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ÖBB 1016 at Zurich HBF Monday 9th March

adrianknight47@sky.com
 

Heading back from Chur to Basel I took a diversion via Buchs in case the Re6/6 worked back after an appearance on EC164 for a driver retiring last night.

11129 worked EC163 - 08:40 Zurich-Buchs (1116-062/1116-272 took over for the run into Austria.

EC360 arrived into Buchs about 30 late with non Swiss compatible 1016-023 at the helm. 11129 was run-round and topped the driving trailer to Zurich eventually arriving 50 late. For the rtn - EC167, 11109 topped the Taurus back.

11301 worked 12:36 Zurich-Basel.

Ade


Re: 11393

csipromo
 

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 07:27 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727342/
I had never heard that expression about the Fleischmann lok before.

I concur that it appears that the farbtrennkante (dividing line) may be a little lower than on the original locomotives.
It would seem to me that the Swiss Crest on the original TEE loks must have also been placed a little higher, almost nestled under the handrail.

Either way, it still makes for a nice livery to have running around.

Regards

Mike C


Re: 11393

Guerbetaler
 

Am 05.03.2020 um 15:53 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
I guess that since the locomotive no longer is owned by SBB, they could not carry the lettering any more.
I didn't notice that the SBB CFF wasn't there, until you said it...

On the original TEE locomotives the SBB CFF / SBB FFS letters had to be put at a lower position, as the "Farbtrennkannte" (the line, where red and yellow meet) was exactly where the chrome letters on the green locomotives were. For the same reason, the Swiss coat-of-arms had to be put higher up.

Comparing photos of 11393 and 11158-61/11249-53 I think that the Farbtrennkante on 11393 isn't at the original place. Compare the position of the switch for the red lights (where you need a "Vierkantschlüssel")
<https://bahnbilder-von-max.ch/keyword-files/re-4_4-ii-tee.html>
<https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727342/>

On all repainted Cargo locomotives, the chrome letters and digits were taken away. So the 11393 had to be reproduced as I don't think they stored the original digits at Bellinzona...

The different position of SBB CFF / SBB FFS brought a problem for Fleischmann, when they produced a H0 model of the TEE-Lok. The letters were part of the mould and so they decided to put the Farbtrennkante under the letters. Which lead to a description of the "Fleischmann Lok mit heruntergelassener" Hose (= with lowered pants)!
<https://www.mobadaten.info/wiki/Datei:FLM_4341.jpg>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: 11393

csipromo
 

I guess that since the locomotive no longer is owned by SBB, they could not carry the lettering any more.

Here are some nice photos:
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727127/
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727342/

Regards

Mike C


Re: MOB Loco-hauled trains?

Thomas
 

Yesterday two of the five midday trainsets in use were loco-hauled:

6004-118-119-233-225-222 (Mittelpuffer), later returning from Zweisimmen behind 6002
8001-231-251-237-111-112 (Schwab)
152-232-234-6003-223-116 (Mittelpuffer)
9303-252-235-303-9203 (Schwab)
9304-202-107-201-103-9204 (Schwab) as "Belle Epoque"

9302-238-217-9202 (Schwab) returned to Montreux 11:13 with the last early morning Regio pair and was set aside.
9301-Bs-B-9201 (Schwab) was also at Montreux

400x, 101, 102, 106, 110 (Mittelpuffer) at Montreux
214, 228, 305-306 (Mittelpuffer) at Fontanivent
B 203 and Bs 221 (Schwab) at Chernex
8002 (without markings) and a freshly-overhauled unmarked BD returned to Chernex from brake tests on the upper part of the line. These consist of running at 100 km/h on a straight stretch of line and uncoupling the coach from the loco.

Gm 4/4 2004 with snowplow X 11 have been based at Vevey this whole winter.

Rgds, Thomas.


Water transport

Guerbetaler
 

Quite often, peak restaurants are provided with water by rack railways or cableways. But now, also the Alp Grüm restaurant had to be helped by RhB, becuase the pipes leading to the water tank had been destroyed by the snow. As a quick repair under the snow was impossible, RhB now brings up 25 t of water twice a week:

<https://www.rhb.ch/de/blog/weihnachten-auf-alp-gruem-dank-wassertransport-gerettet>
(scroll down for photo of X 9380 and Gem 802)

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: MOB Loco-hauled trains?

Guerbetaler
 

Am 27.02.2020 um 22:49 schrieb Guerbetaler:
fitted with new*Schwab* couplers are
Ge 4/4 8001, 8002, 8004
driving trailer 151 (117 being in Chernex workshop)
According to photos posted on facebook by Agent M, 151-8002-BD-117 are under trials currently, photos from 29 Feb.

