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Re: Question about Eurofima Am and SBB Bpm/B UIC-Z

csipromo
 

So, you would not find coaches with 2007 mixed with ones from 2008 and early/mid 2009?
Would that also be the case for domestic (inland) ICs?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Question about Eurofima Am and SBB Bpm/B UIC-Z

Martin Baumann
 

On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 10:58 PM, csipromo wrote:


What is the maximum time frame between revisions, i.e. what revision dates
could you find in a consist for any given point of time?
For an intenationally approved coach, prefix 51 or 61 it used to be a maximum of one year. I am uncertain if this is still the case.


Re: Question about Eurofima Am and SBB Bpm/B UIC-Z

csipromo
 

Just a quick related question:

What is the maximum time frame between revisions, i.e. what revision dates could you find in a consist for any given point of time?

Regards

Mike C


Re: Question about Eurofima Am and SBB Bpm/B UIC-Z

Guerbetaler
 

Am 06.07.2021 um 02:52 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
While waiting for an Apm Panorama to make my consist a 5 coach EC, which other coaches would be best suited?
When used in EC service they were mostly among themselves. The Zürich - München consist was
Am - Apm - WRm EW IV - Bpm - Bpm - Bpm ...
EC Chur - Germany had 3 Apm, a WRm EW IV and many Bpm.
At that time CIS-liveried coaches were around.
The Am were in their last years of SBB service.

But Apm and Bpm were also used in inland services. At the Gotthard you could see them in a wild mix with EW IV, even EW II, and Bpm ex Bm Z2 and B ex Bpm Z1 plus an Apm Pano in the middle.

St. Gallen - Chur were especially nice consists, e.g.
D EW II - Apm - Bpm - B ex Bpm Z1 - Bpm ex Bm Z2 with an Re 4/4"

Markus


Re: Re 4/4 II Passenger in 2021 timetable

Martin Baumann
 

from yesterday, 05.07.2021 1908 1929 6054 6067 are Re460 pushpull not Re 4/4 II.


Question about Eurofima Am and SBB Bpm/B UIC-Z

csipromo
 

While trying to assemble a consist for a short IC/EC using a few of the new LS Models Apm/Bpm EC 90 coaches, I am trying to figure out which other coaches you could find in a consist for the period 2009-2010, being that the revision dates on my models are 2007 through 2009.

All of my LSM Am Eurofima have revision dates from the 1990s (1992/1993), so are not technically appropriate. I know that these coaches used to run right behind the locomotive on ECs to Munich and on other routes to German destinations where diesel traction was common (e.g. EC Albert Einstein). I also have a number of B RIC (ex-Bpm UIC-Z) and B RIC in either the EWIV or ICN liveries as well.

While waiting for an Apm Panorama to make my consist a 5 coach EC, which other coaches would be best suited?

Nils Bechtiger used to have a website with photos sorted by year, but that is no longer maintained.
I am going to go through my collection to see what I can find, including my Re-Os.nl videos.

In the meantime, any suggestions are appreciated.

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB + CFF markings on EW and RIC coaches

gordonwis
 

csipromo wrote:

I remember still seeing the odd coach with the SBB + CFF / SBB + FFS markings as recently as late 2003/early 2004.
Railfaneurope.net has several photos from 2004: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/EW_I/B/pix.html
Yes I've seen the RailfanEurope shots, the dates would make sense as I was concentrating on France for many years as I knew the most 'interesting' stuff in France was receding slightly faster than in CH. Although I did visit Switzerland and lineside in the early 2000s I didn't do much main line riding so rather missed the end of the classic green and red plastic seat interiors of old logo EWI/IIs.

Having given up on France except for specific things here and there I have majored on Switzerland for every European holiday since about 2009.


