Should be that, yes. But this date is not published in Switzerland. Usually it should be the same as "Inbetriebsetzung" SBB list has titles like "Ausrangierungen", but in a vehicle history it is

On Page 53 of the August 2001 Issue of Today's Railways there is an article "New Station for Zurich" about a second underground station at Zurich HB with a 4.5 km. tunnel to Zurich Oerlikon. There

Thanks to all responses on and off board, Generally speaking, I think it would be most useful to use the terminology that is used in locomotive lists (rosters) in books, to see how they compare to

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Eljas P�lh�" <poelhoe@...> It was when SZB and VBW introduced a common numbering-system. SZB numbered their motor coaches as follows: 1.. =

some remarks below - interesting topic! Markus Giger -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Eljas P�lh�" <poelhoe@...> CH-Ablieferung is rather arrival than ex-works. If I say,

Solothurn­Zollikofen­Bern-Bahn Be 4/4 # 28 was renumbered to 61 in 1974. I see no obvious reason for that. They hardly renumbered it to confuse rail enthusiasts, but the real real reason has escaped

Thanks Max and Markus for clarifications. Actually the different terminology should be good news to me, I has to follow railway news in two more languages than before. My editor-in-chief should give

Dear Eljas, you are now touching a very sensitive area of language: different words for the same thing in Austria, Germany and Switzerland. I think I can help you in comparison beween the different

Inbetriebsetzung is kind of the date when the vehicle actually got in service. Abnahme usually means getting the approval by either the authorities, or by the operator; particularly Endabnahme is

Is "Inbetriebsetzung" comparable to "(Neu)Abnahme" in German press? Other approx. similar expressions are at least Endabnahme and Indienst-Stellung. Is Swiss withdrawal (Ausrangierung?) comparable to

perhaps a little bit off-topic, but still related to the RBS steeple cabs: -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Eljas P�lh�" <poelhoe@...> VRS strictly takes the date when a

Thanks again Markus, Deutsche Klein- und Privatbahnen is certainly a reliable source that I should get, I believe it is worth its price (DEM 78 per volume), but there are so many parts in it.... But

There is no reason to doubt that Gerd Wolff/Lothar Riedel in Deutsche Klein- und Privatbahnen have the correct data for the Hagen locomotives. As there is also no doubt, that in 1966 nr. 3 came to

Does anybody have plate readings from VBW/RBS Ge4/4 # 62/112? From photos it looks like it has lost its builders plates during the rebuilding in 1967, but not sure if I have seen both sides of it

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Eljas P�lh�" <poelhoe@...> moved right because the book appeared in 1971 It is Worb (compare with photo #179) but obviousely it was only

Thanks for the help with OJB/RVO. It is quite fascinating to try to list all changes of ownership, classification and numbering on less often reported railways. My next project is RBS and its

continued to help big national good shape. I was lucky enough to see and film B49 on 14 March 1996.It was incorporated in a (very) secondary train, from Zweisimmen to Château- d'Oex and back as

As you may know, the B203-6 series was completely rebuilt in 1995-7. 204, 205,206 are now BDs (2nd class + a large luggage storage space with sliding door). They run regularly in trains pulled by

On BahnCH I asked if somebody knew what really happened in 1992 with OJB (then already RVO) De 4/4 122 ex CFe 4/4 6. Answer in German is below. It says that information of VRS is (as usual) correct.

Merger per 1958-01-01 does *not* mean, it was decided at this date or even effective. It means that all costs and benefits back to this date are brought into the new company. Decisions are usually