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Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Am 04.10.2019 um 00:55 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find
the menue on the left side:
RhB: PE RE IR R EXT
It's also incomplete! Most of the main Albula trains are not listed,
These are IR. I find tehm all...


plus many Landquart - Davos missing
And these are RE :-)

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: RhB coaching stock formations

gordonwis
 

Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the
menue on the left side:

RhB: PE RE IR R EXT
It's also incomplete! Most of the main Albula trains are not listed, plus many Landquart - Davos missing


Re: RhB coaching stock formations

glenn allen
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following

Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the
menue on the left side:
If you right click on the drawings you can save a copy of each vehicle type. NO idea what you would do with them after that. Most vehicles come in a left and right hand version.
NO sign of any oil tankers tacked on the back of St Moritz to Tirano services, I suspect that is because they are not booked workings.


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2019 um 05:01 schrieb Bill Bolton:
IIRC for our visit to Murren last year, the "goods" transport
platform is slung under the cable car body
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Muerrenbahn-01.jpg>


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

gordonwis
 

Virtually all modern trams are modular and each segment can be quite short and lightweight, so each segment might not even be beyond the normal 'tonnage' that can be handled by the cable car facilities, if not then each segment would probably fit on a suitable vehicle and taken up the road


Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following
Another point: PE, RE , IR and EXT are separately listed. You find the menue on the left side:

RhB: PE RE IR R EXT

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: RhB coaching stock formations

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2019 um 17:52 schrieb Martin Baumann:
Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at
<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019>
and the two pages following
Very nicely made. But be aware that they don't distinguish EWI, EWII, EWIII and EWIV. And that Ge 4/4 III may often be replaced by Ge 4/4 II or Allegras.

Markus, Gürbetal


RhB coaching stock formations

Martin Baumann
 

Are now on the vagonWEB.cz site at

https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/razeni.php?zeme=RhB&kategorie=R&rok=2019 and the two pages following


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Bill Bolton
 

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:34 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:

Now, the question is, if the cabin can be taken off to attach heavier goods.
It might then be possible to transport a Tango in 6 portions (3 carbody
segments + 3 bogies) up the hill?

IIRC for our visit to Murren last year, the "goods" transport platform
is slung under the cable car body, and the ground clearance is pretty
generous. So perhaps a carbody section could just be slung under the
(empty) cabin?!?

Cheers,

Bill


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.10.2019 um 16:55 schrieb Chris Wood via Groups.Io:
I assume they would transport the sections separately and assemble
them after arrival. [...] I guess that it is also possible that the
sections would be light enough to contemplate the use of a heavy lift
helicopter.
I wonder if there is still a third possibility. BLM's home page says that the cable car can transport 100 passengers (= 8t) and can transport 6t of goods. It then says, that the maximum weight of the cable car is 26t. 6t + 8t + 12 t = 26t. But what is 12t?

Now, the question is, if the cabin can be taken off to attach heavier goods. It might then be possible to transport a Tango in 6 portions (3 carbody segments + 3 bogies) up the hill?

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: SBB Cargo locos

gordonwis
 

Close ups from my April trip showing the differnce between Swiss ownership (RailCare) and German ownership (SBB Cargo International 193 in 'full Swiss livery')


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

KEMPKENS, Klaus [DE] <klaus.kempkens@...>
 

I know it is quite early, but the interesting question is: how will they get up there ? (as the funicular has been replaced by a ropeway years ago) ?

Klaus Kempkens


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Chris Wood
 

I assume they would transport the sections separately and assemble them after arrival. In which case the transfer may actually be easier than for 31, as that is probably longer than any of the sections of the new units.

I guess that it is also possible that the sections would be light enough to contemplate the use of a heavy lift helicopter.


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Max Wyss
 

Thanks, Krist,

Yeah, that's what I had in mind.


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Krist van Besien
 

It is probably going to be done the same way the Biperlisi got up there.

https://www.jungfrauzeitung.ch/artikel/103371/

It is actually possible (with the right permits and proper vehicle) to drive to Murren in summer. I once came across a team assembling a Pistenbully in Winteregg, and they had several vans and trucks with material they had just driven up there.

You can drive to Wengen in summer as well, by going via Grindelwald and Kleine Scheidegg…

Krist

On Oct 2, 2019, 10:40 +0200, Clive Dean <dixie@dean-family.org>, wrote:
It is going to be interesting to see how they get them up to the railway
line. A member of staff has suggested that they will come up the road that
forms the winter piste down to Lauterbrunnen on the back of some trucks.
However, that road has a number of hairpin bends!



Re: Swisstrain WLABmz type MU question

Rob V
 

On 01/10/2019 21:36, Martin Baumann wrote:

They appear to be owned by railsi now
http://www.railsi.at/shop/shop.php?detail=1264420963
http://www.railsi.at/shop/data/container/Datenblatt-WLABm-UMU.pdf
Thanks, Martin. Much appreciated.

--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Max Wyss
 

This is well possible; there are some very special vehicles around which
can handle such big loads. I believe to remember reading about a similar
transport.


Re: BLM (Lauterbrunnen)

Clive Dean
 

It is going to be interesting to see how they get them up to the railway
line. A member of staff has suggested that they will come up the road that
forms the winter piste down to Lauterbrunnen on the back of some trucks.
However, that road has a number of hairpin bends!


Re: RhB snips

Thomas
 

They plan to use 414 on the historic trains until the end of the season on October 27.

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: Swisstrain WLABmz type MU question

Martin Baumann
 

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