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Re: Re 4/4 IV

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.02.2019 um 22:06 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
Will they modify them for use in DE/AT or keep using them in Switzerland.
It would be cheaper to buy some Re 421 than to try to adapt and get an approval for an Re 446 in Germany.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Re 4/4 IV

csipromo
 

Interesting news.
Will they be renting/leasing it to other operators or will they be running them on their own?
The Re 446 are homologated for Switzerland only. Will they modify them for use in DE/AT or keep using them in Switzerland.

Regards

Mike C


Re: SRT 487 001

csipromo
 

Is there any correlation between RailAdventure's acquisition of the two prototype Re 6/6 and the decision by SRT to divest itself of the Re 487?
Since it's acquisition, one of the main tasks undertaken by SRT's Re 487 had been the transport of rolling stock on behalf of RailAdventure.
What tractive stock is SRT currently using for it's trains?

Regards

Mike C


Geneva Trams again. (02/02/2019) Long

Keith Hookham
 

Ok then Keith why are you posting gen on Geneva trams again. You should be at home doing the washing and being a volunteer at the local football club. Well yes I should but for some reason yesterday my flight home didn’t happen. Apparently planes cannot land in a blizzard on snow covered runways. I mean I ask you. Health and safety gone mad. So what does Stelios do for me? He kindly allows me to book onto the next available flight on.....Sunday afternoon. Cheers then. Fortunately they also sorted out the accommodation for me for the extra 2 nights. If you already booked with EasyJet make sure you download their app as it was a godsend last night and took all the pain and unnecessary queuing up away.

Any who onto the gen:-
Less trams out today due to it being the weekend and all that so not sure the turn numbers does it justice.
Lines 12, 14 & 15 seem to have 8 turns until midday when they then become 10. Line 18 seemed to be 8 all day. However there were lots of set swaps going on all day which is why some lines seem to have more turns. In fact at the time it happened around 11.30 one of my at that point last 3 (1828) was swapped off line 14 at Stand. It was not to be seen again. ;-(
Also today from 14:00 - 17:00 the line between Plainpalais and possibly Bel-Air or maybe even further, was closed due to some march?
So all line 12 trams from Bachet-de-Pesay were terminated at Plainpalais. Everyone was made to get off whilst it then went around the loop just to the north. (Hope the map comes through ok.) Line 18 were not calling at Plainpalais and were taking the line towards where line 15 is. It continued towards Cornavin via Goulart before regaining its booked line.
Also I am not sure if this happens regularly but after I popped up to the depot to see if i could find out if 1828 was coming back out (was not successful in that) I noticed that the Bachet-de-Pesay terminators then became the service to Moillesulaz headed and utilised the turning circle (see second diagram) and they then stopped again at Bachet-de-Pesay to pick up for the second time. I can understand why the single ended trams do this but not the ones that can be driven from both ends? Anyway to relieve the boredom I did the move and was then heading towards De-Staël stop when there was an announcement which I did not understand except the terminate part. I was not expecting us to, however, take the loop (the black loop line at the top of the depot in picture two) into the depot confines as the set was being swapped.








And the gen

Line 12
Turn 1 869
2 826/838
3 1818
4 892
5 1804
12 895
13 802/832
16 868
18 1829 ✔️
38 1819 (suspect they forgot to change to correct turn?)
49 869 (suspect they forgot to change to correct turn?)

Line 14
31 878
32 864
33 1827
34 881
35 861
36 889
37 898
38 1831✔️
39 1828 swapped out at Stand & onto depot.
41 1821✔️
42 884
43 1814
44 1808
45 1825
49 859

Line 15
61 880
62 897
63 899
64 865
65 1826
66 875
67 896
68 1817
69 879

Line 18
81 862
82 1824
83 1815
85 894
86 866
88 873
89 1803
94 1801

Now if you are not bored enough but want some more Geneva gen but want to Ned from the comfort of your own warm home. Well there is an app I was made aware of today by a TPG bloke. Available for iOS & Android you can find out what is working for the next hour at stops you request. If only I knew of this before I was down to my last one. The app is accurate from my observations however I believe that older trams are not shown?
More gen here. https://www.nicolapps.ch/tpgwidget/ It basically gives you an option to type in a stop & then by pressing the service it shows the ID of the bus/tram and where it’s calling points are.
TPGwidget — raccourcis TPG by Stefan Ettlin
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/tpgwidget-raccourcis-tpg/id959278327?mt=8
This is the Android app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.nicolapps.tpgwidget&hl=en_US

Cheers Keith.


