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RhB : new shunters 102,103,104

David Prior
 

These three locos are parked together in Landquart station area this evening. I haven’t come across any mention previously - does anyone have the background ?


Re: SBB Cargo "iL" logo

Martin Baumann
 

Is it definite that SBB 035 to 049 were built by Vado Ligure? They have Bombardier works numbers and I would expect then to have 4 digit VL works numbers if built there


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Martin Baumann
 

BLS are in the process of removing the worksplates, crests and names from all remaining locos to prevent theft.


Re: SBB Cargo "iL" logo

csipromo
 

Railcolor.net only provides the date when the locos were accepted by SBBC and the location. It provides the production number, but not the location of production.
It is possible that some of the electronics were developed by ABB Tecnomasio, as they were participating in Bombardier production, but mainly limited to the FS E405, E412, E464, E483 and PKP EU-43 class machines. According to Wikipedia, final production of Bombardier locomotives at Vado Ligure only refers to DC models.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRAXX#TRAXX_F140_AC

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB Cargo "iL" logo

Guerbetaler
 

Am 19.03.2021 um 18:04 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
I was not aware that Re 482 035-049 were built in Vado Ligure, Bombardier's facility which used to be ABB/Tecnomasio.
I got this info from persons who are dealing with locomotive software. Maybe that only the electric gear was produced in Vado Ligure, not the whole locomotive. I will ask when I meet these persons again.

Markus


Re: SBB Cargo "iL" logo

csipromo
 

On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 02:58 PM, John Lovda wrote:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/112648581@N02/50996884120/
John,

I'm guessing that the loco was back in Switzerland for maintenance (Bellinzona most likely) and the photo was taken either on it's way south or on it's way back to Basel. In prior cases, a replacement 482 was loaned to the operator while their leased unit was being serviced and it was then returned and the two locomotives would be exchanged at Basel Bad Bf.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

csipromo
 

If you are looking for a model that fits 1998-2005, the 63847DC/69847AC might be a better fit:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Roco-63847-SBB-Re-10-10/184722599391?

Regards

Mike C


Re: 230 km/h

gordonwis
 

Clive Dean wrote:
I find it surprising that such a train, having stopped in Bellinzona, could actually reach that speed before having to slow down for the normal line speed on the remaining historic line into Lugano.

As soon as a train has passed through Giubiasco, there is plenty of time for a train to accelerate to 230 into the Ceneri IMO


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

tms460
 

On Sunday, 21 March 2021, 07:10:02 CET, csipromo via groups.io <csipromo=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
> Here's a photo of 11672 with 11370 from August 1993, already with halogen headlights and handrail:

Thank you

RegardsTomasz


Re: 230 km/h

George Raymond
 

According to BAHNFORUM trains worked by 501 units are now permitted to run at 230 km/h in the Ceneri Tunnel and the Gotthard Base Tunnel will be authorised soon. This is the fastest passenger speed in Switzerland, the previous limit being 200 on the NBS and in the Gotthard Base Tunnel and Lötschberg Base Tunnel.
Does this affect the number of freight paths?

George


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Re: 230 km/h

Clive Dean
 

I find it surprising that such a train, having stopped in Bellinzona, could actually reach that speed before having to slow down for the normal line speed on the remaining historic line into Lugano.


Re: 230 km/h

csipromo
 

Thanks

MC


Re: 230 km/h

Martin Baumann
 

500 502 503 are all currently 200 maximum. The Bahnforum report was not clear but I think the 230 is just in the tunnel itself.


Re: 230 km/h

csipromo
 

What are the currently permitted speeds for trains worked by RABDe 500 and RABe 503 (ETR610)?
Is the 230 km/h only in the tunnel or on the entire section between Bellizona and the end of the ETCS before Lugano?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

csipromo
 

Here's a photo of 11672 with 11370 from August 1993, already with halogen headlights and handrail:

https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/schweiz~e-loks~re-44-iii-sbb-re-430/685535/11370--11672-wassen-170893.html

This was a few months after it's R1 revision.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

csipromo
 

I found the original Marcel Grand Photo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/159788536@N06/49647783492/in/album-72157713435059196/
Dated July 19, 1991

I also found one from the end of December 1991 (also Marcel Grand)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/159788536@N06/49690436122/in/album-72157713435059196/

Regards

Mike C


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

csipromo
 

Apparently the earlier photo from 1991 was taken on the 32nd of July.

It's always nice to have an extra day ever so often to go take photos of Swiss trains ;)

Mike C


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

csipromo
 

On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 11:25 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


However, I wondered about the date when the photo was taken: 32.02.1994 ????
Must have been a leap, leap, leap, leap, leap, leap year

MC


Re: Re 6/6 11672 SBB

Guerbetaler
 

Am 20.03.2021 um 21:53 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
I am still trying to figure out when it was outfitted with the UIC socket and new handrail, probably either at the R2 in 96 or R3 in 2000.
The 1994 picture you linked clearly shows the UIC socket and handrail. This doesn't leave any other interpretation than that the loco got all modifications in one.

http://www.re620.ch/index.php?Page=bil&gal_nr=92&bil_nr=1

However, I wondered about the date when the photo was taken: 32.02.1994 ????

Markus


230 km/h

Martin Baumann
 

According to BAHNFORUM trains worked by 501 units are now permitted to run at 230 km/h in the Ceneri Tunnel and the Gotthard Base Tunnel will be authorised soon. This is the fastest passenger speed in Switzerland, the previous limit being 200 on the NBS and in the Gotthard Base Tunnel and Lötschberg Base Tunnel.

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