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Re: Locomotive Appearance Query (Re 4/4II)

Max Wyss
 

It is possible that one of the two is a prototype (11101-11106).

Max




Locomotive Appearance Query (Re 4/4II)

csipromo
 

M Koblischka posted a photo taken from a train passing the Zurich Depot in 1985
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/misc/depot/SBB_Depot_Zurich.jpg

As I looked at the photo, I noticed that the SBB CFF/SBB FFS markings were not at the same height on the two Re 4/4II in the middle of the photo. Both locomotives seem to be from the first series (11101-11155).

Regards

Mike C


Re: Remaining Ee 3/3

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

16362 withdrawn 10.10.2017

16383 still active Chur

16388 withdrawn 02.05.2017

16393 withdrawn 03.04.2018

16406 still active Bellinzona at one end has a FLIRT coupler

16408 (+ 27.03.2019 ) sold to RUMA Wasen in Emmental. Their other loco, 16403, is now stopped with scrap tyres

16410 still active Chur

16430 withdrawn 15.10.2018

16440 withdrawn 18.02.2020. It was being taken from Zürich to St Gallen (unclear if hauled or on its own) when it was stopped at Effretikon with a hotbox.

16447 withdrawn 31.12.2017

16451 withdrawn 01.07.2017

16460 on paper withdrawn 14.08.2019 but had in fact been scrapped at Kaiseraugst in April 2019

16515, the last ex SNCF Ee 3/3 II was withdrawn 18.02.2020. It had been works shunter at Yverdon since 2012

Ee 934 (Ee 3/3 IV)

934 553 and 934 555 are still on the books but stored in Geneva

934 556 is allocated to Basel but only used infrequently


Re: Lötschberg base tunnel reopened

Guerbetaler
 

Am 28.04.2020 um 04:10 schrieb Bill Bolton:
The Lötschberg base tunnel was fully reopened at 17.00
on April 24, after being closed for almost six weeks
Even if it's railway gazette, it's wrong.

LBT wasn't closed for six weeks, only one spur of the double track section. They lost the word "partly" between being and closed.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: FLIRT for BLS

Martin Baumann
 

30 type RE (with catering) will be RABe 528 101 to 130


28 type S-Bahn will be RABe 528 201 to 228


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

Martin Baumann
 

These will be 475 416 to 475 440


Lötschberg base tunnel reopened

Bill Bolton
 

"SWITZERLAND: The Lötschberg base tunnel was fully reopened at 17.00
on April 24, after being closed for almost six weeks because of
significant water ingress in the eastern bore."

See...
<https://www.railwaygazette.com/news/l%C3%B6tschberg-base-tunnel-reopened-after-water-ingress-mitigated/56360.article>


Re: 485 004

csipromo
 

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 11:57 AM, 43096 wrote:


https://rollingstockregister.ch/
Just out of curiosity, what search term did you use to look up the information?
485 004, Re 485 004, same without a space, 33549, 485 004-6, and 91 85 4485 004-6 CH-BLSC yielded no results

Regards

Mike C


Re: 485 004

Guerbetaler
 

Am 26.04.2020 um 11:43 schrieb 43096:
Just been having a look in the Swiss rolling stock register
(https://rollingstockregister.ch/) for something else, and did a
quick search for 485 004, the locomotive involved in the accident at
Auggen recently. The search returned no result, indicating that the
locomotive has, unsurprisingly, been written off.
That's your interpretation. The status of the locomotive is "out of service, registration suspended". Thus it still could be repaired and returned to service. However, I don't think that this will happen. But BLSC has to wait for decisions of insurances etc. before they can formally write off the locomotive.

Markus, Gürbetal


485 004

43096
 

Just been having a look in the Swiss rolling stock register (https://rollingstockregister.ch/) for something else, and did a quick search for 485 004, the locomotive involved in the accident at Auggen recently. The search returned no result, indicating that the locomotive has, unsurprisingly, been written off.


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 23.04.2020 um 20:27 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Gordon, please correct your link
Gordon's link is correct and works fine from my Thunderbird mail program. However, the link isn't displayed cprrectly when reading the message online. The problem is the closing bracket in the link. We can try to enclose the link with < > but I'm not sure if it works. We will see:

<https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einheitswagen_(Schweiz,_Normalspur)>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

csipromo
 

Gordon, please correct your link

Regards

Mike C


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

gordonwis
 

Listed within this:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einheitswagen_(Schweiz,_Normalspur)

[please delete old messages when answering]


New file uploaded to SwissRail@groups.io

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List of all Revvivo carriages and other vehicles for VAE

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Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

Martin Baumann
 

193 530 is PO (river in Italy)

193 531 is REUSS

193 534 just delivered is works number 22742


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 18.04.2020 um 09:21 schrieb Andrew Moglestue via groups.io:
The Schlieren coaches are with GySev.
MAV Nostalgia also has some. First class!
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Apz_17-36_002-3_MAV_Nosztalgia.jpg>

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Andrew Moglestue
 

Just my 5 Rappen here.

The Schlieren coaches are with GySev. GySev is not the same as MÁV historic . Furthermore the present GySev Schlieren fleet is all second class and there are no catering vehicles . Thus the Voralpen Express stock discussed is an unlikely replacement . Lastly I was under the impression that GySev has moved beyond its phase of buying everything second hand and now has the means to buy new rolling stock, for example the new Flirts they are presently getting.

If I may propose my own theory,MÁV discontinued all on-train catering some years ago with the exception of a small number of international WRs . Today there is talk of bringing some back. For example last year during the summer months there was a WR on the Balaton Express, actually, if I was informed correctly , loaned by MÁV historic . They didn’t serve full meals but more ice cream, beer, hotdogs and burgers. Which I suppose is what Balaton tourists want to eat and drink. So maybe a full WR was an overkill . If this is to become a more permanent feature they need more suitable catering vehicles for which the Voralpen cars are suitable in my opinion . As this is obviously a seasonal service . Hardly anybody goes to the balaton outside the summer season. Thus new vehicles cannot be justified . So this is maybe a solution. Just my personal theory of course . I have no proof for any of this .


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.04.2020 um 11:49 schrieb Toma Bacic:
In total 23 Revvivo passenger cars were sold (6 A, 11 B and 6 Bistro cars)
With 2 A and 2 B sold to France, this would leave SOB with 1 BR and 3 B, but currently 4 B are still in use.

A 50 85 18-35 711-718, 715/718 France
B 50 85 20-35 721-736, 726/730 France
BR 50 85 85-35 741-748, 748 scrapped

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: BVB

Bill Bolton
 

On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 07:51:45 -0700, John Lovda wrote:

I wonder if the train driver has to use the horn
That's in Bex, and from my experience riding there, the answer is no!


Re: Voralpen Express coaches sold to Hungary

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.04.2020 um 11:49 schrieb Toma Bacic:
Additional questions - when those cars were manufactured and when
were modernised to Revvivo type?
Original delivery of these coaches was 1956 until 1965 and rebuild was 1997-2000, with a prototype, meanwhile scrapped, arriving in 1995. All except four BR 741-744 were ex SBB B EW I. BR 741-744 were ex BT AB 251-254 of 1964. Detailed list will follow. B 735-736 didn't get new bogies. A total of 32 Revvivos were built. 4 are still in use with SOB.

Markus, Gürbetal

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