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RhB diagrams 28.10 to 14.12

Martin Baumann
 


Re: Transrail Re 421

csipromo
 

Yes, but in regards to the 5 loks that they have been leasing from SBB-P, how many Re 421 (SBBC) are being used daily on SBB-P EC runs to Lindau or Singen?
If SBBC still had use of those Re421, they would not need most of the SBB-P leases.

The problem is that it is cheaper to lease new loks than to update existing models safety and control systems.

Regards

Mike C


Transrail Re 421

Martin Baumann
 

Transrail have bought 421 387 and 421 393

The vehicle keeper is listed as International Rolling Stock Investment GmbH

and the full numbers are

91 85 4421 387-2 CH-IRSI

91 85 4421 393-0 CH-IRSI

This is a further sign of the mismanagement of the SBB Cargo Fleet. They are scrapping rather than overhauling Re 4/4 II and selling others yet are so short of power for their own trains that they have been leasing up to five SBB-P locos at one time


BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Martin Baumann
 

BLM have ordered three railcars from Stadler. Full details have not yet been released but the contract was made public on 14.09.2019


Re: Kaiseraugst scrap

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.09.2019 um 19:29 schrieb Guerbetaler:
50 85 21-73 396-6 and then it's clear what it was:
a B 21-73 ex Bpm 21-70 ex Bm 21-70 (UIC-Z
The NVR still lists this coach. It's
ex Bpm 51 85 21-70 491-7 ex Bm 51 85 21-70 010

Markus Gürbetal


Re: Kaiseraugst scrap

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.09.2019 um 10:15 schrieb David Prior via Groups.Io:
it revealed itself as ex-Olten
5085 31-73 396-6
Check digit doesn't match for this number (it would be -4), but it matches for 50 85 21-73 396-6 and then it's clear what it was:
a B 21-73 ex Bpm 21-70 ex Bm 21-70 (UIC-Z2)

Markus, Gürbetal


Kaiseraugst scrap

David Prior
 

Had a closer look at the green ex-SBB vehicle outside Thommen this morning for those asking, and under the spray paint it revealed itself as ex-Olten
5085 31-73 396-6


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

David Prior
 

I sent the line-up to another enquirer but not in the group. Photo of the coach is below; it’s 027. The SBB coach second in the line is unidentifiable for graffiti now, it’s then followed by two vans and a tank.

If others would also like updates as the Thommen line changes, I’ll happily provide photos in future as I pass.

David


Re: Ex-Swiss WLABmh 174 query

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.09.2019 um 22:27 schrieb Martin Baumann:
Before SBB they were DSG (DB) 71 80 71-70 809 etc
They got SBB immatriculation in 1988. In older publications they were listed as 71 80 71-40 8.... I'm not sure if they directly became 71-70 or if some of them also worked as 71-80

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Ex-Swiss WLABmh 174 query

Rob V
 

On 15/09/2019 21:27, Martin Baumann wrote:

Before SBB they were DSG (DB) 71 80 71-70 809 etc built by Breda between 1959 and 1963
Thanks to Markus and Martin. That information is very helpful!

Regards,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7


Re: Ex-Swiss WLABmh 174 query

Martin Baumann
 

Before SBB they were DSG (DB) 71 80 71-70 809 etc built by Breda between 1959 and 1963


Re: Ex-Swiss WLABmh 174 query

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.09.2019 um 18:15 schrieb Rob V:
Is anyone able to advise me of the former numbers of 61 85 06-73 002-6 to 004-2?
EA 8/97 published the following message:

RMT: Von den SBB sind 5 Schlafwagen ex DSG übernommen worden, die nun in einem dem klassischen CIWL-Anstrich nachempfundenen Outfit mit dem Schriftzug «Train de Luxe Nostalgie—Istanbul—Orient—Express« oberhalb der Fenster im Einsatz sind. Es handelt sich um folgende Wagen: Nr.
3000 (61 85 06-73 000) ex SBB 71 85 71-70 809
3318 (61 85 06-73 001) ex SBB 71 85 71-70 812
3326 (61 85 06-73 002) ex SBB 71 85 71-70 813
3334 (61 85 06-73 003) ex SBB 71 85 71-70 814
3342 (61 85 06-73 004) ex SBB 71 85 71-70 820

Markus


Ex-Swiss WLABmh 174 query

Rob V
 

Evening all,

Is anyone able to advise me of the former numbers of 61 85 06-73 002-6 to 004-2?

000-8 & 001-6 are listed on https://www.reisezug-wagen.de/wagendatenbank/index.php but the former numbers of the others are not.

002-6 is now listed for sale in Sweden:
<https://auktion.kronofogden.se/auk/w.object?inC=KFM&inA=20190911_1058&inO=3&fbclid=IwAR0K-tt6dlm-vInUan-5X81ZFgsaoMDQw0JjBsPBDFb9DPfUfhSnapBW--g>

Cheers,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

Rob V
 

On 15/09/2019 15:27, Martin Baumann wrote:

I suggest it is either 05-10 019 or 028.
I list 05-10 017 to 024 plus 027 and 028 as still operating but 019 and 028 are now missing from the NVR with all others present
David Prior has kindly told me that one is 027 but the other one's number is not visible under the graffiti.

Cheers,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

Martin Baumann
 

Now confirmed by the UIC group as 05-10 027. This is still in the NVR but it can take several weeks for withdrawn/scrapped coaches to be deleted


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

I suggest it is either 05-10 019 and/or 028 (looks like two SBB coaches next to the Railalpin coach but I may be mistaken)

I list 05-10 017 to 024 plus 027 and 028 as still operating but 019 and 028 are now missing from the NVR with all others present

(https://rollingstockregister.ch/)


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

Guerbetaler
 

Am 14.09.2019 um 08:32 schrieb Thomas:
Looks like a Ralpin Begleitewagen.
The non-air-conditioned ones (51 85 05-10 017...027) should be replaced with MU sleeping cars, if I'm not mistaken.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

Thomas
 

Looks like a Ralpin Begleitewagen.

Rgds, Thomas.

On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 01:57 AM, Rob V

Are the coaches on the left of the image also awaiting scrapping? I'd be
interested to know their identities.

Cheers,
--
Rob


Re: 11166 and 11231 Final Journey

Rob V
 

On 13/09/2019 07:08, David Prior via Groups.Io wrote:

Heavily stripped, these Loks are parked at Kaiseraugst this morning for scrapping at Thommen. Visible from station, main line and road.
BTW 11456 is still visible from the line further east outside Thommen.
Are the coaches on the left of the image also awaiting scrapping? I'd be interested to know their identities.

Cheers,
--
Rob


11166 and 11231 Final Journey

David Prior
 

Heavily stripped, these Loks are parked at Kaiseraugst this morning for scrapping at Thommen. Visible from station, main line and road.
BTW 11456 is still visible from the line further east outside Thommen.

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