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Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

Martin Baumann
 

Sorry, typo. 12 ordered


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Paul Burkhalter
 

Re: the new narrow gauge platform at Bex….info here: https://tpc.ch/societe/infrastructure/projets/bvb-nouvelle-gare-de-bex/


Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

csipromo
 

How do you get 101-112 for 10 locomotives?

Mike C


Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

davey
 

one of these locos was parked at Basel Badischer Bahnhof last week, with an SBB Cargo Bo-Bo - sorry i do not know which H3 it was


RhB : 705 to Davos tomorrow

David Prior
 

Ge 6/6ii 705 is diagrammed Fri 1/10
4011 05:13 Landquart - Davos Platz
1018 07:30 Davos Platz - Landquart
1327 09:20 Landquart - St Moritz
1342 12:47 St Moritz - Landquart

As far as I can tell, the first timetabled passenger trip for the class into Davos in 2021.

For completeness :
703 shows as allocated 4709/4718 Ilanz mixed trip and 1358 16:47 St Moritz - Landquart
605 Davos - Filisur historic
414 2122 ~08:10 St Moritz-Thusis and later as 2140 ~12:40 to R-Tamins, becoming 2745 to Disentis after reversal


Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.09.2021 um 16:29 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The H3 is a three axle off centre cab design. A-A-A not Co.
On the continent more commonly written as A'AA' (this shows which one is the rigid axle).

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.09.2021 um 02:11 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
I just checked Bex to Col-de-Bretaye (Direction Villars-sur-Ollon).
It looks interesting. Does the train leave from the SBB station?
Yes, a new common platform standard/narrow gauge is under construction, might be in use soon.

Markus


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.09.2021 um 08:49 schrieb Alan McMillan:
That's the Monthey - Champéry line of the AOMC.
There is nothing left of the old AOMC. The line was merged into TPC and meanwhile the rack and the power supply have been standardised. The line now has Abt rack and 1500 V dc instead of Strub rack and 800 V dc.

Markus


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.09.2021 um 02:23 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
While searching Google Maps in the Bex - Monthey area I see a rail
line running from roughly Monthey//Collombey down south to Champéry.
The trains appear to be green (Google photos). Does anyone know about
this line?
Google isn't a great help when it comes to railways. All narrow gauge in the region is TPC. You find a plan of its network here:

https://tpc.ch/horaires-et-plans-tpc-trains-bus-mobichablais/plans-du-reseau/plan-tpc/

The thick light green is TPC meter gauge, black is SBB

Note that the TPC train doesn't go to the SBB station. It's a distance of about 700 m. But all trains from Champéry run through to Aigle.

Markus


SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

Martin Baumann
 

SBB have ten Hybrid locos on order from Alstom.They have been leasing the type from Südleasing since 2017 and it has been operated by both SBB Cargo Deutschland and SBB Cargo in Swtizerland.

The H3 is a three axle off centre cab design. A-A-A not Co.

It has a 475hp diesel motor which is used to charge the traction batteries when they run low. The rating on battery power is also 475hp or 350kw.

The locos weigh 67 tonnes, are 12.800m long and cabable of 100 km/h. The Swiss registred ones will have ETCS.

On lease from Südleasing

90 80 1002 019-0 D-ALS 12.2018 returned 06.2020, now leased to DB and in use at Basel Badischer Bahnhof
98 80 1002 022-4 D-ALS 07.2017
90 80 1002 023-2 D-ALS 07.2017
90 80 1002 025-7 D-ALS 01.2018 returned 01.2021, now leased to METRANS, Leipzig
90 80 1002 035-6 D-ALS 06.2020

The ten on order were originally to be registered in Germany as 90 80 1002 101 to 112 but will now be 98 85 5832 001 to 012

Under the old classification system they would be Ama 3/3 and this designation appears under "type of vehicle (national)" in the rollingstock register


Re: Gais - Altstätten Stadt (was Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.09.2021 um 01:44 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
I was planning on taking this route. There was a great YouTube video
going downhill (southwest direction) in the rack section. You have
now thrown a little wrench into the mix. I did not know the SBB
station and Appenzeller Bahn station are not in the same place. How
far is the distance? Is it hilly, flat? Is there a local bus? Would I
be better off taking a dead end ride to Altstätten from the west and
then head back? Are there any other separated stations in this
region?
You can find the timetables for Altstätten Stadt - Altstätten SG (the railway station) in the online timetables. There is a bus connecting with AB, but if the train is late, the bus is gone. It's possible to wlk the distance but it's about 20 min.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Alan McMillan
 

That's the Monthey - Champéry line of the AOMC.

