31 & 32.

Mark Pichowicz
 

Its a while ago now but I spent a few days at a conference in Villars in August 2010. During the days I was there No. 32 worked every day which I wasn't expecting in the Summer. As already mentioned, the locos work fairly regularly on busy days during the ski season when they need extra capacity.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bantam61668/5712333793/in/album-72157626146618845/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bantam61668/5712333725/in/album-72157626146618845/

Mark


Re: TPC Villars station, was: BVB loks 31 & 32.

jpnoiville
 

Does BVB run dedicated goods trains (foodstuff and garbage) between Villars and Bretaye? And if so, is it according to a schedule?
Yes they do, but it's not a scheduled service.
Sometimes also a scheduled train will push a flat car loaded with light freight, for the restaurants and hotel in Bretaye.


Re: SBB - BVB loks 31 & 32.

jpnoiville
 

The Villars-Bretaye service has a heavy schedule in the winter months, taking skiers from Villars resort to the bottom of the skilifts at Bretaye.
There's a train every 15 mn in the morning or afternoon.
The schedule is much lighter in the summertime, so these old locomotives are not needed.


Re: TPC Villars station, was: BVB loks 31 & 32.

Guerbetaler
 

Am 06.01.2019 um 12:23 schrieb jpnoiville:
The gate remains locked.
There is also a gate at the end of the other two tracks, so that the platform for Bretaye can only be reached via the ticket control.

One of the gates must be opened, when vehicles leave the rack section.

It should be mentioned that the "arrows" (21-26) all like the old locomotives have a valley side and a mountain side. If you see an arrow at Bretaye besides a driving trailer, you will see the valley side, with the pantograph. But if you see an arrow besides a driving trailer in Bex, you will see the mountain side, with the luggage compartment.

So, if an arrow comes from the Bévieux depot to work on the Bretaye line, it has to use the curve, going through the small gate. If a push-pull consist comes from Bévieux, it has to go to the end of the line in Villars and enter through the big gate.

I found one phot where 25 stands in Villars on the rack section with the pantograph towards the mountain. But it stands there together with a tram car (adhesion only), so it's strange anyway...
<http://www.suisse-express.be/compagnies/TPC/BVB/BDeh%202-4%2021-26/25%20'Grand-Maman'/slides/TPC%20BVB%20BDeh%202-4%2025%20Villars%2030.04.2012%20(3).jpg>

Markus, Gürbetal

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