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Re: Re 460 108 Query

Guerbetaler
 

I can't see different reds and support Andrews post;

Am 26.04.2021 um 13:29 schrieb Andrew Moglestue via groups.io:

To me it seems that the different colour is just an artefact of the
light, and the different angle of the painted surface.
The different gray shades of the roof coverings, on the other hand,
may be due to panels having being changed out.


Re: Re 460 108 Query

Ewan Tait
 

On 26 Apr 2021, at 12:29, Andrew Moglestue via groups.io <amogles=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

To me it seems that the different colour is just an artefact of the light, and the different angle of the painted surface.

The different gray shades of the roof coverings, on the other hand, may be due to panels having being changed out.
Andrew, Mike,

The cab roof and the roof panel are quite different colours, and there is definitely a difference the hight of the red between the roof panel and each cab, with one cab lining up and the other not.

These two photos were taken a few days after it came out of Works.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/40826712@N00/31579649070/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/40826712@N00/31143685113/

In the sun, the different shades at one end are quite marked.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/maccookie/49278875421/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/maccookie/24982935278/

Looking at my original photos, I think the issue is that the red hasn’t been painted high enough on one cab. It’s meant to contour over the cab window and then up above the side window and cab door to meet the line running parallel with the grills, but one one end it is straight above the cab window and cab door so doesn’t meet the roof line below the grills.

Looking at a pre-refurb photo, the red was correct above both cabs.

Cheers,
Ewan

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http://ewan.me.uk


Re: Re 460 108 Query

Andrew Moglestue
 

To me it seems that the different colour is just an artefact of the light, and the different angle of the painted surface.

The different gray shades of the roof coverings, on the other hand, may be due to panels having being changed out.

Just my opinion of course.


Re 460 108 Query

csipromo
 

In the photo posted here: https://bahnbilder.ch/picture/40363 there is a difference in the red paint of the main body and the lower edge of the roof section
The paint lines up at the far end but seems offset on the left side (closest).
Would this be a replacement roof or was this some kind of paint error?

The original photo: https://bahnbilder.ch/pictures/original/40363.jpg

Regards

Mike C


Re: New Zurich trams finally ordered

Martin Baumann
 

4009 has been delivered but is not yet in service. Note that both the use of Mirage 1674 and 1675 on peak hour 13s and taht of Tram 2000 cars on the 10 or 12 has finished.


RhB BDe 4/4 491

Martin Baumann
 

This railcar faced an uncertain future following the closure of SEFT but it has now been acquired by the museum at Bergün. It will be moved overnight 27/28 April from Grono to Landquart works by road which require the temporary closure of the San Bernadino tunnel to other traffic. After attention at Landquart 491 will be moved by rail to Bergün at the end of May

https://www.instagram.com/p/CN8znm-HDAp/?igshid=1gxsv51tsesym (German)


Re: Major new order from SBB for Stadler

csipromo
 

I really enjoyed the Sargans to Zurich run in the upper deck on a RABe 511 in 2019.
The last time I had done that a segment of that run was in a RBe 540 in 2004.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Major new order from SBB for Stadler

Martin Baumann
 

Some EWIV are life expired and will be retired.

There are also still 88 of the old RIC coaches (21-73 series now) on the books though I don't know how many are still in daily use.

It is very likely this will see the end of Re 4/4 II passenger trains apart from the LION Sets (Helena start planning the farewell tour :-) )

Around 20 511 are used in Vaud but these are mostly 4 car 511.1

The original 511, 514 and 450 are either too new to be replaced or have just had major overhauls.

http://reisezuege.ch/index.php?action=9&tfah_id=331 will tell you what is currently supposed to be 511 outside the Zürich S-Bahn apart from the Zürich-Aarau RE which are at http://reisezuege.ch/index.php?action=9&tfah_id=413

The Chur trains mentioned are gradually changing to 502


Re: Major new order from SBB for Stadler

csipromo
 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 04:25 PM, Martin Baumann wrote:


https://company.sbb.ch/en/media/media-relations/press-releases/detail.html/2021/4/2104-1
The information posted mentions that 41 of the newly ordered trainsets will replace existing material and the other 19 will be used to offer additional services. What equipment will those 41 be replacing (Re 450 Pendel, RABe 514, original RABe 511 or other)?

The remaining 19 are to be used for additional services in the Zurich and Vaud regions.

How many RABe 511 are in use in regions other than those mentioned?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Major new order from SBB for Stadler

Martin Baumann
 

That is not confirmed but newer FLIRT units have a revised front due to new crash protection norms and this may be the case for these new units.

What will change is the seating layout. The press release says the new units will have a total of 466 seats. The current 511.0 have 120 First Class and 415 Standard seats.

In the current units not on the Zürich S-Bahn (*) this will be altered to provide more room in First and the revised totals will be 104 First and 391 Standard

*: 015 to 030 036 037 038; 014 is not currently Zürich S-Bahn but will transfer there.

https://company.sbb.ch/de/medien/medienstelle/medienmitteilungen/detail.html/2021/4/2104-1 (German)

https://company.sbb.ch/en/media/media-relations/press-releases/detail.html/2021/4/2104-1 (English)

The differences may mean a new class designation, perhaps 512


Re: Major new order from SBB for Stadler

csipromo
 

Will they be delivered with the same appearance as the original models or will the new deliveries have the same type of cab as the BLS version?

