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Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Mick Sasse
 

At the risk of getting a bit off-topic, I think heating generator coaches are quite common in Hungary, though I couldn't comment on what voltage they produce.

Mick

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Re: BVB

Mick Sasse
 

The BVB is indeed a fine little railway, with a large amount of variety within its very modest length: a recommended day out!

Bit of a shame the traditional street boarding outside the mainline CFF station is to be abandoned, but I guess that's inevitable as it's anything but level boarding at present!

Mick


Re: BVB

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.04.2020 um 16:51 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
Speaking of narrow gauge interurban trains, I found this photo on
FLICKR. I have no connection to the photographer. I wonder if the
train driver has to use the horn a lot weaving around narrow streets?
No, he has to drive carefully. It's a very similar situation in Aigle, also with TPC, but a bit narrower.

BTW Bex railway station with its unique track arrangement is currently undergoing heavy rebuilds to become a modern and comfortalbe interchange like Aigle. Pictures like these will no longer be possible:

<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bex_railway_station>

Markus, Gürbetal


BVB

John Lovda
 

Speaking of narrow gauge interurban trains, I found this photo on FLICKR. I have no connection to the photographer. I wonder if the train driver has to use the horn a lot weaving around narrow streets? Another little interesting place to visit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/185213389@N06/49536705666/in/faves-79976134@N07/

John


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.04.2020 um 13:31 schrieb Martin Baumann:
MÁV Historic have bought the following
Do M61 locomotives provide 1000 V ac for the coaches?

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Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

MÁV Historic have bought the following

A 50 85 18-35 712-6
A 50 85 18-35 713-4
A 50 85 18-35 714-2
A 50 85 18-35 716-7
A 50 85 18-35 717-5

B 50 85 20-35 721-3
B 50 85 20-35 725-4
B 50 85 20-35 729-6

B 50 85 20-35 733-8
B 50 85 20-35 734-6
B 50 85 20-35 735-3
B 50 85 20-35 736-1

BR 50 85 85-35 741-3
BR 50 85 85-35 743-9
BR 50 85 85-35 744-7
BR 50 85 85-35 745-4

8 were stored in Wittenbach and 8 in Rorschach. They were collected by DSF BDe 4/4 80 and hauled to Buchs yesterday where MRCE 182 527 took over. The 16 coaches totalled 604 tons and were noted heading towards Hegyshalom on the Ostbahn at 11:15 today

https://bahnbilder.ch/picture/35995


Re: Question about a Photo

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.04.2020 um 04:19 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Today, this photo was posted on rail pictures.net.
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/732768/ It shows a RM (EBT SMB
VHB) consist trailing behind what I presume was the original SUVA
coach (RIC).
Is that the same coach that today belongs to Club Bm 22-70? https://www.schnellzugwagen.ch/assets/images/image008.jpg
yes, new number 56 85 89-70 401-0 CH-CBm

While we are discussing SUVA, what is the current disposition of the
former UIC-Z2 Bpm converted into the second SUVA coach? http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/wheelchair/sbb19990121A.jpg
Kaiseraugst March 2019

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Question about a Photo

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.04.2020 um 21:51 schrieb Guerbetaler:

Am 15.04.2020 um 04:19 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Today, this photo was posted on rail pictures.net.
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/732768/ It shows a RM (EBT SMB
VHB) consist trailing behind what I presume was the original SUVA
coach (RIC).
Is that the same coach that today belongs to Club Bm 22-70? https://www.schnellzugwagen.ch/assets/images/image008.jpg
yes, new number 56 85 89-70 401-0 CH-CBm

While we are discussing SUVA, what is the current disposition of the
former UIC-Z2 Bpm converted into the second SUVA coach? http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/wheelchair/sbb19990121A.jpg
Kaiseraugst March 2019
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Question about a Photo

csipromo
 

Today, this photo was posted on rail pictures.net. https://www.railpictures.net/photo/732768/
It shows a RM (EBT SMB VHB) consist trailing behind what I presume was the original SUVA coach (RIC).

Is that the same coach that today belongs to Club Bm 22-70?
https://www.schnellzugwagen.ch/assets/images/image008.jpg

While we are discussing SUVA, what is the current disposition of the former UIC-Z2 Bpm converted into the second SUVA coach?
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/wheelchair/sbb19990121A.jpg

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB Booklets

glyn.jones
 

At one time the Swiss Railways Society used to give members a free copy with
one of the editions of their magazine "Swiss Express".

Glyn

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Re: SBB Booklets

Guerbetaler
 

Am 13.04.2020 um 12:19 schrieb Martin Baumann:
That was the "Kursbuch für Eisenbahnfreunde" If you put that into
google you can see pictures and further details
I think the last edition was 1991/92. It was followed by an A4 Booklet "Aus der Sicht des Lokomotivführers / Voir avec le mécanicien 1992/93". I think this was discontinued.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: SBB Booklets

Martin Baumann
 

That was the "Kursbuch für Eisenbahnfreunde" If you put that into google you can see pictures and further details


SBB Booklets

stephenhorobin
 

Does anyone remember the free booklets available from SBB stations?
One listed trains you could sit next to the driver.
The other listed historical trains which worked limited mainly freight services.

