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Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

stephenhorobin
 

I have an album on Flickr of Helvetia Charters tour to the KWO power station in 2009.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/22097570@N05/albums/72157617254409503
Steve.


RhB special trains 10-18 October Erlebnistage Landwasserviadukt

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Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

gordonwis
 

On Saturday, 19 September 2020, 15:50:26 BST, George Raymond <geor@bluewin.ch> wrote:
Among the tourists who ride the Zentralbahn between Interlaken and Luzern, I imagine that very few stop in Meiringen for the side trip to Innertkirchen. Maybe this merger will make marketing the line easier.
George, a few years ago I would have agreed with you but watching another Swiss travel forum frequented by overseas visitors proves that Aareschlucht is one of the top requests (and so is Gelmerbahn in fact), so the area is not the 'back of beyond' it once was for long haul tourists.


Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

Guerbetaler
 

zb will study the necessary adaptations to feed the MIB catenary with 15 kV. It is hoped that this can be done with normal maintenance and without high costs. Nevertheless it will take some years to realise it. Thus the recently purchased ex-MVR-GTW will continue to serve the line.

A possible Grimsel railway would also require a change of voltage. But the Grimsel project is still far away. It hasn't been included in the 2035 extension investments (STEP 2035).

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

Mick Sasse
 

... and maybe pave the way for the long-talked-about extension on over the Grimsel pass.

Remember by the way that the ZB and MIB are currently different voltages, mind, so either dual-system or conversion will be needed to run through Interlaken - Innertkirchen.


Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

csipromo
 

I would presume that the eventual offering will include that the regional trains that were running between Interlaken Ost and Meiringen will now be extended to Innertkirchen.
I presume that passengers coming from Luzern (Bruenig) who wish to travel to Innertkirchen will still have to change trains at Meiringen.
In order for the Grimsel base tunnel project to come to fruition, the incorporation of this segment of the route is an essential piece of the new network, which will eventually connect the Golden Pass route to the Glacier Express and the Matterhorn-Gotthard Railway.
Does anybody have any information on latest developments with this project. Most of my info dates back to discussions with friends in the Brienz area in summer 2019.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 19.09.2020 um 10:47 schrieb stephenhorobin via groups.io:
After talks between the two companies it has been agreed that
Zentralbahn will take over the running of the railway from the 1st
January 2021
In fact Zentralbahn (zb) will buy the assets from KWO (Kraftwerke Oberhasli) and the MIB will thus become a normal part of zb. MIB had been constructed as an industrial siding in 1926 and only became a public railway in 1946. It had only become more important in recent years with the opening of additional stops in the Aareschlucht and the adaptation of the bus timetables, connecting in Innertkirchen instead of Meiringen.

Background for the change is that the person in charge for the MIB left KWO and is now responsible for the rolling stock of the Jungfraubahnen.

KWO will continue to keep the concesssions for several cable transports, among them the famous Handegg - Gelmer funicular with grades of up to 105%.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

Max Wyss
 

Actually, the MIB can be very busy. Remember, it serves the Aare Gorge, which is not accessible by car.

There are talks that after the re-electrification, they can continue the Interlaken - Meiringen local (which currently stays in Meiringen for a good 40 minutes.
 


Re: Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

George Raymond
 

Among the tourists who ride the Zentralbahn between Interlaken and Luzern, I imagine that very few stop in Meiringen for the side trip to Innertkirchen. Maybe this merger will make marketing the line easier.

George


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Re: SBB Cargo locos

Martin Baumann
 

The storage of 11643 has been cancelled and the loco will return to traffic on Monday (21.09)


Zentralbahn take over the MIB (KWO)

stephenhorobin
 

After talks between the two companies it has been agreed that Zentralbahn will take over the running of the railway from the 1st January 2021. The KWO which owns the railway were wanting to off load the railway due to rising cost and regulatory requirements.

https://www.bahnonline.ch/1960/zentralbahn-und-kwo-verhandeln-ueber-verkauf-der-mib/

Steve


Re: (9226) 15:34 TGV Zürich-Basel

csipromo
 

Tres Grande Ventilation?


(9226) 15:34 TGV Zürich-Basel

David Prior
 

11143 plus 4 fresh air EWI/II coaches (9226) ersatz 15:34 TGV Zürich-Basel
20-35 302
20-35 102
18-35 015
82-33 981


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Re: SBB Cargo locos

Martin Baumann
 

11641 11643 11645 were all stopped today


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

Martin Baumann
 

91 85 4 475 420-6 CH-BLSC works number 22866

91 85 4 475 421-4 CH-BLSC works number 22867


Re: SBB Cargo locos

Martin Baumann
 

Next locos to be withdrawn are expected to be 11351 and 11657 though this is not yet confirmed


GGB gift

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A short notice trip to take advantage of the free ticket offered by the Gornergratbahn to those whose birthday fell during the lockdown period.

Sunday 13 September
A last minute change of plans due to needing to be in work on Tuesday meant I stayed the night in Domodossola instead of Milano.

11197 19:48 Domodossola-Brig

Monday 14 September
Up early for the 05:58 to Brig, formed of 535s 118+124+110 which was fully loaded with commuters. At Brig 93 was viewed on the 06:48 to Fiesch with 2012 on the 06:52 to Zermatt so took 460073/093 on the 06:48 Romanshorn as far as Brig. There 94 was waiting on the 07:08 to Andermatt whilst I took 2012 to Zermatt. Passed 91, 51 and a unit heading towards Visp and 108 on a freight.

Arrived Zermatt 4 late at 08:18 for a quick dash to the GGB station where I easily acquired my free ticket in time for the 08:24 to Gornergrat with 3052+3082. The train was reasonably loaded and, after an hour at the top, the return at 09:55, with 3081+3051, was practically empty. The two up-bound trains passed on the way down were wedged and standing. Back in Zermatt, there was a huge queue for the train that ran out into the street. Additional trains were also been shown to run, but people were arriving faster than they could deal with them. The weather was glorious but I wouldn't have expected a Monday to be an overly busy day, it must have been even worse before Covid. Best advice is to go early.

Unfortunately another unit, 2021, at 11:13 back to Visp, passing only units until 91 on 12:08 Visp-Zermatt. Then 460074/109 to Bern for 460053 to Basel and home.


Re: Ceneri Base Tunnel

Martin Baumann
 

Sorry, that should be 06:04 Chiasso-Zürich which is train number 10458 until Bellinzona


Re: Ceneri Base Tunnel

Martin Baumann
 

First passenger train ran through the tunnel yesterday (14.09), it was 1458 07:02 Bellinzona-Zürich.

At present random trains will be diverted via the tunnel for test and training purposes

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