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Re: New rolling stock for the Rigi

Martin Baumann
 

The first of 6 Bhe 4/6, 41 to 46, was delivered on September 12 and was derailed at Arth Goldau in the process. Only minor damage was done and 41 was able to start testing under its own power the same day. Passenger use is planned from February.

See German page at https://www.rigi.ch/informieren/rigi-projekte/rollmaterialbeschaffung


Re: Black Re 420

Martin Baumann
 

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:46 PM, Guerbetaler wrote:


There was a locomotive around with a round Swiss flag and some decoration
around it. I don't recall what type of locomotive it was and don't find the
picture any more.
460 015 ? https://tinyurl.com/y9n32wma or possibly ÖBB 1116 075 https://tinyurl.com/j4rtrfmr (both links are flickr)


Re: Black Re 420

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.10.2021 um 15:38 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The only black loco that comes to mind is one of the leased locos
such as 189 991
There was a locomotive around with a round Swiss flag and some decoration around it. I don't recall what type of locomotive it was and don't find the picture any more.

Markus


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

The only black locomotives in the SBB fleet are the leased ES64F4 and some of the ELL Vectron locomotives.
BLS had one of it's Re 465s wrapped in black while leased to RailCare. AFAIK that unit is back in normal colours now.

I wonder if it could be one of the rented machines being used for Sugar Beet traffic.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

Sources suggest that 11602 remains in Sissach and 11601 is in Payerne. 11604 is being used as a parts source by RailAdventure and none of these are in operational condition at the present moment. I could not find any other Re 6/6 (620) having been sold to a private operator or group.
A number of Re 4/4 (420/421/430) have been sold to private operators, the most recent was Re 421 374 sold to Swiss Rail Traffic (SRT) and still in Cargo livery with SRT logo instead of SBBC. Other units went to IRSI (TEE and Rheingold livery) and to WRS (blue livery). 421 379 was sold to a group in Full and remains in the blue Zuerich-Munich livery. DSF acquired Re 4/4II (420) 11173. The information on their website suggests that their plan is to repaint it in green and to restore the original round headlights.
The other change of possession of note was the OeBB acquiring the former SBB 11350 (SOB Re 4/4 41). As far as I know, this unit is still in SBB red.
I have no clue which locomotive it could have been in black. There are a number of foreign locomotives (Traxx, Siemens) currently being used in the Winterthur area for the seasonal Sugar Beet traffic. What used to be a big SBB operation is now handled by a private company leasing machines from various sources, including Eisenbahn Dienstleiter, Sersa, CJ/BLS and Others.

Regards

Mike C


Re: St Gallen Deviation (AB)

Guerbetaler
 

Am 18.10.2021 um 15:22 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The Appenzellerbahn line from St Gallen towards Gais will be diverted
to a new formation from next Monday, 25th October. This is nearer to
the SBB Goods station.
The line is parallel to the standard gauge St. Gallen - Gossau and Herisau. In fact, the line returns roughly to where it had been in the first years, before the large good shed was built.

https://map.geo.admin.ch/?lang=de&topic=ech&bgLayer=ch.swisstopo.pixelkarte-farbe&layers=ch.swisstopo.zeitreihen,ch.bfs.gebaeude_wohnungs_register,ch.bav.haltestellen-oev,ch.swisstopo.swisstlm3d-wanderwege,ch.astra.wanderland-sperrungen_umleitungen&layers_opacity=1,1,1,0.8,0.8&layers_visibility=true,false,false,false,false&layers_timestamp=18901231,,,,&E=2745244.75&N=1253719.34&zoom=9

Markus


502 units on IC1

Martin Baumann
 

Schweizer Eisenbahn Revie reports that from 12.12.2021 ALL IC1 (St Gallen to Geneva Airport) trains will be 502 units. There will be 9 diagrams each consisting of two units


Re: Black Re 420

Martin Baumann
 

The only black loco that comes to mind is one of the leased locos such as 189 991

https://tinyurl.com/yrtfj43r (Flickr)


St Gallen Deviation (AB)

Martin Baumann
 

The Appenzellerbahn line from St Gallen towards Gais will be diverted to a new formation from next Monday, 25th October. This is nearer to the SBB Goods station. Indeed a new halt GÜTERBAHNHOF will open on the deviation, though not until the December timetable change.

Provisional date suggests the line distance will be reduced by 73 metres.

(https://appenzellerbahnen.ch/de/reiseinformationen/streckenunterbrueche-bauprojekte/gueterbahnhof-st-gallen/allgemeine-informationen.html) German


Re: BLS Car Trains 09.10.21

Martin Baumann
 

190 authority to run expires 27.11.2021

178 was the one stopped in June (26th)

175 should have been stopped on the 9th of this month but was seen on a freight in the Basel area on Saturday. The R1 09.10.2015 date, clearly readable in the photograph I saw, had not been altered.


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Thomas
 

On Sat, Oct 16, 2021 at 01:31 AM, John Lovda wrote:

Well, I just returned. The weather in the north was not great. 7-8 degrees C
with off and on rain. I was amazed at the number of people bundled up sitting
outside at bars or coffee shops having drinks.
These people are either smokers, people who'd rather catch a pneumonia than get vaccinate and don't have a Covid Green Pass, or smokers who have refused been vaccinated.

