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Re: 11663

John Lovda
 

Markus:

Were any of the Gottardo 2016 sponsors such as ABB in attendance at your event with all or part of their June 5 & 5 exhibits? I found them very interesting.


BTW, a friend of mine who lives in Greifensee found a white Roco Gottardo 460 locomotive for me at a model train store in Rapperswil. These are very rare now as I assume thousands of Swiss wanted them as souvenirs.


John


Re: 11663

Martin Baumann
 

11601 to 11604 don't have ETCS either.

One loco from the 11640 to 11660 group may get the equipment from 11673


Re: 11663

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 23.06.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
I saw green 11646 running light through Othmarsingen six days ago on 16 June
This is the only other Re 6/6 in green with round headlamps. However, 11640-620060 are not fitted with ETCS.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Sion - Geneve commuter sets (was Re: SBB/SZU/ZB 09.05.16)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 23.06.2016 um 01:29 schrieb Gordon Wiseman:
I now have an answer to my own question a few weeks ago about the
stock used on the M - F commuter trains. The RIC stock used is all in
black white livery.
As an exception to the rule I found today
green B 50 85 21-73 413-9 in IR 2315 Basel-Locarno
Photos available.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: 11663

gordonwis
 

Sounds like good fun.

I saw green 11646 running light through Othmarsingen six days ago on 16 June


Re: 11663

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 23.06.2016 um 18:40 schrieb Martin Baumann:
11663 (green) worked a private charter from Olten to Bellinzona (via
Lenzburg-Wohlen-Arth Goldau) today. The return train ran via the GBT
worked by 460 098. Who chartered the train is unknown.
just returned from a little outing on the Gotthard :-)

The event was some sort of "after-celebration" of Gotthard opening for the staff of the Federal Office of Transport, including some of the former staff of the office.

The train was composed from:
Re 6/6 11663 "Eglisau"
Apm 61 85 10-90 208-2
Apm 61 85 10-90 207-4
Apm 61 85 10-90 213-2
SR 61 85 89-90 100-7
Apm 61 85 10-90 221-5
Apm 61 85 10-90 204-1
Apm 61 85 10-90 217-3

On the way back it was necessary to take an Re 460 with us, as the
Re 620 isn't fitted with 18-pole cable, which is mandatory for the GBT. So the Re 460 098 was put at the rear to provide the necessary security functions. Traction remained at Re 6/6 which was put at the other end.

Apart from that it was a marvellous day and hundreds of school classes had their annual "Schulreise", filling many trains more than usual.

Markus, G�rbetal


Re: 11663

Martin Baumann
 

The train was chartered by the Bundesamt für Verkehr. It looks as if 460 098 failed as the return train (that did run via GBT) was seen near Steinen with the Re 6/6 leading and 460 098 dead on the rear

https://www.flickr.com/photos/131443328@N03/27758872072/


11663

Martin Baumann
 

11663 (green) worked a private charter from Olten to Bellinzona (via Lenzburg-Wohlen-Arth Goldau) today. The return train ran via the GBT worked by 460 098. Who chartered the train is unknown.


Hauenstein Tunnel opening / Closure of the SGB anniversaries

yatton123
 

There is a exhibition by the local history group in Gelterkinden on these themes being held between 15 Aug and 4 Sept. in Gelterkinden. A book will be published in August.
Full details at
www.osgelterkinden.ch


Sion - Geneve commuter sets (was Re: SBB/SZU/ZB 09.05.16)

gordonwis
 

I now have an answer to my own question a few weeks ago about the stock used on the M - F commuter trains.
The RIC stock used is all in black white livery.


Re: TPC (AOMC) open day

gordonwis
 

I was there on Sunday.

514 was running shuttles Aigle - En Chalex, along with new Stadler 542 (still with plastic covering to protect the floor) . 102 and Bt operated the free of charge regular service to Monthey during the morning . I was luckt enough to phot the remining brown Leysin set going off up the street. otherwise nearly everything is now in the insipid green livery that I don't like.


Chemin de fer Bon Repos (was AOMC cars going to Belgium)

Martin Baumann
 

Can you confirm which LEB coach they have? I don't have a record of them getting one. They do have ex BAM B 72 (ex SZB AB 302)


Re: AOMC cars going to Belgium

Christopher
 

In addition, 4 4-wheeled AOMC Box Vans have been sold to the Chemin de fer Bon Repos in France. This is a new metre-gauge preserved line in Brittany, which is re-building a section of the closed Reseau Breton network between Bon Repos and Gouarec, a distance of 4-5km. A carriage from the LEB is also there now.


