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421 379

Martin Baumann
 

421 379 has been painted in a blue advertising livery "Zürich to Munich 6 times daily in 3 and a half hours"

(That is three in each direction at present)

http://www.sguggiari.ch/4_foto_varie_1.php?veicolo=1437


Re: 11674

Martin Baumann
 

11674 returned to service 10.12.2019 after an R3 overhaul. It is the first Re 6/6 to have a third R3


Re: CEVA aka Léman Express

Thomas
 

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:44 PM, gordonwis wrote:

CEVA opened to regular public service as planned (but with quirks see below)
on Sunday 14 December. I rode the line in mid morning.

Needless to say the SNCF strike ruined the concept on its first day. CFF
worked manfully to operated the service as if it was operating correctly, so,
in order to keep the Swiss side (especially east of Cornavin to Coppet)
working correctly trains between Coppet and Cornavin were labelled (for
example) 'Annecy' but once these reached Chene Bourg they were turned back,
wrecking the platforming regime at Chene Bourg. All 'international' workings
terminated at Annemasse.
On Monday, with way less passengers on the system as the inauguration celebrations had ended, and despite the SBB website maintaining that all services would continue to operate to Chêne-Bourg and half-hourly to Annemasse, they decided to cancel those services which would have turned over at Chêne-Bourg and only operating half-hourly to Annemasse during non-rush hour, instead of running empty trains.

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: RhB Abula Line

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.12.2019 um 23:44 schrieb young_pete2000 via Groups.Io:
Today, December 18th, it looks as if all the Chur - St Moritz
expresses operated in push/pull mode. One of the sets appeared to
have had its First Class Driving Trailer replaced by a Second Class
one.
Motive power was
641 Coop
642 Integral
643 Ems
644 (RhB)
647 (RhB)
3505 (Alvra + 2nd class driving trailer)

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: CEVA aka Léman Express

Guerbetaler
 

Am 19.12.2019 um 02:31 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
Another thing to get used to is that Genève Eaux Vives is now a
purely 'SBB' station with Swiss railway paraphernalia.
In a 1912 contract it was fixed (in art. 7) that the Eaux-Vives - frontier line would become part of SBB "as soon as" the connection between Eaux-Vives and Cornavin would be inaugurated. Construction of the line should start in 1918. Now, finally it was inaugurated, but no sooner than 107 years later...

<https://www.admin.ch/opc/fr/classified-compilation/19120011/index.html>

Markus, Gürbetal


Gornergratbahn new units

Martin Baumann
 

5 ordered from Stadler for 2021

https://tinyurl.com/w6mqzrj

(German press release)


Re: CEVA aka Léman Express

Paul Burkhalter
 

Thank you Gordon. A shame the experience was spoilt by the strike, I wonder if SBB have a standby timetable for this (not uncommon) SNCF event!
Anyway, hopefully you can report on a proper through journey when possible, together with images of SBB trains in hitherto unusual places.
My vision of a circular service around the lake using a reopened Tonkin line (Evian to St Gingolph) remains as a hopeless dream! I note that the main level crossings have now been tarmaced over.
Paul


CEVA aka Léman Express

gordonwis
 

CEVA opened to regular public service as planned (but with quirks see below) on Sunday 14 December. I rode the line in mid morning.

Needless to say the SNCF strike ruined the concept on its first day. CFF worked manfully to operated the service as if it was operating correctly, so, in order to keep the Swiss side (especially east of Cornavin to Coppet) working correctly trains between Coppet and Cornavin were labelled (for example) 'Annecy' but once these reached Chene Bourg they were turned back, wrecking the platforming regime at Chene Bourg. All 'international' workings terminated at Annemasse.

In the bizarre SNCF strike scenario, announcements for French destinations were constantly made at Annemasse in the format: "le train TER numéro xxx à destination de xxx (eg St Gervais) partira de la Gare Routière"

It was announced that a few 'CEVA' trains were planned to run to Evian, and certainly indicators at Annemasse suggested there would be at least one late afternoon.

Notwithstanding, as someone whose interest in European railways was fostered in the 1960s to a large extent by seeing trains in the Annemasse area it was bizarre to hear a pure SNCF style train announcement including local stations and a destination on the CFF main line to Lausanne! Another thing to get used to is that Genève Eaux Vives is now a purely 'SBB' station with Swiss railway paraphernalia.

I also rode the new tram line in Annemasse, now operating as the eastern end of Line 17. To anyone not familiar with the area, CGTE (now TPG) route 12 ran from Moillesulaz frontier to Annemasse until closed in 1958.


RhB Abula Line

young_pete2000
 

Today, December 18th, it looks as if all the Chur - St Moritz expresses operated in push/pull mode. One of the sets appeared to have had its First Class Driving Trailer replaced by a Second Class one.

https://www.schmalspurbahn.ch/filisur/webcam/m191218160108406

Regards,

Young Pete


Re: 474 004

George Raymond
 

derailed at Rheinfelden last night
https://www.20min.ch/schweiz/basel/story/SBB-Cargo-entgleist--Bergung-dauert-an-30160899
Judging from Google Maps, the locomotive seems to have been moving westbound and to have gone off the end of a stub truck northeast of the intersection of Koosfeldstrasse and Breitmattweg. One explanation could be that the locomotive passed a signal at danger and then went through the turnout that keeps trains off the main line in such a case. But someone reading this may have more information.