Re: SBB + CFF markings on EW and RIC coaches

Guerbetaler
 

Am 04.07.2021 um 21:22 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
I remember still seeing the odd coach with the SBB + CFF / SBB + FFS markings as recently as late 2003/early 2004.
Railfaneurope.net has several photos from 2004: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/EW_I/B/pix.html
Thanks for this. Both coaches shown are of the group without wiring for push-pull.
50 85 20-33 288-5
50 85 20-34 000-3

Markus


Re: SBB + CFF markings on EW and RIC coaches

Martin Baumann
 

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/EW_I/B/pix.html has some pictures showing the original lettering surviving in 2004 on EWI


Re: Bernex Tram [was Re: North-south coridor after Ceneri opening]

Martin Baumann
 

On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:20 AM, Martin Baumann wrote:


The new "Atlas Historique du tramway a Geneve" (Endstation Ostring) gives a
provisional opening date for the line of 04.07.2021
The extension did indeed open to passengers today


Re: SBB + CFF markings on EW and RIC coaches

csipromo
 

I remember still seeing the odd coach with the SBB + CFF / SBB + FFS markings as recently as late 2003/early 2004.
I don't recall seeing any on my most recent trip (2019).

Railfaneurope.net has several photos from 2004: http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/SBB_CFF_FFS/car/EW_I/B/pix.html

EWII were more likely to have been updated, as more coaches were converted to Comfort or Papagei liveries along the way.

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB + CFF markings on EW and RIC coaches

Guerbetaler
 

Am 04.07.2021 um 01:56 schrieb gordonwis via groups.io:
I'm sure this has been covered before but can't find the references. When (and in what volumes) did the last green coaches with the original SBB + CFF style coach side last run in regular service?
This must have been about 1998, when the last light steel coaches were withdrawn. Driving trailers and dining cars got the new logo, but A, AB, B and D remained with the old SBB+CFF and SBB+FFS. However, some luggage vans lingered around until 2001, but not fitted with UIC cable they couldn't be used in normal consists any more.

Markus, Gürbetal


SBB + CFF markings on EW and RIC coaches

gordonwis
 

I'm sure this has been covered before but can't find the references. When (and in what volumes) did the last green coaches with the original SBB + CFF style coach side last run in regular service?


Re: File /RhB/RhB Ge 6_6ii Jun 2021.pdf uploaded #file-notice

David Prior
 

May’s increase in passenger work since the low point in April continues into June. All four remaining examples being diagrammed, including the first passenger work for 707 since 24th March, if these records are correct.

On 29 Jun 2021, at 22:51, main@SwissRail.groups.io Notification <noreply@groups.io> wrote:

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NSB 2257

Martin Baumann
 

After a derailment at Oslo Central Station on 08.05.2019 NSB EI 18 2257 was seriously damaged, the transformer being beyond repair. Since the accident it has been stripped of useful parts and will shortly become the first loco of the "Lok 2000" family to be scrapped.

[SER 7/2021 and https://www6.jernbane.net/bo/subpage.php?s=3&t=31 ]


Re: Blausee-Mitholz, was: Gotthard mountain route

Guerbetaler
 

Am 25.06.2021 um 12:41 schrieb Clive Dean:
In your recent reply Marcus you say that the railway and road are to be kept open but traffic must go via the tunnels, could you clarify, is the old route and the road to be kept  open throughout?
not "via the tunnels", rather "via tunnels"

The road and the railway to Kandersteg must remain open. Short closures during critical operations remain possible. But I haven't yet seen the plans 'how' this protection will be done. If I understood correctly, parts will be covered (tunnels built over the existing route).

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Blausee-Mitholz, was: Gotthard mountain route

Clive Dean
 

In your recent reply Marcus you say that the railway and road are to be kept open but traffic must go via the tunnels, could you clarify, is the old route and the road to be kept  open throughout?


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Status of all Re 6/6 locomotives 24.06.2021


Re: Gotthard mountain route

John Lovda
 

I sincerely apologize. The photo in question was taken in 2016 when the GBT was about to open and was describing some changes out in the future. Sorry.

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