My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by insurance.

Would it not be more a question of the logistics of the shunt move from the RhB main lines (track 10) across the SBB lines to the Arosa side. The plan to move the Arosa tracks to a new set of platforms was considered as too expensive.
It would be possible to install new tracks over the SBB lines after they’ve got out of the station area. Again, a question of cost.

Is it still possible to obtain a list showing the allocations of RhB locos in service on the day (Lokdienst)? I believe this used to be possible from either the ticket office or the station café/bar at Filisur - is it still available there or anywhere else?

➢ I think it is only available online to members of the RhB insider club

https://www.rhbclub.ch/en

I see now that it the decision was taken some months ago, I just anticipated that the official pdf timetables might be updated. Is it that the timetable from 8th Sept will be exactly the same as that until 7th Sept? Are there any updated pdfs to be found? I deliberately planned to go in in the second half of September so as to avoid the works too.....

I understand that if you pay to join the RhB Club you have access to this info.

They always used to available from red caps, but red caps seem to be a thing of the past.

Personally I consult the shunters sheets on the trolleys on the main platform at Landquart.

Cheers

Clive

Am 22.08.2019 um 21:06 schrieb john_dmj:

My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge
tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by
insurance.

It is permitted and can be done/has been done for extra workings. But this only works from Landquart direction to Arosa, not from Disentis or Arosa.

Landquart - Arosa isn't a market. Additionally you would rather take the faster standard gauge train in Landquart to Chur and change there. Standard gauge needs 8 or 9 min, meter gauge 18 or 19 min.

People travelling to Arosa come from Zürich or St. Gallen direction, if not locally from Chur. A few might also come from Thusis, Ilanz oder Lenzerheide direction, maybe also from Klosters, Davos or Scuol. But this doesn't fill trains.

If the train from Scuol continues to Disentis, this isn't to cover a big demand of passengers wishing to travel Scuol - Disentis. It's rather for those from Klosters direction who want to go to Chur, so they can remain seated.

Markus, Gürbetal

My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by insurance.

Hello all!
What is the reason, why in post-1997 time, RhB never introduced through
services to Arosa? E.g. Landquart - Arosa, etc...?

regards & thank you
toma

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Hi all,

Is it still possible to obtain a list showing the allocations of RhB locos in service on the day (Lokdienst)? I believe this used to be possible from either the ticket office or the station café/bar at Filisur - is it still available there or anywhere else?

Many thanks

Dave

Even though the published timetables on fahrplanfelder show trains running to Scuol-Tarasp again from 8th Sept, it appears that the engineering work is actually on until 5th Oct.
Clive

➢ SBB timetable pages show a bus service from Susch as it is as present.
Mucks up my planned trip to Austria in 3 weeks time.

Apart from the Unterengadin line of RhB which will remain closed for one more month, also SOB encountered problems with tunnel engineering work:

The reopening of the St. Gallen - Herisau line had to be postponed after parts of the tunnel arch collapsed during works on it. Closure is now
06.07.2019 01:40 through 26.08.2019 04:00.

Obviously not easy to repair tunnels...

Markus, Gürbetal

Am 21.08.2019 um 08:30 schrieb Clive Barlow:

Even though the published timetables on fahrplanfelder show trains
running to Scuol-Tarasp again from 8th Sept, it appears that the
engineering work is actually on until 5th Oct.

Already in June RhB informed that the closure of the Unterengadin will last longer than planned. During the works in Magnacun tunnel the constructing firms encountered important problems which made a reopening in Septmeber impossible. RhB told me that it wasn't easy to find buses AND drivers for the additional month. Online timetables and homepages have been updated.

For those who can read German:
<https://www.engadinerpost.ch/2019/6/19/Die-Totalsperre-der-RhB-im-Unterengadin-dauert-laenger>
<https://www.rhb.ch/de/unternehmen/projekte-dossiers/totalsperrung-unterengadin>

Markus, Gürbetal

Even though the published timetables on fahrplanfelder show trains running to Scuol-Tarasp again from 8th Sept, it appears that the engineering work is actually on until 5th Oct.

Cheers

Clive

That url doesn't work for me, but https://www.historic-ostschweiz.ch/fahrten/ does work. Perhaps they changed it.

To DVZO 50th anniversary celebrations:

https://www.historic-ostschweiz.ch/Fahrten/

Tomorrow 20.08.2019

675 13:04 Basel-Lugano

688 17:34 Lugano-Basel

are expected to be a pair of 501 units

Am 16.08.2019 um 16:28 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:

Will the ICE4 be running just in Switzerland or will it replace that
particular ICE1 on the entire run, be it Interlaken - Hamburg or
Interlaken - Frankfurt?

All ICE1 in international services will eventually be replaced by ICE4. The change must be done at once because seat arrangements are completely different. Otherwise it wouldn't be possible to correctly reserve seats.

All ICE1 sets will be rearranged and continue as shorter consists on less heavily trafficked lines. More details slightly off-topic in this forum. :-)

Markus, Gürbetal

Am 16.08.2019 um 11:57 schrieb Chris Wood via Groups.Io:

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why is a DB ICE unit (be it
ICE1 or ICE4) operating what looks like an entirely domestic Swiss
diagram?.

To reach a point to sleep where they feel at home. ;-)

One consist does Berlin - Interlaken Ost - Basel (371/336/338).
The next ICE arriving in Interlaken Ost at 21:57 (373) is stored there and goes off at 06:00 to Berlin (372).
The next one in the morining does Basel - Interlaken Ost - Berlin (333/278)

Basel Bad has some maintenance facilities for ICE.

Markus, Gürbetal

I am trying to figure out some information...

SBB Cargo International leases 18 Vectrons from LokRoll. Are these loks identical, or are there some with a slightly different package?
SBB IN also leases a number of Vectrons from ELL (Austria). Some of those loks have two pantographs and are homologated for D/AT and others have four pantographs and are homologated for more countries (D/A/CH/I/NL).

SBB IN leased 20 further Vectrons from Suedleasing. Will these loks be identical to the LokRoll machines or will they have slight differences.

The four Vectrons leased by Hupac that were intended to be operated by SBB IN were rejected by SBB IN. Does anybody have any particulars as to why they were rejected? What, if any, differences are there between these loks and the LokRoll/ELL loks? The only information that I obtained was that operation of these loks would require additional operator training. I know that the pantographs were not the same as the LokRoll equipment, but don't know what the other differences may have been (cab design, control equipment, etc).

Any additional information is appreciated.

On a related question, what SBB tractive stock is homologated for use in Belgium? Does SBB IN operate to Antwerp, Ghent or Zeebrugge or do they rely on partners?

Regards

Mike C

Will the ICE4 be running just in Switzerland or will it replace that particular ICE1 on the entire run, be it Interlaken - Hamburg or Interlaken - Frankfurt?

Regards

Mike C

Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why is a DB ICE unit (be it ICE1 or ICE4) operating what looks like an entirely domestic Swiss diagram?.