George


474 004

Martin Baumann
 


Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

John Beaulieu
 

Who did the styling on those beauties, Pininfarina?

John Beaulieu


Re: Engadin inquiry

Martin Baumann
 

These trains are now RE 17xx

for example 11:44 Disentis to Scuol 15:15 RE 1736 which is a Ge 4/4 II (611 class)

Booked power for each train can be found at

https://www.rhb.ch/fr/company/treasure-trove-for-railway-fans/locomotive-allocations


Re: Meter gauge Stadler Electro-Diesels, Diesels and Battery-Electrics

Martin Baumann
 

The two Appenzellerbahn locos were delivered today:

https://www.facebook.com/AppenzellerBahnen/photos/a.183522595063947/2652995111450004/?type=3&theater

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Engadin inquiry

jpnoiville
 

Hello to all
I am planning a March visit on the Engadin line. I believe that the RE 12xx (Disentis-) Landquart - Scuol Tarasp are still loco hauled. Is this right ? Thanks in advance for any information
Best regards
Jean-Philippe

Envoyé de mon iPhone


Re: Today’s gen 12/12/2019

Keith Hookham
 

Many thanks Markus. Yes it was 44. Must remember to make notes and not rely on memory. D’oh.

Cheers Keith.


Re: Today’s gen 12/12/2019

Guerbetaler
 

Am 12.12.2019 um 21:01 schrieb Keith Hookham:
Also noted unit 43 at Gossau. Not sure if it is there for a leak
service or just stored?
43 is in France. This was either 44 or 45. It's stored. AB hasn't yet
decided what it will be: Scrap or Reserve

Frauenfeld - Wil .... do they still have units 16 & 17 as I didn’t
see them or have they been scrapped?
scrapped, both. Some parts have gone to ASM

Also no sign of the units obtained from MVR 7001-7004.
became 511, 513, 512 and MIB 13
509 and 510 are new units
508 was only a middle part but had been used for spares for years. Must be scrapped now. Some units are being modernized and are not on ASM tracks.

Markus, Gürbetal


Today’s gen 12/12/2019

Keith Hookham
 

Sorry but been unit photing for Spotlog & bashing today so not much gen.
However not knowing it was the last day today of the loco hauled service I was lucky enough to do again 456092/094 on 07.39 departure from Luzern. For completeness these are my observations which was purely because I was not aware the other hauled service had finished.

07.39 456092-094 790.4
08.39 526102 790.6
09.39 526105 790.1
10.39 526101 790.5

Bailed at Herisau where I saw Appenzeller Bahn lok 1 in the shed pan down but attached to 2 coaches. Does it still get used? The coaches were however blocking in AB1.
Also noted unit 43 at Gossau. Not sure if it is there for a leak service or just stored?

EC30195 13.02 Zürich - München 421 393.

This afternoon I decided to cover the Frauenfeld - Wil service which have “new” units compared to the last time I was there. Managed to score 7001, 7002 & 7003. There was also one unit in the shed at Wil. Not sure where the other one was. Also do they still have units 16 & 17 as I didn’t see them or have they been scrapped?

After doing the line I headed over to cover the BTI which I have only done once and that was over 10 years ago. This time I only went from Biel as far as Täuffelen and sampled the following. 503, 504, 505, 510, 511, 512 & 513. At Täuffelen in the works were 502 & 509 together with 542 & outside was 523. So no sign of 501, 506, 507 & 508(does 508 exist?). Where would these be stabled? Also no sign of the units obtained from MVR 7001-7004. Or have they been renumber to 510-513? Sorry but my knowledge of the BTI is not very good.

Cheers Keith.


Re: Timetable 2020

Guerbetaler
 

Am 12.12.2019 um 02:38 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
Can't see it there sorry
Still searching the Zugsgattungsliste? Again:

The Zugsgattungslist is part of the PDF
"Die ganze Welt des öffentlichen Verkehrs"
but isn't available in English. Go to
<https://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/de/archiv/erklaerungen.html>
You will get a PDF named "oev.pdf" Go to page 40 of this PDF where the Zuggattungsliste starts.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Last old VAE

David Prior
 

On 12 Dec 2019, at 15:35, Martin Baumann <martin98baumann@...> wrote:
Bahnforum reports that use of the Revvivio sets ends today with the last trains being
2580 15:03 St Gallen-Luzern 17:21
2587 17:39 Luzern-St Gallen 19:56
Went for it today on the assumption it could be the last one (until a substitution?) and if anyone’s interested the full formation, had on 2570 10:03 St.Gallen-Luzern, was :

Luzern end
456 094
50 85 20-35 728-8
50 85 20-35 721-3
50 85 18-35 714-2
50 85 85-35 747-0
50 85 20-35 729-6
50 85 20-35 735-3
50 85 18-35 711-8
456 092
St Gallen end

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