Re 4/4 IV

Martin Baumann
 

The sale of SOB 446 015 to 018 to Eisenbahndienstleister (EDG) has been agreed. When the locos are handed over will depend on when the new Stadler units take over the VAE in the course of this year.

EDG have bases in Thayngen, Germany and Basel and recently started operating two German 142 class locos that have had several owners since DR/DB:

142 042 was 476 012 in Switzerland before going back to Germany

142 103: this is a fake number for reasons unknown the loco was 142 272 in Germany and was in Switzerland for a time as 477 913


Geneva Trams

Keith Hookham
 

So I am trying to get home. Currently at Geneva with a blizzard going on outside & my plane already 1 hour late. Fingers crossed that I get home.
Anyway so with no real planes decided to cover some Geneva trams. Importance being put on line 12 as I needed 814, 826 & 842 to complete them.
So I made my way down to Bel-Air and hoped.
Turns I saw were:-
1 818/847
2 802/832
3 815/801
4 803/819
5 809/846
6 817/840
7 806/836
8 826/838
9 1824
10 814/842
11 805/834
12 821/850
13 874
14 820/852
15 877
16 811/848
17 816/807
18 1816
20 822/844

Quite pleased as the penultimate turn I saw was turn 8 which was done to Place De Neuve for the last turn 10 which had my last two on. Due done back to Bel-Air.

Other turns I saw were
Line 14
31 870
32 1823
33 1802
34 1818
39 1826
42 894
46 1807
48 1806
50 1801

Line 15
76 876

Line 18
83 861
84 897
88 1809
93 884.

So now down to the 5 18xx now which is pleasing. Having to stand in the snow to wait for winners not so pleasing.

Cheers Keith.


Today’s Gen 31/01/2019

Keith Hookham
 

Today I went back to see if lok 31 had been fixed overnight. Hopes were high when I saw nothing shown as caped. Hopes then dashed when unit 93 (usually utilised for the section Bex - Villars appeared & duly worked the diagram.) Darn it.
Unit 15 was shunting about on the station with about 2 foot of snow on the roof as was no 25 which had been stood on the loop previously.

So I went back to Lausanne via Champéry as I could not remember the last time I went there. Upon arrival saw steam train VS450537. Shame it has rubber tyres and runs on the road. 😝.
Anyway back at Lausanne to cover the M1 metro. Covered the 7 diagrams from 15.50 and noted the following.
15.50 558 221/211
15.57 558 207/209
16.05 558 203/214
16.12 558 212/218
16.20 558 217/215
16.27 558 213/205
16.34 558 222/206
Scored 5 there with only 201 & 202 to get now.
It was then time to cover the LEB. Fortunately they seemed to be running better today than Tuesday albeit still with delays of about 5 minutes which was good for making minus connections at Chauderon.
After looking at the timetable it appeared to require 5 units for the normal timetable and 3 or more than likely 4 units for the evening peaks.
So starting with the peak turns:-
16.26 not viewed.
16.56 35
17.26 34
17.56 27

Normal timetable turns (all departing Flon times)
16.48 49
17.03 48/46
17.18 43
17.33 42/33
18.03 47/32.

So 11 units to be had between 16.48 & 18.03 and never went further than Flon - Chauderon and back. Proper gricing. 😝😝😝.

Anyway that’s another trip to Switzerland completed. Here’s hoping I get home tomorrow due to a flack of snow falling in Birmingham.

Cheers Keith.


Re: SBB- BVB 30/01/2019

WildBoarFell
 

On Saturday 19th January I was on my way down the BVB when loco 31 passed me.I waited for it at Col-de-Soud,it departed at 12.25 to Villars a service which was not on the timetable sheets or SBB journey planner.It was possibly the return of the 11.45 ex Villars.
On arrival at Villars it was taken out of service,don't know if it was planned or not.


Re: Station Boards app?

Keith Hookham
 

Have forgotten about that. Must bookmark it. Would prefer an app though if anyone knows of one as it will probably be quicker.

Cheers Keith.


Re: Station Boards app?

Martin Baumann
 


Station Boards app?

Keith Hookham
 

So is there such a thing? Have looked all over the SBB app and cannot find a departure screen on there at all. Just the option to do a From/To search.

Cheers Keith.


