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Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

Andy
 

A pure guess, but 802 has been working the Dienstzug to Alp Grüm from the north on a Tuesday morning, so perhaps it's due some maintenance and 801 has been sent to cover...

Andy McM


Re: BLS former 420s

David Prior
 

On 2 Jun 2021, at 15:45, Thomas <tks71@hotmail.com> wrote:
Re 420 503 (ex Travys) belongs to Rhomberg Sersa Rail and is currently replacing MBC's Re 420 506.
Thanks a lot for confirming it’s only a short-term hire, Thomas.

Do I correctly assume 506 is away under inspection/repair, then ?


Re: Stadler Rail in the U.S.

Ken Fischer
 

On May 19, 2021 at 3:30:37 PM, Guerbetaler (guerbetaler@sunrise.ch) wrote:
Tomorrow, May 20, 2021, the Manitou and Pike's Peak Railway will reopen
Thanks for sending this info, and the links to the articles.  I live about 60 minutes drive from the base of this cog-railway; I did not know they were rebuilding it.  

The snow cutter/blower looks very interesting.  I will need to make a trip to ride the train this summer.

Ken


Re: #MGB HGe 4/4 II #mgb

Guerbetaler
 

Am 31.05.2021 um 15:59 schrieb Martin Baumann:
106 should be returned to MGB today
Photo of unloading was shown in BFS. Guess which unexpected colour the locomotive has? yes, all red.

The same truck which brought 106 took 94 to repair.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: SBB Cargo locos

Martin Baumann
 

11178 (420 178)

421 377

421 378

went for scrap at Waldibrücke today 02.06.2021


Re: BLS former 420s

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.06.2021 um 15:45 schrieb Thomas:
Re 420 503 (ex Travys) belongs to Rhomberg Sersa Rail and is
currently replacing MBC's Re 420 506.
... which suffered collision damage and is in repair.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: BLS former 420s

Thomas
 

Re 420 503 (ex Travys) belongs to Rhomberg Sersa Rail and is currently replacing MBC's Re 420 506.

Rgds, Thomas.


BLS former 420s

David Prior
 

I don’t recall seeing posted here before but apologies if duplicate.

420 503 (in weather-beaten Travys red) noted in station area at Morges at the weekend.

Potential spares donor for MBC’s 420 506 ?


Re: #MGB HGe 4/4 II #mgb

Martin Baumann
 

106 should be returned to MGB today, it has departed Bellinzona on a lorry


Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

glenn allen
 

Am 29.05.2021 um 07:25 schrieb tudor erich via groups.io:
3509 is “Z”, and 801 is “S”, which I believe suggests the Gem is
dragged, and not powering. If so, a shame !
Perhaps the other way round on the way back.......
➢ 801 was only booked to work the one train, then remained at Pontresina.


Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

David Prior
 

On 29 May 2021, at 21:15, Guerbetaler <guerbetaler@sunrise.ch> wrote:
Am 29.05.2021 um 07:25 schrieb tudor erich via groups.io:
3509 is “Z”, and 801 is “S”, which I believe suggests the Gem is
dragged, and not powering. If so, a shame !
Perhaps the other way round on the way back.......
Oh, did I miss something? Will 801 immediately return to Poschiavo?
It was diagrammed as a one-way move., dropping off 801 at Pontresina.


Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

Thomas
 

If it's dragged on the way to St. Moritz, what would be the point of returning it to Poschiavo? Probably just a one-way transfer.

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

Guerbetaler
 

Am 29.05.2021 um 07:25 schrieb tudor erich via groups.io:
3509 is “Z”, and 801 is “S”, which I believe suggests the Gem is
dragged, and not powering. If so, a shame !
Perhaps the other way round on the way back.......
Oh, did I miss something? Will 801 immediately return to Poschiavo?

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

tudor erich
 

3509 is “Z”, and 801 is “S”, which I believe suggests the Gem is dragged, and not powering. If so, a shame !
Perhaps the other way round on the way back.......
Bernard


OeBB 207

Martin Baumann
 

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:41 PM, Martin Baumann wrote:


560 000 ex 2100 Onesingen-Balsthal Bahn 207 out of service defective since October 2019
This Railcar went to Kaiseraugst for scrap yesterday. It was hauled from Balsthal by DSF 456 094


Re: RhB : Bernina Gem 4/4 Sat 28th May

David Prior
 

Well, this is a bit of a coincidence, but I note that 801 is diagrammed tomorrow with 3509 on train R4624, 06:28 Poschiavo- St Moritz.

3509 is “Z”, and 801 is “S”, which I believe suggests the Gem is dragged, and not powering. If so, a shame !


Re: BLS Liveries

Alan McMillan
 

When they originally adopted the blue/beige livery, they must have had a colour as there were no trains to compare them to at that moment.
I have to admit, that comment did mystify me a bit. How DO you create a paint colour by comparing to a shade that doesn't exist????

I'm not entirely sure what the modern BLS has told me is gospel. I really don't see why you'd have a manufacturer create a non-standard colour from scratch with all the problems that entails in the matter of future duplication of the shade when there were RAL colours available.

I'm still not sure therefore about the 1976 blue and cream. I have too many photos of it being lighter than the blue of the EWIVs for it to be a coincidence. I know photos, particularly analogue ones, can be tricky when it comes to colour rendering but given the variations available in film emulsions at the time, why does the "lighter" 1976 blue always appear pretty much the same shade no matter where you see it?

Alan


Re: BLS Liveries

gordonwis
 

“No standardised colour definitions or RAL codes were defined for the colours of our standard carriages I and IV. A manufacturer mixed the colours according to our specifications and compared these with the colours on our trains. ..."
That's brilliant fun to hear!

digressing, what is the RAL blue for the SBB NPZ livery?


Re: BLS Liveries

csipromo
 

When they originally adopted the blue/beige livery, they must have had a colour as there were no trains to compare them to at that moment.
Later, when they modified the livery, whether it be internal (Bönigen Shops) or at the manufacturer (RBDe KTU, "Lego" coaches, EW IV pre delivery), they would have had the older coaches to compare.

Regards

Mike C


Re: BLS Liveries

Alan McMillan
 

Even if BLS only had two different shades of blue, the real variety was much more important because of the fading process. You alaways have to take into account, when the last repaint was.
Hi Markus

A postscript to our debate about the potentially different shades of BLS blue as used in the 1976 livery and the EWIVs. I received this helpful reply from the BLS publicity Department which contains a bit of a surprise I have to be honest.

“No standardised colour definitions or RAL codes were defined for the colours of our standard carriages I and IV. A manufacturer mixed the colours according to our specifications and compared these with the colours on our trains. To this day, there exists no standardised colour definition for our standard carriages I and IV.

Nevertheless, I can give you approximate colour definitions and RAL codes. These may deviate from the original, however. These are as follows:

· Blue, approx.: RAL5003

· Beige, approx.: RAL 1013 or RAL 1014 – depending on the age and condition of the paint.”

So there you have it. Straight from the horse’s mouth as they say.

Regards

Alan

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