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Re: Coronavirus

Guerbetaler
 

Am 11.03.2020 um 00:38 schrieb gordonwis via Groups.Io:
his sounds very drastic, did you perhaps mean by 10% rather than to 10%?
It is drastic and I can very well distinguish between "to 10%" and "by 10%". SBB said that patronage within Switzerland has dropped by 10%, to Italy by 90% and to France by 60%. That was yesterday (Tuesday).

<https://www.srf.ch/news/wirtschaft/weniger-lust-aufs-reisen-die-sbb-bekommt-das-coronavirus-zu-spueren>

Meanwhile some international trains have been cancelled. In Ticino some schools will remain closed from tomorrow Thursday on.

More restrictions might come on.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Coronavirus

Martijn Coenen
 

Op 11 mrt. 2020, om 11:27 heeft Thomas <tks71@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

RhB informs passengers that they might be sent back by the Police in Tirano.
On its website, RhB informs passengers that "tourists must remain at the station of Tirano", not that they might be sent back.
It’s a bit implicit:

Aufgrund einer Verordnung der italienischen Behörden dürfen Freizeitreisende in Tirano derzeit nicht einreisen. Touristen müssen im Bahnhof Tirano verbleiben. Wir empfehlen Freizeitreisenden, bereits in Poschiavo, Le Prese, Brusio oder Campocologno auszusteigen.
..dürfen Freizeitreisende in Tirano derzeit nicht einreisen.. Tourists cannot enter Italy. So yes you can stay at the station, no you cannot enter Italy. In essence, that means you will be send back by authorities.

Greetings,
Martijn


Re: Coronavirus

gordonwis
 

On Tuesday, 10 March 2020, 23:33:43 GMT, Guerbetaler <guerbetaler@sunrise.ch> wrote:
SBB and BLS still run all trains but patronage has dropped to about 10%.
This sounds very drastic, did you perhaps mean by 10% rather than to 10%?


11630

Martin Baumann
 

11630 worked EC164 from Buchs to Zürich on Sunday last (8th) This was the driver's retirement run


BLS loco hauled changes

Martin Baumann
 

Schweizer Eisenbahn Revue reports that the EW III sets will be withdrawn by mid 2021, replaced by new FLIRT units.

Some passenger work will remain for 465s when the dual gauge trains Montreux-Interlaken start running, the start date of which is unclear but "by December 2021"


Re: Coronavirus

Thomas
 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 04:33 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


SSIF interrupted international traffic, thus FART trains end in Camedo.
There are still two international services from Domodossola ending at Camedo, operated by SSIF for frontalieri:
- Treno 119 fino a Camedo con trasbordo per Locarno in partenza da Domodossola alle 5.30
- Treno 75 fino a Camedo con trasbordo per Locarno (su treno 181) con partenza da Domodossola alle ore 16.25
- Treno 120 con partenza da Camedo verso Domodossola alle ore 07.24
- Treno 80 con partenza da Camedo verso Domodossola alle ore 18.24 (con trasbordo con il treno delle ore 17.47 proveniente da Locarno)

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: Coronavirus

Thomas
 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 04:33 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


RhB informs passengers that they might be sent back by the Police in Tirano.
On its website, RhB informs passengers that "tourists must remain at the station of Tirano", not that they might be sent back.

Rgds, Thomas.


Coronavirus

Guerbetaler
 

The restrictions in Italy affect railway traffic with Switzerland:

SSIF interrupted international traffic, thus FART trains end in Camedo.

RhB informs passengers that they might be sent back by the Police in Tirano.

SBB and BLS still run all trains but patronage has dropped to about 10%. Persons living in Italy and working in Switzerland are officially allowed to cross the border. Persons wanting to return home would probably be allowed to pass, most other persons not.

Freight traffic volume is drastically reduced.

Within Switzerland there are no travelling restrictions, but elderly people are advised to avoid unnecessary travels.

Any event with more than 1000 persons is prohibited. Many other events have been cancelled too.

People are advised to work at home if possible. For the federal administration it is not possible, that too many persons work at home, because VPN capacity is insufficient... (well done!)

Patronage in public transport has dropped visibly but not drastically.

Public transport companies are officially advised to maintain the offer as far as possible (staff availability) and reasonable (demand).

Markus


ÖBB 1016 at Zurich HBF Monday 9th March

adrianknight47@sky.com
 

Heading back from Chur to Basel I took a diversion via Buchs in case the Re6/6 worked back after an appearance on EC164 for a driver retiring last night.

11129 worked EC163 - 08:40 Zurich-Buchs (1116-062/1116-272 took over for the run into Austria.

EC360 arrived into Buchs about 30 late with non Swiss compatible 1016-023 at the helm. 11129 was run-round and topped the driving trailer to Zurich eventually arriving 50 late. For the rtn - EC167, 11109 topped the Taurus back.

11301 worked 12:36 Zurich-Basel.

Ade


Re: 11393

csipromo
 

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 07:27 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727342/
I had never heard that expression about the Fleischmann lok before.

I concur that it appears that the farbtrennkante (dividing line) may be a little lower than on the original locomotives.
It would seem to me that the Swiss Crest on the original TEE loks must have also been placed a little higher, almost nestled under the handrail.

Either way, it still makes for a nice livery to have running around.

