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Bernina Bahn Festival October 2021 - 25 years of Club 1889

Bill Bolton
 

Health warning - Don't play the linked video unless you have half an
hour to sit mesmerized by high quality moving images of stunning
heritage electric trains in stunning scenery!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BRA5Uk6Mmk


Re: Black Re 420

Ewan Tait
 

Apologies, 465 018 is now in green rather than blue.

https://flic.kr/p/2m8141x

Cheers,
Ewan

--
http://ewan.me.uk


Re: Black Re 420

Ewan Tait
 

465 018 “Flash Fire”, and yes, back in BLS blue https://flic.kr/p/vTJjNS (black) https://flic.kr/p/2hYwitb (blue) Cheers, Ewan -- http://ewan.me.uk


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

I've eliminated all the private Re 6/6 and almost certainly all of the Re 4/4 (420/421/430).
I've eliminated 3 of the 4 Re 446 (EDG). It is not the new livery of the Rhomberg/Sersa machine (420 503).

Somehow, the description of the Swiss crest with leaves sounds vaguely familiar, but I can't nail it down.

The description as having gold framed front windows instead of silver (metal) does not help lead in any direction.

I don't think that it is a WRS machine and I don't think it corresponds to any existing SBB werbelok.

Could it be one of the leased loks being used for Sugar Beet traffic? I have ruled out the IRSI and IGE loks.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Black Re 420

Guerbetaler
 

There was this one many years ago.
Gentlemen, it is interesting what liveries existed, but the question was about a recent sighting.

Markus


Re: Black Re 420

John Whitby
 


Re: New rolling stock for the Rigi

Martin Baumann
 

The first of 6 Bhe 4/6, 41 to 46, was delivered on September 12 and was derailed at Arth Goldau in the process. Only minor damage was done and 41 was able to start testing under its own power the same day. Passenger use is planned from February.

See German page at https://www.rigi.ch/informieren/rigi-projekte/rollmaterialbeschaffung


Re: Black Re 420

Martin Baumann
 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:46 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


There was a locomotive around with a round Swiss flag and some decoration
around it. I don't recall what type of locomotive it was and don't find the
picture any more.
460 015 ? https://tinyurl.com/y9n32wma or possibly ÖBB 1116 075 https://tinyurl.com/j4rtrfmr (both links are flickr)


Re: Black Re 420

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.10.2021 um 15:38 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The only black loco that comes to mind is one of the leased locos
such as 189 991
There was a locomotive around with a round Swiss flag and some decoration around it. I don't recall what type of locomotive it was and don't find the picture any more.

Markus


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

The only black locomotives in the SBB fleet are the leased ES64F4 and some of the ELL Vectron locomotives.
BLS had one of it's Re 465s wrapped in black while leased to RailCare. AFAIK that unit is back in normal colours now.

I wonder if it could be one of the rented machines being used for Sugar Beet traffic.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

Sources suggest that 11602 remains in Sissach and 11601 is in Payerne. 11604 is being used as a parts source by RailAdventure and none of these are in operational condition at the present moment. I could not find any other Re 6/6 (620) having been sold to a private operator or group.
A number of Re 4/4 (420/421/430) have been sold to private operators, the most recent was Re 421 374 sold to Swiss Rail Traffic (SRT) and still in Cargo livery with SRT logo instead of SBBC. Other units went to IRSI (TEE and Rheingold livery) and to WRS (blue livery). 421 379 was sold to a group in Full and remains in the blue Zuerich-Munich livery. DSF acquired Re 4/4II (420) 11173. The information on their website suggests that their plan is to repaint it in green and to restore the original round headlights.
The other change of possession of note was the OeBB acquiring the former SBB 11350 (SOB Re 4/4 41). As far as I know, this unit is still in SBB red.
I have no clue which locomotive it could have been in black. There are a number of foreign locomotives (Traxx, Siemens) currently being used in the Winterthur area for the seasonal Sugar Beet traffic. What used to be a big SBB operation is now handled by a private company leasing machines from various sources, including Eisenbahn Dienstleiter, Sersa, CJ/BLS and Others.

Regards

Mike C


Re: St Gallen Deviation (AB)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.10.2021 um 15:22 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The Appenzellerbahn line from St Gallen towards Gais will be diverted
to a new formation from next Monday, 25th October. This is nearer to
the SBB Goods station.
The line is parallel to the standard gauge St. Gallen - Gossau and Herisau. In fact, the line returns roughly to where it had been in the first years, before the large good shed was built.

https://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=de&topic=ech&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.swisstopo.zeitreihen,ch.bfs.gebaeude_wohnungs_register,ch.bav.haltestellen-oev,ch.swisstopo.swisstlm3d-wanderwege,ch.astra.wanderland-sperrungen_umleitungen&layers_opacity=1,1,1,0.8,0.8&layers_visibility=true,false,false,false,false&layers_timestamp=18901231,,,,&E=2745244.75&N=1253719.34&zoom=9

Markus


502 units on IC1

Martin Baumann
 

Schweizer Eisenbahn Revie reports that from 12.12.2021 ALL IC1 (St Gallen to Geneva Airport) trains will be 502 units. There will be 9 diagrams each consisting of two units


Re: Black Re 420

Martin Baumann
 

The only black loco that comes to mind is one of the leased locos such as 189 991

https://tinyurl.com/yrtfj43r (Flickr)


St Gallen Deviation (AB)

Martin Baumann
 

The Appenzellerbahn line from St Gallen towards Gais will be diverted to a new formation from next Monday, 25th October. This is nearer to the SBB Goods station. Indeed a new halt GÜTERBAHNHOF will open on the deviation, though not until the December timetable change.

Provisional date suggests the line distance will be reduced by 73 metres.

(https://appenzellerbahnen.ch/de/reiseinformationen/streckenunterbrueche-bauprojekte/gueterbahnhof-st-gallen/allgemeine-informationen.html) German


Re: BLS Car Trains 09.10.21

Martin Baumann
 

190 authority to run expires 27.11.2021

178 was the one stopped in June (26th)

175 should have been stopped on the 9th of this month but was seen on a freight in the Basel area on Saturday. The R1 09.10.2015 date, clearly readable in the photograph I saw, had not been altered.


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Thomas
 

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 01:31 AM, John Lovda wrote:

Well, I just returned. The weather in the north was not great. 7-8 degrees C
with off and on rain. I was amazed at the number of people bundled up sitting
outside at bars or coffee shops having drinks.
These people are either smokers, people who'd rather catch a pneumonia than get vaccinate and don't have a Covid Green Pass, or smokers who have refused been vaccinated.

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

11601 (Wolhusen) and 11602 (Morges) were sold to a private operator connected to Swisstrain.(swisstrain.eu). Neither of these units are listed as part of the Swisstrain fleet.
11603 and 11604 were sold to RailAdventure and 11604 is being used as a parts supply for 11603 (91 85 4620 003-4), which has entered service for the private operator.

I don't know if 11601 or 11602 are both still in active use, or whether one is being used as an Ersatzteillager for the other.

Some sites mention that the plan was for 11601 to remain in service and 11602 to be used as a parts supply. The last info that I had was that 11601 was moved from Bellinzona to Sissach in late 2019.

I could not find any new info on re620.ch or any of the sites which would normally update on any changes.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Black Re 420

Hans L.
 

Le samedi 16 octobre 2021, 17:32:25 UTC+2, csipromo a écrit : > Is it a Re 620 or Re 420? Most probably 620 : "a long one!".

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