Club 1889 20th Birthday Events - October 2016

Christopher
 

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Hello, In the past week, Historic RhB has posted details of the Club 1889's 20th Birthday Celebrations. Details of the extensive events planned for the October 15th-16th weekend are available here:
http://www.bahnoldtimer.com/
Basically, all of the locos and rolling stock which the Club has restored/been involved in restoring will be in use on special trains over that weekend: Bernina Line, Pontresina - Ospizio Bernina - Krokodil 182 + La Bucunada and Il Mesolcines 4-wheeled Bernina Bahn coaches, Bernina Bahn railcars 30 and 34 hauling Pullman 'Piano Bar.' Engadine Line, Samedan - S-Chanf - G3/4 11 Heidi and 4-wheeled coaches and post van (now called the Whiskey Bar (!)), Ge4/6 353 and end-platform bogie coaches and Fillisurer Stubli. Albula Line, Samedan - Bergun - Ge6/6I Krokodil and Pullman coaches, ABe 4/4 501 and 'Flying Rhatier' set. All will be involved in an intensive timetable to be run over both days. A day pass, allowing you to have as many rides as you like, and hop-on and off anywhere on each route, will be available. For extra passenger capacity, the Club is attempting to hire-in RhB coaches A2 and AB121 from the Blonay-Chamby. Also, there will be a festival at Samedan station and the RhB workshops there will be open to visitors. Lastly, on Friday October 14th, if enough people register their interest, 2 special day-trips will be run as part of the plan to move stock to Samedan/Pontresina: Poschiavo - Pontresina, presumably to move 182, Landquart - Samedan/St. Moritz, the really exciting option - for me as I will be there over that weekend - as G3/4 11 Heidi will haul historic coaches on a Landquart - Klosters - Davos - Fillisur - Bergun - Preda - Samedan - St. Moritz trip. However, these trips will only happen if enough people show their interest - use the Contact Form on the event's website. Final details on them will be published at the end of July. Chris


Re: New RhB coaches delivered

Don
 

Saw one of the Landquart-St. Moritz workings last week with a new Stadler set as confirmed by the previous posting kindly provided: New RhB Stock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lickeybanker/27206058933/in/dateposted-public/
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Re: Steepest adhesion railway

OL.Guerbetal
 

Am 21.06.2016 um 11:55 schrieb chris_j_wood@yahoo.com [SwissRail]:
[...] However the only rubber tyre system I've ever heard of in Lille
is a VAL (Véhicule Automatique Léger) system. If I'm wrong and the M2
is a VAL or VAL-like system, then my question doesn't arise as there
are no steel wheels or rails involved in that system. Whilst there
are a lot of similarities, VAL cars run on rubber tyres at all times,
and are exclusively guided by horizontal guide-wheels.
The truth is somewhere in between. You are right in that Lille doesnt't have a standard gauge guide rail (an I stand corrected). But then again you are wrong in saying that the VAL /only/ works on rubber tyres as the VAL has a central guide rail for points or switches.

<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ligne_2_du_m%C3%A9tro_de_Lille_M%C3%A9tropole_-_Garage-atelier_du_Grand_But_(06).JPG>

:-)
Markus


Re: Dating major Swiss rail visual changes

Chris Wood
 

12. Thurbo type passenger trains appear

I am presuming that by Thurbo, you actually mean the introduction of the Stadler Flirt and Kiss type
trainsets, the first of which was the new trainsets for the Seetal line and was followed by the Flirts
for local traffic and then the KISS for regional traffic.
I read that reference as being to the Stadler GTW sets, rather than the more recent (and in many ways more conventional) Flirts and Kisses.

The GTW sets are distinguished by having a four-wheeled power unit in or near the middle of the set. It has a walkway through it, but no seats. Whilst (I presume) all the ones built for Switzerland are electric, there are probably more diesel variants world-wide. I rode one from Potsdam to Schönefeld a few years back, and boy was it noisy. Ear-defenders definitely recommended for walking through the power unit.


Re: Steepest adhesion railway

Chris Wood
 

Hi Markus.

When you wrote:

> My point was, that the Lausanne M2 is of the same make as Paris and Lille.

did you perhaps mean to say Paris and Lyon.

I've not visited Lausanne since the M2 opened, but my understanding is that it based on the Paris Metro rubber tyred system, as also used in Lyon and other places. However the only rubber tyre system I've ever heard of in Lille is a VAL (Véhicule Automatique Léger) system.

If I'm wrong and the M2 is a VAL or VAL-like system, then my question doesn't arise as there are no steel wheels or rails involved in that system. Whilst there are a lot of similarities, VAL cars run on rubber tyres at all times, and are exclusively guided by horizontal guide-wheels.



Chris.


Re: Steepest adhesion railway

gordonwis
 

Rode the Lausanne metro two days ago, and watched the pneumatic tyres in operation...


AOMC cars going to Belgium

Martin Baumann
 

AOMC BDe 4/4 512 513 514 have been sold to the Pairi Daiza zoo in Belgium who are building their own metre gauge line:


https://www.facebook.com/JardinDesMondes/

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