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Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Toma Bacic
 

In total 23 Revvivo passenger cars were sold (6 A, 11 B and 6 Bistro cars)
to MÁV Nosztalgia Kft.
Approximate value was:
https://www.voralpen-express.ch/fileadmin/images/reiseinfos/Fahrzeugverkaufspreise.pdf

Additional questions - when those cars were manufactured and when were
modernised to Revvivo type?

regards
toma

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Re: BVB

gordonwis
 

On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 20:55:33 BST, John Lovda wrote:
I wonder if the train driver has to use the horn a lot
No. Street railways operate in the same way as urban tramways. No warning sound used unless needed.

I've travelled this line many times. The Bex town street section of the Bex - Villars - Bretaye railway was used by both 'through' trains and a local town service considered as an urban tramway (table 6 in the Swiss Kursbuch was labelled 'Tramway local Bex- Bévieux') with regular service until 2002, using small tram vehicles.


Re: BVB

gordonwis
 

Indeed, more 'boring' new infrastructure - all the 'character' of such things is going as time moves on


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.04.2020 um 00:44 schrieb OL.Guerbetal via groups.io:
And GySEV had bought many Austrian Schlieren coaches. They also go on
1000 V.
... but were rebuilt for 1500 V 50 Hz. (I found a photo on a Hungarian forum, but I don't understand one word from what they write... The photo was posted by a man who's nickname is "RhB"!)

Markus


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 16.04.2020 um 22:45 schrieb Mick Sasse:
I think heating generator coaches are quite common in Hungary, though
I couldn't comment on what voltage they produce.
The standard in 50 Hz countries is 1500 V. Only the 16.7 Hz countries (Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Sweden) have 1000 V. But I think Hungary was partly an exception because of its very early 50 Hz electrification and the traditional connection with Austria. And GySEV had bought many Austrian Schlieren coaches. They also go on 1000 V.

From what I read it could be that the VAE coaches replace Schlieren coaches.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.04.2020 um 00:25 schrieb Martin Baumann:
Only the first two and last two M61 were fitted with electric train
heating, the others retained steam
On recent photos I can only find steam heating pipes.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Martin Baumann
 

Unclear from what I can find via google. Only the first two and last two M61 were fitted with electric train heating, the others retained steam


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Mick Sasse
 

At the risk of getting a bit off-topic, I think heating generator coaches are quite common in Hungary, though I couldn't comment on what voltage they produce.

Mick

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Re: BVB

Mick Sasse
 

The BVB is indeed a fine little railway, with a large amount of variety within its very modest length: a recommended day out!

Bit of a shame the traditional street boarding outside the mainline CFF station is to be abandoned, but I guess that's inevitable as it's anything but level boarding at present!

Mick


Re: BVB

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.04.2020 um 16:51 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
Speaking of narrow gauge interurban trains, I found this photo on
FLICKR. I have no connection to the photographer. I wonder if the
train driver has to use the horn a lot weaving around narrow streets?
No, he has to drive carefully. It's a very similar situation in Aigle, also with TPC, but a bit narrower.

BTW Bex railway station with its unique track arrangement is currently undergoing heavy rebuilds to become a modern and comfortalbe interchange like Aigle. Pictures like these will no longer be possible:

<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bex_railway_station>

Markus, Gürbetal


BVB

John Lovda
 

Speaking of narrow gauge interurban trains, I found this photo on FLICKR. I have no connection to the photographer. I wonder if the train driver has to use the horn a lot weaving around narrow streets? Another little interesting place to visit.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/185213389@N06/49536705666/in/faves-79976134@N07/

John


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.04.2020 um 13:31 schrieb Martin Baumann:
MÁV Historic have bought the following
Do M61 locomotives provide 1000 V ac for the coaches?