Regards

Mike C


Re: 11393

Guerbetaler
 

Am 05.03.2020 um 15:53 schrieb csipromo via Groups.Io:
I guess that since the locomotive no longer is owned by SBB, they could not carry the lettering any more.
I didn't notice that the SBB CFF wasn't there, until you said it...

On the original TEE locomotives the SBB CFF / SBB FFS letters had to be put at a lower position, as the "Farbtrennkannte" (the line, where red and yellow meet) was exactly where the chrome letters on the green locomotives were. For the same reason, the Swiss coat-of-arms had to be put higher up.

Comparing photos of 11393 and 11158-61/11249-53 I think that the Farbtrennkante on 11393 isn't at the original place. Compare the position of the switch for the red lights (where you need a "Vierkantschlüssel")
<https://bahnbilder-von-max.ch/keyword-files/re-4_4-ii-tee.html>
<https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727342/>

On all repainted Cargo locomotives, the chrome letters and digits were taken away. So the 11393 had to be reproduced as I don't think they stored the original digits at Bellinzona...

The different position of SBB CFF / SBB FFS brought a problem for Fleischmann, when they produced a H0 model of the TEE-Lok. The letters were part of the mould and so they decided to put the Farbtrennkante under the letters. Which lead to a description of the "Fleischmann Lok mit heruntergelassener" Hose (= with lowered pants)!
<https://www.mobadaten.info/wiki/Datei:FLM_4341.jpg>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: 11393

csipromo
 

I guess that since the locomotive no longer is owned by SBB, they could not carry the lettering any more.

Here are some nice photos:
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727127/
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/727342/

Regards

Mike C


Re: MOB Loco-hauled trains?

Thomas
 

Yesterday two of the five midday trainsets in use were loco-hauled:

6004-118-119-233-225-222 (Mittelpuffer), later returning from Zweisimmen behind 6002
8001-231-251-237-111-112 (Schwab)
152-232-234-6003-223-116 (Mittelpuffer)
9303-252-235-303-9203 (Schwab)
9304-202-107-201-103-9204 (Schwab) as "Belle Epoque"

9302-238-217-9202 (Schwab) returned to Montreux 11:13 with the last early morning Regio pair and was set aside.
9301-Bs-B-9201 (Schwab) was also at Montreux

400x, 101, 102, 106, 110 (Mittelpuffer) at Montreux
214, 228, 305-306 (Mittelpuffer) at Fontanivent
B 203 and Bs 221 (Schwab) at Chernex
8002 (without markings) and a freshly-overhauled unmarked BD returned to Chernex from brake tests on the upper part of the line. These consist of running at 100 km/h on a straight stretch of line and uncoupling the coach from the loco.

Gm 4/4 2004 with snowplow X 11 have been based at Vevey this whole winter.

Rgds, Thomas.


Water transport

Guerbetaler
 

Quite often, peak restaurants are provided with water by rack railways or cableways. But now, also the Alp Grüm restaurant had to be helped by RhB, becuase the pipes leading to the water tank had been destroyed by the snow. As a quick repair under the snow was impossible, RhB now brings up 25 t of water twice a week:

<https://www.rhb.ch/de/blog/weihnachten-auf-alp-gruem-dank-wassertransport-gerettet>
(scroll down for photo of X 9380 and Gem 802)

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: MOB Loco-hauled trains?

Guerbetaler
 

Am 27.02.2020 um 22:49 schrieb Guerbetaler:
fitted with new*Schwab* couplers are
Ge 4/4 8001, 8002, 8004
driving trailer 151 (117 being in Chernex workshop)
According to photos posted on facebook by Agent M, 151-8002-BD-117 are under trials currently, photos from 29 Feb.

<https://www.facebook.com/AgentMob1/posts/3014990928532184>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Re 4/4 II 2020

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

1839 was in my list though incorrectly down as starting at Lausanne, now corrected.


Re: Re 4/4 II 2020

reissr@...
 

On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 01:34 AM, David Prior wrote:


At Geneva though, there are three morning arrivals (1904, 1906, 1908), but
only two evening departures (1927, 1929).
Hello,

from Monday to Thursday train 1839 with target Brig leaves Geneva Airport at 21.57 with Re 420 ETCS from 1904
This is the third departure you are looking for.

Regards
Reinhard


Re: Furka

jpnoiville
 

Thanks Keith for the information you posted, even if the translation was not perfect, everyone I believe could get the gist of it and it was very interesting


Re: Furka

walberswick05
 

Seconded. Keith, please continue with your informative posts. They are always of interest.

David


Re: Re 4/4 II 2020

David Prior
 

Hi Martin

A big „thank you“ for working this out and posting. It’s a great and very helpful file.

I noticed that 1839 21:57 Lausanne-Brig is listed, which Reisezüge has listed as a 460 turn.

On looking into the Lake Geneva commuters a bit deeper, at Lausanne we have three trains terminating in a morning (1554, 6056, 6058) and three trains starting in an evening (1571, 6069, 6071). All checks out.

At Geneva though, there are three morning arrivals (1904, 1906, 1908), but only two evening departures (1927, 1929). In the previous TT, the missing evening eastbound Service would have been 1931, but this doesn’t appear to be a valid code any more. I can’t see running an ECS on such a heavily-used route.

Any ideas what us the missing hauled balancing working is ? I haven’t solved it yet ..,

Cheers
David

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