<https://www.facebook.com/AgentMob1/posts/3014990928532184>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Re 4/4 II 2020

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

1839 was in my list though incorrectly down as starting at Lausanne, now corrected.


Re: Re 4/4 II 2020

reissr@...
 

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 01:34 AM, David Prior wrote:


At Geneva though, there are three morning arrivals (1904, 1906, 1908), but
only two evening departures (1927, 1929).
Hello,

from Monday to Thursday train 1839 with target Brig leaves Geneva Airport at 21.57 with Re 420 ETCS from 1904
This is the third departure you are looking for.

Regards
Reinhard


Re: Furka

jpnoiville
 

Thanks Keith for the information you posted, even if the translation was not perfect, everyone I believe could get the gist of it and it was very interesting


Re: Furka

walberswick05
 

Seconded. Keith, please continue with your informative posts. They are always of interest.

David


Re: Re 4/4 II 2020

David Prior
 

Hi Martin

A big „thank you“ for working this out and posting. It’s a great and very helpful file.

I noticed that 1839 21:57 Lausanne-Brig is listed, which Reisezüge has listed as a 460 turn.

On looking into the Lake Geneva commuters a bit deeper, at Lausanne we have three trains terminating in a morning (1554, 6056, 6058) and three trains starting in an evening (1571, 6069, 6071). All checks out.

At Geneva though, there are three morning arrivals (1904, 1906, 1908), but only two evening departures (1927, 1929). In the previous TT, the missing evening eastbound Service would have been 1931, but this doesn’t appear to be a valid code any more. I can’t see running an ECS on such a heavily-used route.

Any ideas what us the missing hauled balancing working is ? I haven’t solved it yet ..,

Cheers
David


Re: RhB 17 - 23 Feb

gordonwis
 

Do you take notes of the numbers of any of the stock hauled please?
Bernard
Yes, but not as notes, just as photos of some coaches in some trains


Vectrons in Switzerland

csipromo
 

This expands from a previous topic related to the Hupac Vectron locomotives.

The SBB declined to lease the four locomotives (193 490-494) from Hupac, but has since leased 20 locomotives from Suedleasing.
Does anybody have precise information as to why the SBB rejected the Hupac machines? Was it technical, financial or other?
Has this had any downside for relations between SBBC and Hupac?

I was surprised to see that none of the new (Suedleasing) locomotives inherited the name "Rhein" which was originally given to 193 492 when it carried the "Nightpiercer" livery. It may still come back to life in the second batch (526-535).

This is the list of names associated with the Suedleasing locomotives:
516 Aare
517 Adda
518 Ticino “Ceneri 2020”
519 Adige
520 Diveria
521 Donau (Danube)
522 Elbe
523 Lahn
524 Limmat
525 Rotterdam (Hollandpiercer)

Regards

Mike C


Re: ex SBB Tm at Rupperswil

Martin Baumann
 

405 is confirmed as scrapped. 512 was sold to a so far unknown company in the west of Switzerland


Re: Furka

George Raymond
 

That is ok. I just wont bother next time.
Cheers Keith
Please do bother next time! I found nothing amiss with your post. You warned us it was Google Translate. I took that into account and got the basic information. As always, those who want more can go into the relevant German-language sites and use Google or DeepL to translate as needed.

George


Re: Furka

glyn.jones
 

I must agree with Markus, lovely to have the information, but if you don't
want to check the translation, please put the original up as well, then we
can always do it ourselves.

Glyn


Re: SBB conductor key

Max Wyss
 

In a former life, I worked as a Steward for SSG, and I did get a
positive/negative key.

Max.



Re: SBB conductor key

Guerbetaler
 

Am 28.02.2020 um 23:06 schrieb Max Wyss:
This looks to me like a regular "Berne Key" (the search engines may find
something).
Interestingly the German Wiki article doesn't have an English or a French equivalent. And the picture only has a German caption and even Wikidata doesn't lead anywhere else...
<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vierkantschl%C3%BCssel>

However, there are two forms of the key, one, as depicted with a positive and a negative version, the other one only with the negative one. Usage in railway is quite wide. All doors, windows, panels, switches etc. need this type of key. Railway standard (Berne convention) is 8 mm (slightly tapered for the key).

However, as the Berne key is so widespread, in some places other keys were introduced, especially access to cabs etc.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Furka

Guerbetaler
 

Am 29.02.2020 um 12:32 schrieb Keith Hookham:
Just received the following email from Furka. It may be of interest to you.
Translated via Google.
It's a bit of a pity to send machine translations without editing and removing the worst faults. Not really useful for non-German speakers.

Markus, Gürbetal

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