Rgds, Thomas.


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

11601 (Wolhusen) and 11602 (Morges) were sold to a private operator connected to Swisstrain.(swisstrain.eu). Neither of these units are listed as part of the Swisstrain fleet.
11603 and 11604 were sold to RailAdventure and 11604 is being used as a parts supply for 11603 (91 85 4620 003-4), which has entered service for the private operator.

I don't know if 11601 or 11602 are both still in active use, or whether one is being used as an Ersatzteillager for the other.

Some sites mention that the plan was for 11601 to remain in service and 11602 to be used as a parts supply. The last info that I had was that 11601 was moved from Bellinzona to Sissach in late 2019.

I could not find any new info on re620.ch or any of the sites which would normally update on any changes.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Black Re 420

Hans L.
 

Le samedi 16 octobre 2021, 17:32:25 UTC+2, csipromo a écrit : > Is it a Re 620 or Re 420? Most probably 620 : "a long one!".


Re: Landquart - Chur - Ems Werk Freight (Standard Gauge)

Rob Bishop
 

This morning we spent about an hour by the line between Chur West and Felsberg. As well as the passenger trains we saw 703 on the mixed train from Ilanz, and 707 on the freight to Ilanz. Standard gauge freight came in the form of BLS Brownie 175 heading to Ems Werk with containers, and 620-086 coming back towards Chur with tankers. The little standard guage shunter 923-025 ran light engine to Felsberg and back, presumably to shuffle some vans about in the sidings. Thanks for the gen about the freight paths. Rob


Re: BLS Car Trains 09.10.21

davey
 

Thank-you Martin I have 190 down with a death date of June 2021, is it still active? MfG Dave


Re: Black Re 420

csipromo
 

Is it a Re 620 or Re 420?

Regards

Mike C


Black Re 420

Hans L.
 

My son has seen an black Re 620 hauling à cargo train near Winterthur. Front windows had golden frameworks instead aluminium ones. A big swiss flag on the side, circled with leaves. The side was marked "swiss confederation" or something similar. Had somebody hear from or seen it?


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

John Lovda
 

Well, I just returned. The weather in the north was not great. 7-8 degrees C with off and on rain. I was amazed at the number of people bundled up sitting outside at bars or coffee shops having drinks. The weather in the south (Brig, Valais) was much better but still chilly.
I spent a day riding the Appenzeller Bahn starting at Gossau to Urnäsch, Appenzell, Gais, Altstätten. back to Gais and then up to St. Gallen. Beautiful ride especially the rack section near Altstätten. The rack section used older EMUs with pull down windows. The rest of the route used very modern EMUs.

I went down south one day and took the TPC rack train from Bex to Villars. After leaving the Bex station it travels down the main street in town before engaging the rack section. This route was quite steep, much steeper than MGB rack sections. Took the bus down the winding switchback road to Aigle and then took the TPC train to Champery. The initial part of the ride travels through the flat section in the river valley to Monthey but the section south climbing the mountains was closed for construction and travelers had to take the bus. I decided to turn around and return to Aigle. I spent some time train spotting in Spiez and finished the day on the Zentral Bahn to Luzern (another EMU).

Probably the most beautiful trip I took was the bus from Flüelen to Linthal over the Klausen Pass. Continued to Zeigelbrücke and then took an SOB to St. Gallen. This SOB section was new to me and the scenery was lovely. Instead of travelling straight back to Zürich I took the Appenzeller Bahn a second time taking the "U" shaped route to Gossau.

On Sunday I took the RhB from Chur to Pontresina, back up the Engadin Valley to the Vereina Tunnel to Klosters and back to Landquart. There were a few Ge4/4 II and III's with new werbelok colors.

I spend several hours train spotting on Saturday morning at the Brig depot. My "guide" was a fellow train photography enthusiast who lives near Domodossola. He came in on the SImplon car ferry to meet me. The depot is a long way from the main station and we did a lot of driving from one side to the other. The turntable and roundhouse were being renovated and the area was loaded with construction materials. There were only 3-4 locomotives spread out over a wide area.

Physical issues will probably prevent me from returning for another trip like this. However, the bigger issue for me is the change in the railroad system since I started coming in 1994. One; gone are the days of spending hours up close at the Erstfeld and Lausanne depots and seeing a high density of equipment. Second; as perfect as the SBB infrastructure is, it is getting incredibly boring. There are now thirty seven different varieties of the same white EMUs. The SOB, TPC, RhB, AB and Zentral Bahn are just the same except smaller with different colors. The sealed windows are great for viewing but terrible for photography due to glare and reflections. I am lucky to have been around during the "good old days."

Thanks again for all your help.


Re: New Zurich trams finally ordered

Martin Baumann
 

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:54 AM, Martin Baumann wrote:


2311 2414 2416 are out of service but not confirmed as withdrawn
These three cars have returned to service this week.

One Flexity tram can replace two Tram 2000 cars. 4016 was delivered yesterday and 4001 to 4014 are in service

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