Alan


Re: Gais - Altstätten Stadt (was Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains)

John Lovda
 

I was planning on taking this route. There was a great YouTube video going downhill (southwest direction) in the rack section. You have now thrown a little wrench into the mix. I did not know the SBB station and Appenzeller Bahn station are not in the same place. How far is the distance? Is it hilly, flat? Is there a local bus? Would I be better off taking a dead end ride to Altstätten from the west and then head back? Are there any other separated stations in this region?

Thanks


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

John Lovda
 

I just checked Bex to Col-de-Bretaye (Direction Villars-sur-Ollon). It looks interesting. Does the train leave from the SBB station?

I believe I was once in Monthey by accident after taking the wrong train from Martigny. The SBB line ended but Google maps shows some railroad tracks continuing north on the west side of the Rhone River. Anything interesting there?

Jogn


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

John Lovda
 

While searching Google Maps in the Bex - Monthey area I see a rail line running from roughly Monthey//Collombey down south to Champéry. The trains appear to be green (Google photos). Does anyone know about this line?

John


Re: RhB motive power

Guerbetaler
 

Am 29.09.2021 um 17:49 schrieb Guerbetaler via groups.io:
Engadin was served by
613-push-pull-1758
3104 (STZ)
515-2418-2413-1716
705 on the freight
603 on local freight (Samedan)
222-353 on an Extra to Scuol and they came back with three freight cars
The Vereina car-shuttles are now with BDt 1721-23 and 1731.
645 was there with an empty shuttle, the two active locomotives can't be seen on the Klosters side, as they don't leave the tunnel.

Using the Filisur webcam together with my sightings I can add some assignments on the Albula:

642, 646 and 648 with Alvras
647 with Alvra seems to have had MU problems 10:30
https://www.schmalspurbahn.ch/filisur/webcam/m210929102915220
and was later replaced by 641 (19:03 up)
3503 and 3504 with EW II and Bt
633, 643, 702, 703 on freights
615, 618 (up) and one more (down) pulling GEX
several ZTZ (Allegra) with BEX

And to repeat the Filisur webcam rule:
Track 1 is down, track 2 is up, track 3 is Davos.
IRs are back at the same place after 6 hours, Filisur is in the middle,
thus 9:00 up, 12:00 down, 15:00 up, 18:00 down should be the same consist, if not exchanged anywhere.

Markus


Re: RhB motive power

Guerbetaler
 

Am 29.09.2021 um 18:52 schrieb Mick Sasse:
would it ever be feasible / practicable for the Davos - Filisur
historic train to use 222 or 353 (or both....!)?
The problem is that 353 and 222 are not fitted with ZSI (the narrow gauge ATP system) and are thus not allowed on regular services. They can only be used in a restricted number of Extras. Otherwise it would be necessary to fit them with ZSI.

Markus


RhB motive power

Guerbetaler
 

The Davos services are now fully deer and the historic train to Filisur has a red locomotive, as one Crocodile is still being repaired. Disentis - Scuol is still fully in the hands of Ge 4/4 II, the Capricorns should take over between Summer 2022 and December 2023. The St. Moritz-Vereina-RE are still a mixture of what is available but mostly Ge 4/4 II. More Capricorns will arrive by December of this year and they will run combined with a Davos train between Klosters and Landquart.

Four push-pull-sets with a bicycle coach are still in service, three are scheduled for Scuol - Pontresina and one for St. Moritz - Landquart. Today there were only two available and the Engadin was served by
613-push-pull-1758
3104 (STZ)
515-2418-2413-1716
705 on the freight
603 on local freight (Samedan)
222-353 on an Extra to Scuol and they came back with three freight cars

The Vereina car-shuttles are now with BDt 1721-23 and 1731.

Markus


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Martin Baumann
 

178 and 186 are confirmed withdrawn


11425

Martin Baumann
 

Ae 6/6 11425 worked NJ 401 between Basl and Zürich HB (arrive 0905) today. This was the driver's last run before retirement and retiring SBB drivers are often allowed to choose special motive power for this.

( https://www.facebook.com/info24SchweizEuropa/photos/a.4261348947249739/4519021881482443/ )

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