SBB- BVB 30/01/2019

Keith Hookham
 

Today was about 2 things.
Number one was to get some photos taken to add to the excellent SpotLog app (for IOS & Android) & its website https://spotlog.org/locolist to which I am currently helping with the Swiss part and the aim was for some more of the BVB section of the TPC network.
Number two objective was having had the gen that BVB loco 31 is back out and working passenger trains, then getting that in for haulage was also to be done. 31 was allocated to work from Villars – Bretaye at 09.45, 10.45, 11.45, 15.15, and 16.15.
I was at Villars and got the pictures required for the app, loco 31 then set about coming into the station and promptly yes you have guessed it, failed with an electrical fault. These locos are becoming my nemesis. Not sure if BVB do delay-repay but they have at least 4 services that have been cancelled today.

On the SBB front, the RE 4/4 turns appear to still work from Sion / St Maurice with 11172 & 11161 seen this morning.

Cheers Keith.


Problems on the LEB 29/01/2019

Keith Hookham
 

When I arrived at Romanel today on unit 36, they were announcing that many trains were being cancelled & also delayed due to what I believe was an operating incident?? Whilst I was there for the best part of 25 minutes waiting for a train back to Lausanne the signals at the level crossing end kept going out as did the ground signals. Also the same was happening at the Lausanne end of the platforms. So assume that they were having major signalling problems?

Cheers Keith.


Basel 1937

Martin Baumann
 

The linked page is a 20min.ch story about the forthcoming major tram track replacement in the square outside Basel SBB (Centralbahnplatz) but it also has a 3 minute video showing trams and local railways in Basel in 1937

https://tinyurl.com/yd7ltrpy


Re: Train/Vehicle Accidents at level crossings

Guerbetaler
 

Am 25.01.2019 um 03:34 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
Have the Swiss Network and Police launched a campaign over the years
to instruct people that if they become trapped, they should drive
through the barrier, as that causes less damage and delay than being
hit by a train?
No, they haven't.

Markus, Gürbetal


Train/Vehicle Accidents at level crossings

csipromo
 

Over the past week or so, I have read/seen reports of accidents, one involving a SBB Re 450 S-Bahn and one a RhB Ge 4/4II and cars which had become trapped between the barriers.

Have the Swiss Network and Police launched a campaign over the years to instruct people that if they become trapped, they should drive through the barrier, as that causes less damage and delay than being hit by a train?

In Canada, the barriers often only exist on the side of the road where the lane leads to the crossing, meaning that cars crossing can continue in their direction of travel once they have passed the barrier.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Fire in Chur

csipromo
 

How many of the buses were owned and operated by SwissPost (Postauto) and how many might have been private operators under contract?
As far as any replacement buses, would those come from the Postauto fleet or would private operators transfer some of their equipment on loan or lease?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Threatened lines in the east

Guerbetaler
 

Am 19.01.2019 um 13:00 schrieb Guerbetaler:
Gais - Altstätten
main traffic is touristic.
- riding in the open coach
- going to or cominf from a hike
- bicycles, obviously only in one direction
- sledges (if there is snow)
and all that in sunny weather only...
Comparing this with the two other lines:

Rorschach - Heiden also has a strong touristic segment and still has the original open coaches. Rheineck - Walzenhausen has touristic traffic but no special offers, as there is only the single motor coach and nothing else. But

Walzenhausen - St. Gallen by train (changing in Rheineck) takes 36 or 37 min and is possible twice an hour.
Walzenhausen - St. Gallen by bus (changing in Heiden) takes 58 or 60 min and is mostly possible once an hour.

Heiden - St. Gallen by train (changing in Rorschach) takes 49 min and is possible once an hour.
Heiden - St. Gallen by bus (without changing) takes 35 or 38 min and is possible at least twice an hour.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Threatened lines in the east

Guerbetaler
 

Am 19.01.2019 um 00:58 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
Re Gais - Altstätten: Whenever I have been on it the loading was
sparse.
Main traffic is touristic.
- riding in the open coach
- going to or cominf from a hike
- bicycles, obviously only in one direction
- sledges (if there is snow)

and all that in sunny weather only...

Nevertheless cost coverage isn't that bad with around 30% (without infrastructure). To compare, Solothurn - Moutier is around 20% and
the investments necessary are much more important.

The danger is, that cost coverage might fall under 20% if the cost of new rolling is much higher.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Threatened lines in the east

gordonwis
 

Re Gais - Altstätten

I'm not surprised by this at all. Whenever I have been on it the loading was sparse.

Also, of course it suffers from having had the valley end truncated so that there is no seemless rail journey direct to an SBB station. The bus/walk requirement is offputting

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