Regards

Mike C


Major new order from SBB for Stadler

Martin Baumann
 

SBB have ordered another 60 511 6 car units from Stadler. These will be the Interegio version. The first units are expected to enter service in the December 2023 timetable.

(The order is the exercising of existing options so no tender process was required)


Re: [Swiss Rail] railway rescue cranes Ep. IV - V- VI SBB

tms460
 

Thank you information.

The links below confirms my assumption as there is no railway rescue cranes as such on Swiss rail network.

Only "Bau Groosse Kranes" are used in case of need plus truck mobile ones.






On Thursday, 15 April 2021, 03:37:50 CEST, csipromo via groups.io <csipromo@...> wrote:


There are a couple of photos of cranes at www.railfaneurope.net under http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/work/crane/pix.html and rescue trains at http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/work/rescue/pix.html

I do not see photos of a rescue train with a crane attached.

I found this entry for Hilfszug on Wikipedia. There is a section on the SBB
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfszug_(Eisenbahn)

In case of heavier work, the SBB might request a private company like Vanoli or Sersa come to their assistance with one of their Kirov cranes
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/work/Vanoli/vanoli20021226564.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/work/Vanoli/vanoli20021226587.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/work/Sersa/crane/KRC458-2S_180402-17rp.jpg

Here is a photo of a work train, including a crane used to build bridges. It may be SBB or belong to a private company. It does seem to have SBB markings:
https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/schweiz~e-loks~re-44-ii-sbb-re-420/1191076/bauzug-mit-re-44-ii-11273.html

This might provide more information:
https://www.lokifahrer.ch/Strecken/Intervention/Kranwagen.htm

Regards

Mike C







Re: [Swiss Rail] railway rescue cranes Ep. IV - V- VI SBB

tms460
 

Now it pretty clear that SBB focus mostly on hydraulic equipment foe Habegger but not on railaway rescue trains.
Therefore my SBB model rescue train in H0 will consist of 2 cranes plus rescue train waggons.
1 - Goliath - Trix 23540 - max. payload 150 t.2 - EDK 750 - Roco 43035 - max. payload 125 t.
The rescue train is leased from DB on emergency basis to support SBB rescue teams. :-)


Re: SBB-P Re 4/4 II potential withdrawals

Martin Baumann
 

11134 11135 11155 all officially withdrawn 08.04.2021


SBB/ÖBB NightJet Zürich-Budapest

csipromo
 

Can anybody confirm whether the WSBA (Wagonservice) Couchette coach often seen with this consist since September 2019 is a Bvcmz 248.5 or Bvcmbz 249.1?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128127287@N07/48511767141

Thanks

Mike C


Re: [Swiss Rail] railway rescue cranes Ep. IV - V- VI SBB

Guerbetaler
 

Am 14.04.2021 um 12:24 schrieb tms460 via groups.io:
Could pleae help me with confirmed informations regarding railway rescue cranes in Switzerland

It's worth mentioning that cranes haven't been the first choice of rescue equipment in Switzerland. You can only use a crane after taking away the overhead wire. And you need enough space for a crane to turn. And you need an undamaged track to get near enough to the site.

After a derailment vehicles are rerailed with hydraulic jacks, ropes and come-along (Habegger). If the use of cranes is possible, cranes from work places are taken. The Kirow cranes, standard and narrow gauge, have been seen clearing wreckages. But their normal use is to place points and bridges. Often a road crane comes to help as they can be placed independently from the rails.

The overturned GEX-coaches had been lifted with the SERSA-Kirow-crane from one side and a road crane, brought to the site on a flat car, on the other side.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Guerbetaler
 

Am 15.04.2021 um 10:00 schrieb Clive Dean:
Seems a bit over the top using such powerful locos such as Re465 on the car shuttles, but I guess even these are getting old now!
Don't underestimate the requirements of car shuttle traction. Remember that an RhB Ge 4/4 III is often at the limit bringing a car shuttle to the required speed and the plan is to haul car shuttle train in the Vereina tunnel with a locomotive top and tail.

On the other hand, an Re 465 isn't able to pull more than any other modern locomotive.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Clive Dean
 

Seems a bit over the top using such powerful locos such as Re465 on the car shuttles, but I guess even these are getting old now!


Re: [Swiss Rail] railway rescue cranes Ep. IV - V- VI SBB

csipromo
 

There are a couple of photos of cranes at www.railfaneurope.net under http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/work/crane/pix.html and rescue trains at http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/work/rescue/pix.html

I do not see photos of a rescue train with a crane attached.

I found this entry for Hilfszug on Wikipedia. There is a section on the SBB
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfszug_(Eisenbahn)

In case of heavier work, the SBB might request a private company like Vanoli or Sersa come to their assistance with one of their Kirov cranes
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/work/Vanoli/vanoli20021226564.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/work/Vanoli/vanoli20021226587.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/private/work/Sersa/crane/KRC458-2S_180402-17rp.jpg

Here is a photo of a work train, including a crane used to build bridges. It may be SBB or belong to a private company. It does seem to have SBB markings:
https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/schweiz~e-loks~re-44-ii-sbb-re-420/1191076/bauzug-mit-re-44-ii-11273.html

This might provide more information:
https://www.lokifahrer.ch/Strecken/Intervention/Kranwagen.htm

Regards

Mike C

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