My best journey next to the driver was over the Loetschberg route in a diverted TEE 'Grey Mouse' from Lausanne to Milano. There had been one heck of a afternoon storm in the Valais. When I finally got back to my hotel I had to bang on the door as the proprietor had gone to bed!

This year would have been my 35th consecutive year of visiting Switzerland I'm hoping that normal travelling will be restored by the end of the year.

Best wishes to all
Steve.


Re: Narrow gauge train by Wohlen

Guerbetaler
 

Am 11.04.2020 um 16:46 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
the rolling stock initially went to the SOB (2 BDe 4/4 and a single
Bt Pilot coach). One BDe 4/4 went to DSF. I am not certain whether
the second one was used for parts or went intact elsewhere. The pilot
coach remained in use by the SOB as BDt 199 until it's withdrawal.
BDe 4/4 2 at DSF is the only surviving. 1 was scrapped 2004, the driving trailer in 2014.

<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/EAV-Triebwagen>

But most of the other vehicles are still there.

B 25 and 26
<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitteleinstiegswagen_(Schweiz,_Normalspur)#Bauart_WM_1948>

Em 2/2 101 and 102
<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG/BBC_Em_2/2>

BDe 4/4 3 ex STB

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Narrow gauge train by Wohlen

Guerbetaler
 

Am 11.04.2020 um 17:14 schrieb Mick Sasse:
the section on to Dietikon is more "interurban" style light rail
... and so was the rolling stock. But BD was the first of the "interurbans" in Switzerland to switch completely to EMU operation. In 1969 they got 9 articulated railcars, all 8 axles motorized!, which could work in MU. That was quite a change.

It's true that FLP introduced articulated railcars in 1968, and FART even in 1959, but they were not able to MU and had coaches added when required.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Narrow gauge train by Wohlen

Mick Sasse
 

It's an interesting line, even if the 3-rail section at the western end is now no more; Bremgarten looks quite an attractive town (I've only been through it on the train!), with a viaduct over the Reuss - the section on to Dietikon is more "interurban" style light rail, following the line of the (rather serpentine!) road closely and with street-running at the Dietikon end.

Mick

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Re: Narrow gauge train by Wohlen

csipromo
 

I remember looking into this when I saw the WM (Wohlen-Meisterschwanden) Triebwagen that Hag used to offer. That part of Switzerland was one that I had not visited when we lived there, so I was unfamiliar with the railroad. The WM and BD at some point merged to form BDWM (Bremgarten-Dietikon-Wohlen-Meisterschwarden Bahn). The line from Dietikon to Bremgarten was narrow gauge. The line from Wohlen to Meisterschwanden was normal gauge.

At some point in the 1990s, the WM line to (Fahrwangen) Meisterschwanden was abandoned (at Villmergen), the rolling stock initially went to the SOB (2 BDe 4/4 and a single Bt Pilot coach). One BDe 4/4 went to DSF. I am not certain whether the second one was used for parts or went intact elsewhere. The pilot coach remained in use by the SOB as BDt 199 until it's withdrawal.

<http://www.eingestellte-bahnen.ch/23011/23032.html>

I remember noting the narrow gauge tracks in Dietikon. That was my only actual experience of this railroad.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Narrow gauge train by Wohlen

John Lovda
 

The pictures from the Aargau Verkehr website are really nice. If I have a off day on my next trip I may stop in Bremgarten. Thanks for all your replies!

John


Re: Driver killed in BLS collision in Germany

Thomas
 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM, Guerbetaler wrote:

When I
answer Gordon's mail, it appears like this:

Am 03.04.2020 um 01:54 schrieb gordonwis via groups.io:
On the group page the correct time & date also appears. That means that it took 6 days for that e-mail to reach the group! It would probably have been faster by postal mail, even under the current circumstances.

What is amazing is the time it took for the mainstream press and the German police to realize that the chunk of bridge which was hit by the train on its journey south could not have come from the new bridge which is even further south from the position where the train and chunk had come to halt, especially given that no chunks of the new bridge were missing and that photographers of the said press were able to stand on that bridge in order to take pictures of the accident site.

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: Driver killed in BLS collision in Germany

Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.04.2020 um 18:55 schrieb Thomas:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 02:42 PM, gordonwis wrote:
Some confusion as to whether
There's really no confusion about the fact
At the time when Gordon wrote his mail, there may still have been some confusion about some facts. Please be aware that mails are not always sent at the moment when you receive them. There may be hours or days between sending and receiving for several reasons. Unfortunately this fact isn't always obvious. If you use a good mail-program, it is possible to distinguish between time sent and time received. When I answer Gordon's mail, it appears like this:

Am 03.04.2020 um 01:54 schrieb gordonwis via groups.io:

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