Markus, Gürbetal


Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

MÁV Historic have bought the following

A 50 85 18-35 712-6
A 50 85 18-35 713-4
A 50 85 18-35 714-2
A 50 85 18-35 716-7
A 50 85 18-35 717-5

B 50 85 20-35 721-3
B 50 85 20-35 725-4
B 50 85 20-35 729-6

B 50 85 20-35 733-8
B 50 85 20-35 734-6
B 50 85 20-35 735-3
B 50 85 20-35 736-1

BR 50 85 85-35 741-3
BR 50 85 85-35 743-9
BR 50 85 85-35 744-7
BR 50 85 85-35 745-4

8 were stored in Wittenbach and 8 in Rorschach. They were collected by DSF BDe 4/4 80 and hauled to Buchs yesterday where MRCE 182 527 took over. The 16 coaches totalled 604 tons and were noted heading towards Hegyshalom on the Ostbahn at 11:15 today

https://bahnbilder.ch/picture/35995


Re: Question about a Photo

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.04.2020 um 04:19 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Today, this photo was posted on rail pictures.net.
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/732768/ It shows a RM (EBT SMB
VHB) consist trailing behind what I presume was the original SUVA
coach (RIC).
Is that the same coach that today belongs to Club Bm 22-70? https://www.schnellzugwagen.ch/assets/images/image008.jpg
yes, new number 56 85 89-70 401-0 CH-CBm

While we are discussing SUVA, what is the current disposition of the
former UIC-Z2 Bpm converted into the second SUVA coach? http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/wheelchair/sbb19990121A.jpg
Kaiseraugst March 2019

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Question about a Photo

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.04.2020 um 21:51 schrieb Guerbetaler:

Am 15.04.2020 um 04:19 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Today, this photo was posted on rail pictures.net.
https://www.railpictures.net/photo/732768/ It shows a RM (EBT SMB
VHB) consist trailing behind what I presume was the original SUVA
coach (RIC).
Is that the same coach that today belongs to Club Bm 22-70? https://www.schnellzugwagen.ch/assets/images/image008.jpg
yes, new number 56 85 89-70 401-0 CH-CBm

While we are discussing SUVA, what is the current disposition of the
former UIC-Z2 Bpm converted into the second SUVA coach? http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/wheelchair/sbb19990121A.jpg
Kaiseraugst March 2019
Markus, Gürbetal


Question about a Photo

csipromo
 

Today, this photo was posted on rail pictures.net. https://www.railpictures.net/photo/732768/
It shows a RM (EBT SMB VHB) consist trailing behind what I presume was the original SUVA coach (RIC).

Is that the same coach that today belongs to Club Bm 22-70?
https://www.schnellzugwagen.ch/assets/images/image008.jpg

While we are discussing SUVA, what is the current disposition of the former UIC-Z2 Bpm converted into the second SUVA coach?
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/wheelchair/sbb19990121A.jpg

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB Booklets

glyn.jones
 

At one time the Swiss Railways Society used to give members a free copy with
one of the editions of their magazine "Swiss Express".

Glyn

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Re: SBB Booklets

Guerbetaler
 

Am 13.04.2020 um 12:19 schrieb Martin Baumann:
That was the "Kursbuch für Eisenbahnfreunde" If you put that into
google you can see pictures and further details
I think the last edition was 1991/92. It was followed by an A4 Booklet "Aus der Sicht des Lokomotivführers / Voir avec le mécanicien 1992/93". I think this was discontinued.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: SBB Booklets

Martin Baumann
 

That was the "Kursbuch für Eisenbahnfreunde" If you put that into google you can see pictures and further details


SBB Booklets

stephenhorobin
 

Does anyone remember the free booklets available from SBB stations?
One listed trains you could sit next to the driver.
The other listed historical trains which worked limited mainly freight services.

My best journey next to the driver was over the Loetschberg route in a diverted TEE 'Grey Mouse' from Lausanne to Milano. There had been one heck of a afternoon storm in the Valais. When I finally got back to my hotel I had to bang on the door as the proprietor had gone to bed!

This year would have been my 35th consecutive year of visiting Switzerland I'm hoping that normal travelling will be restored by the end of the year.

Best wishes to all
Steve.

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