Adam,  11161 was 0840 Graz this morning  Voakey

I’ll keep this brief as two others have reported from Switzerland today.
Two more winners, including my very long term bad luck charm 605, on the RhB lokdienst - so that’s where I went again…
Loks below:
cart IC767 10:06 Basel - Zurich
cart IC567 11:38 Zurich - Chur
RhB 605** RE1743 13:02 Chur - Ilanz (to Reichenau Tamins, the Rheinschlucht diagram)
cart S1 Reichenau Tamins - Landquart
RhB 616* 1749 14:17 Landquart - Disentis Muster (to Chur)
cart Chur - Zurich
450022 Zurichich - Rumlang
450005 Rumlang - Zurich
450099* S9 22:08 Zurich - Rumlang

The last 3 moves because I’m staying at the Holiday Inn Express Zurich Airport (effectively Rumlang).

One small thing to note is that Mr Dilworth reported 11161 on IC177. It must have dropped off diagram immediately - as it’s one of 3 I need and IC184 (16:37 dep) was 11143. Hopefully it’ll be out tomorrow!

Adam Daniels.

Well, I got into the spirit of the Euronight and actually slept, especially at Salzburg - so no idea of what gronked us onto NJ466. I was awake before Buchs though, so confirmed the 2 loks on to there - 1116126* and 1016022* (Marudor says the 1116 had been on from Wien). On arrival at Zurich I confirmed that a pair of Re420s had hauled us from Buchs, 11163 and 11181.

Soz, fat fingers.
Try 11193+11181 on my overnight…
Thanks to Davey for pointing that out.

Adam Daniels.

Continuing where I left off yesterday (on EN40462)…

Well, I got into the spirit of the Euronight and actually slept, especially at Salzburg - so no idea of what gronked us onto NJ466. I was awake before Buchs though, so confirmed the 2 loks on to there - 1116126* and 1016022* (Marudor says the 1116 had been on from Wien). On arrival at Zurich I confirmed that a pair of Re420s had hauled us from Buchs, 11163 and 11181.
I’d been looking at the RhB lokdienst so decided that was the plan with 3 winners out.

Off to Landquart on a 511, then into things with:

RhB 612* 1233 10:50 Landquart - Scuol Tarasp (to Klisters)
carts 1034 11:59 Klosters - Landquart
11152 IC921 13:13 Landquart - Chur
RhB 645* IR1145 13:58 Chur - St Moritz (to Filisur)
cart 7836 15:04 Filisur - Davos (to Davos Glaris)
RhB 414* 7835 15:30 Davos Glaris - Filisur
RhB 644 IR1132 16:01 Filisur - Chur
11181 IC934 17:37 Chur - Zurich
460110* IR2280 19:08 Zurich - Basel

I’m staying in the Ibis Basel Bahnhof tonight and had dinner in Bundesbahn - excellent and washed down with a couple of decent beers. And for the first time this trip it’s raining heavily…

Adam Daniels.

I can totally see the logic in this move since the Ge4/4III are more powerful than a II and are used regularly on freight following the demise of the 700s. They have two freight diagrams currently, one of which covers (perhaps deliberately) the freight which from my observations is commonly the longest and heaviest on the Albula line

Thanks for the responses.

In Aug/Sept, 651 / 652 were diagrammed on two alternating freight turns that included the evening 4367 Klosters-Samedan mixed. Which wouldn’t have needed MU and in the summer months possibly heating was not necessary either. And yes, until then it was seemingly welded to the car trains. I guess I can wait a bit longer….

4033 is in service

3045 has been returned to fleet livery

11140 is withdrawn

11276 11293 11305 11359 went to Emmen for scrap on October 8th 2022

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 10:22 PM, Martin Baumann wrote:

2051 went for scrap today. 2051 had been out of service since May with
collision damage

2051 ran into 2405 in the Elizabethenstrasse Depot on May 9th. 2405 did no return to traffic and was scrapped at the end of August.

2033 has also been scrapped

It was previously confined to the car shuttle trains through the Verina tunnel

Am 10.10.2022 um 19:37 schrieb David Prior via groups.io:

The RhB lok. diagrams shows 652 (my last Ge 4/4 III for haulage) with a footnote “Nur Güter einsetzen“.

650-652 haven't yet got the dual brake equipment, allowing to brake a train with air brake and vacuum brake at the same time. But this is necessary for the ALVRA consists when they have a dining car with them.

Thus 650-652 can only pull vacuum braked trains OR air braked trains. The Vereina car shuttles are only air braked trains but they also require MU with the driving trailers 1721-23/1741. If one of these two equipments isn't available, then it's not possible tp push and pull a car shuttle train.

What is left apart from ALVRAs, car shuttle trains and freight trains to be pulled by locomotives are the Disentis - Scuol trains. They are vacuum braked but not normally pulled by Ge 4/4 III. What these trains need but freight trains don't, is energy for heating. So this is the third possibility for a problem with 652.

It seems that they wait until the modernisation of these locomotives is due to resolve the problem. But this can only start when 653 is out.

MArkus

The RhB lok. diagrams shows 652 (my last Ge 4/4 III for haulage) with a footnote “Nur Güter einsetzen“.

Does anyone have insight as to why it would be a freight only loco ? Hope it is only temporary….

11141 IC 483 11.32 Singen-Zürich
460 109 IC 930 15.35 Chur-Zürich (vice unit)
460 074 IR 2276 17.08 Zürich-Basel
617 RE 1240 12.41 Scuol Tarasp-Disentis Muster
619 RE 1736 11.44 Disentis Muster-Scuol Tarasp
633 RE 1744 13.44 Disentis Muster-Scuol Muster

Jon

Obviously North Americans have different terms for these and many things because they decided to shed the English terms that would originally have applied

Also, a term that seems strange in isolation becomes clearer within a
text.

That's the point. When I use "railway shed" for a photo category, then it must be as clear as possible standing alone. In a text about Montbovon railway station I just write "shed".

As someone may have already mentioned, in the US a "trainshed" is (or was) typically a roof covering a number of tracks in a large station. Otherwise a "shed" is typically a little building in your back yard in which you store garden tools and firewood. But the American members of this group are aware that they are in a British/European context here so "shed" is fine.

George


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Am 06.10.2022 um 09:39 schrieb George Raymond:

Also, a term that seems strange in isolation becomes clearer within a text.

That's the point. When I use "railway shed" for a photo category, then it must be as clear as possible standing alone. In a text about Montbovon railway station I just write "shed".

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