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BLS 171

Martin Baumann
 

171 has been withdrawn and is waiting for disposal in Ramsei


SBB Cargo Changes

csipromo
 

It was a big day for news regarding SBB Cargo and I have many questions...

To start with, Railcolor.net reported that 35% of SBB Cargo will be controlled by Swiss Combi AG, a joint venture composed of Planzer (40%), Camions Transport (40%), Galliker (10%) and Bertschi (10%). As part of this agreement, SBB Cargo International will fall under the administration of SBB. SBB Cargo International is controlled by SBB (75%) and Hupac (25%).

It was also reported in Drehscheibe Online that SBB Cargo intends to sell it's fleet of Bombardier Re 482.

I don't know if there is any direct connection, but if SBB Cargo is divesting itself of it's international operations (SBBCI), it may no longer require the Re 482, which were primarily used in Germany and on runs into or through Germany.

Bertschi was previously a minority partner in Rail4Chem before that company was sold to Veolia, taken over by SNCF and integrated into their ITL/Captrain operation.

My question is how will this affect operations and locomotive ownership? The Re 474, 482, 484 were owned by SBB Cargo. I don't know if some were registered with SBB Cargo Italia or SBB Cargo. The Vectrons (LokRoll) were leased by SBB Cargo International. As far as I know, the latest lease deal (Suedleasing) was also SBBCI. AFAIK the ELL (Vectron) and MRCE (ES64F4) leases were also under SBBCI.

Will this scramble the fleet and how will it be structured from here on out?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Special trains with 11407 or 141R1244 September 2019

gbgen <gbgen@...>
 

The trip at 14:00 on 8 Sep is now booked for the steam 141R1244. It had originally been advertised with 11407.


Re: SBB turnout points drive mechanisms

John Beaulieu
 

Higher speed turnout means longer moving blades, which requires additional switch motors. I have never seen more than 4 motors though.

John Beaulieu
Wisconsin - USA


SBB turnout points drive mechanisms

RG Teeter
 

I have been watching cab ride videos and noticed that turnouts (crossovers) seem to come with 1, 2, or 3 switch point drive mechanisms (motors). Also have seen 8 and 12 drives. I would like to know what then max or recommended speeds are for these turnouts (switches).

Another question, is the SBB teamwork controlled from one location, or more, and if so what city?

Curious person in Texas, Bob Teeter


SBB Trenord FLIRT 524 024 through Pratteln

davey
 

At 17.45. Rear destination indicator said Chiasso, did not clock the front one.


Re: RhB: first Ge 4/4 II withdrawn

gbgen <gbgen@...>
 


SBB-P 420 133 on freight

davey
 

Noted 12.50 today heading through Pratteln towards Muttenz with short rake if containers


Re: RhB engineering work

gordonwis
 

On Thursday, 22 August 2019, 22:37:52 BST, Clive Barlow <b25ss@hotmail.com> wrote:
I see now that it the decision was taken some months ago, I just anticipated that the official pdf timetables might be updated. Is it that the timetable from 8th Sept will be exactly the same as that until 7th Sept? Are there any updated pdfs to be found? I deliberately planned to go in in the second half of September so as to avoid the works too.....
Fahrplanfelder PDFs aren't updated as a matter of course, so I'm not surprised they haven't been. The fallback is for the authorities to sate "consult on line timetables"


Re: Chur - Arosa

gordonwis
 

On Thursday, 22 August 2019, 22:45:44 BST, glenn allen via Groups.Io <glenn_rhb=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It would be possible to install new tracks over the SBB lines after they’ve got out of the station area. Again, a question of cost.
As Markus says, Arosa works perfectly well without through services, so spending huge sums to create something is a low priority, there are more important things for money to be spent on in Graubunden I think


Slow up Emmental 8 Sep

gbgen <gbgen@...>
 

8. September 2019 the following 2 train formations are planned:
Elektrolokomotive Be 4/4 Nr. 102, Personenwagen Bi und ABDi, Gepäckwagen K2, Flachwagen S4t (typähnlich)
Dampflokomotive Eb 3/5 Nr. 5810, Personenwagen Bi und C2, Gepäckwagen F2

Timetable here:-
http://www.emmentalbahn.ch/images/pdf/Flyer_Slow-Up19.pdf


Bm4/4 18415

David Prior
 

Loco is parked at west end of Basel SBB this morning... anyone know why ? On its way for scrap, or a better life ?


Re: Chur - Arosa

glenn allen
 

My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by insurance.
Would it not be more a question of the logistics of the shunt move from the RhB main lines (track 10) across the SBB lines to the Arosa side. The plan to move the Arosa tracks to a new set of platforms was considered as too expensive.
It would be possible to install new tracks over the SBB lines after they’ve got out of the station area. Again, a question of cost.


Re: RhB loco allocations

glenn allen
 

Is it still possible to obtain a list showing the allocations of RhB locos in service on the day (Lokdienst)? I believe this used to be possible from either the ticket office or the station café/bar at Filisur - is it still available there or anywhere else?
➢ I think it is only available online to members of the RhB insider club

https://www.rhbclub.ch/en


Re: RhB engineering work

Clive Barlow
 

I see now that it the decision was taken some months ago, I just anticipated that the official pdf timetables might be updated. Is it that the timetable from 8th Sept will be exactly the same as that until 7th Sept? Are there any updated pdfs to be found? I deliberately planned to go in in the second half of September so as to avoid the works too.....


Re: RhB loco allocations

Clive Barlow
 

I understand that if you pay to join the RhB Club you have access to this info.

They always used to available from red caps, but red caps seem to be a thing of the past.

Personally I consult the shunters sheets on the trolleys on the main platform at Landquart.

Cheers

Clive


Re: Chur - Arosa

Guerbetaler
 

Am 22.08.2019 um 21:06 schrieb john_dmj:
My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge
tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by
insurance.
It is permitted and can be done/has been done for extra workings. But this only works from Landquart direction to Arosa, not from Disentis or Arosa.

Landquart - Arosa isn't a market. Additionally you would rather take the faster standard gauge train in Landquart to Chur and change there. Standard gauge needs 8 or 9 min, meter gauge 18 or 19 min.

People travelling to Arosa come from Zürich or St. Gallen direction, if not locally from Chur. A few might also come from Thusis, Ilanz oder Lenzerheide direction, maybe also from Klosters, Davos or Scuol. But this doesn't fill trains.

If the train from Scuol continues to Disentis, this isn't to cover a big demand of passengers wishing to travel Scuol - Disentis. It's rather for those from Klosters direction who want to go to Chur, so they can remain seated.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Chur - Arosa

john_dmj
 

My suspicion is that the train would have to cross the standard gauge tracks at Chur, an operation which may not be permitted or covered by insurance.

On 22 August 2019 at 23:29 Toma Bacic <toma.bacic@gmail.com> wrote:


Hello all!
What is the reason, why in post-1997 time, RhB never introduced through
services to Arosa? E.g. Landquart - Arosa, etc...?

regards & thank you
toma

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Chur - Arosa

Toma Bacic
 

Hello all!
What is the reason, why in post-1997 time, RhB never introduced through
services to Arosa? E.g. Landquart - Arosa, etc...?

regards & thank you
toma

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RhB loco allocations

daigog218
 

Hi all,

Is it still possible to obtain a list showing the allocations of RhB locos in service on the day (Lokdienst)? I believe this used to be possible from either the ticket office or the station café/bar at Filisur - is it still available there or anywhere else?

Many thanks

Dave

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