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SBB ex SNCF D

Martin Baumann
 

In three batches 1990-2000 SBB bought 41 D 51 87 92-70 from SNCF to work in pushpull trains with EWIV coaches. (Another 7 went to BLS 1990/1991 including one for parts; these were withdrawn in December 2004)

The SBB vehicles were gradually withdrawn until there were only three left this year. 339 recently disappeared from the vehicle register and last Friday 310 and 311 turned up at Kaiseraugst meaning the type is now extinct.

An xls of these vehicles will be in the files section shortly


Re: North-south coridor after Ceneri opening

Martin Baumann
 

Sorry that should be Walchwil (one L) I also forgot the Eppenberg tunnel between Aarau and Olten which will open 13.12 and mean there will be four tracks all the way from Rupperswil to Olten.

https://company.sbb.ch/de/ueber-die-sbb/projekte/projekte-mittelland-tessin/eppenberg.html


Re: North-south coridor after Ceneri opening

Martin Baumann
 

September 4th is the official Ceneri opening, timetable traffic is due to start December 13th

Zug to Arth Goldau is due to re-open on the same date. The new double track section starts at Walchwill station 9+452 and goes to about 11+150 (Zero is Zug station and Arth Goldau is 15+758)

The new Bözberg tunnel is also expected to open 13.12

Also due to open in the next few months:

26.09.2020 deviation through new Boll station on Bern-Worb line (RBS)

October ? LEB new tunnel section at Chauderon in Lausanne

13.12.2020 TPG Geneva tram extension Bernex to Vaiily

I don't think the extensions to the Ceneri and Zimmerberg tunnels have got beyond the proposal stage though with Zimmerberg the Junction layout at the Thalwil end was built with the tunnel so that any new construction can easily be joined to it.


North-south coridor after Ceneri opening

Toma Bacic
 

Hello all!
As the opening of the Ceneri base tunnel is scheduled for September 4, I am interested what infrastructure projects will follow on the north-south corridor.
According to what I learned, the southern extension of Ceneri is planned, but what is the status of that project now? Also, when the opening of the new Bözbergtunnel is planned? Also, what is the status of the southern extension of the Zimmerberg Base Tunnel?
Finally, when the second track between the Zug and Arth-Goldau (the complete section will be doubled or just some parts) will be opened?

Thank you very much and regards
toma

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Re: RhB Ge 6/6 II (701 Class)

Martin Baumann
 

Bahnforum Schweiz suggests 701 will be used as a parts source.

Meanwhile 705 worked 1358 16:47 St Moritz-Landquart yesterday


RhB Ge 6/6 II (701 Class)

Martin Baumann
 

RhB intend that all will be withdrawn by this time next year, with one preserved by the company. The Neue Zürcher Zeitung published a report on the RhB today including their reported travelling on 705 on a freight:

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/zeitenwende-bei-der-rhb-aelteste-loks-der-schweiz-verschwinden-ld.1568274?fbclid=IwAR21FFkjhc8XiwZrhrmCtbr5rOToJD5aKg9ueiJ--n1YZGCkMSmou9bVfR8

(German)


Re: RhB : 701

Martin Baumann
 

Abgestellt can mean out of service due to a defect etc but can also mean stabled as in waiting for next working.

If 701 was long term out of service then "Remisiert" or "Ausser Betrieb" is more likely to be used. If it was not going to run again then "Zur Ausrangierung freigegeben" -authorised for withdrawal- might appear.


RhB : 701

David Prior
 

I didn’t notice at the time, but 701 went into Landquart for attention after working diagram #202 on 14th July.

Initially it was under periodic inspection (“Bestellter Fz“), and due out on 5305 diagram #204 the next day, which was indeed shown on the diagrams for 15th.

Seems it didn’t make it back out, and from 16th it became shown as “Reparatur”.

It is now listed as “Abgestellt” ... switched off, or potentially a kind of “stored (un?)serviceable” status.

Does anyone know more - might we have seen the last of it in operation ?


Re: Ee 3/3

Guerbetaler
 

Am 25.07.2020 um 12:50 schrieb Martin Baumann:
The Ee 3/3 at Chur were largely used for the passenger sector with a
little Cargo work.
But the Cargo duties were the reason why the Ee 3/3 remained so long. Their purely electromechanical gear allowed to run under 11 kV on three-rail track.

Markus


Re: Ee 3/3

Martin Baumann
 

The Ee 3/3 at Chur were largely used for the passenger sector with a little Cargo work. Cargo will now use either an Am 843 or a mainline loco. Passenger shunting at Chur has virtually disappeared due to most trains being either units or 460 pushpull so SBB-P will no longer have shunting locos at Chur


Re: Ee 3/3

Guerbetaler
 

Am 25.07.2020 um 00:51 schrieb Martin Baumann:
16383 and 16410 were withdrawn from Chur (hauled away by 11140) on
Wednesday.
What was sent to Chur as replacement?

Markus


Ee 3/3

Martin Baumann
 

16383 and 16410 were withdrawn from Chur (hauled away by 11140) on Wednesday. This means there is only one active loco left on SBB: 16406 at Bellinzona. It has an adapter coupler at one end so that it can be used to move FLIRT units if required


Re: Re 4/4 II and III

gordonwis
 

On Thursday, 23 July 2020, 12:15:36 BST, Gbgen <gbgen@hotmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the info on 420.207, that wasn't previously reported here. I just checked. Is it known where she currently is? Your wording implies, without specifically stating, that repairs have not been started nor authorised.
It is in Bellinzona works for assessment


Re: Re 4/4 II and III

Gbgen
 

Thanks for the info on 420.207, that wasn't previously reported here. I just checked. Is it known where she currently is? Your wording implies, without specifically stating, that repairs have not been started nor authorised.


Re: SBB obs plus MGB/MOB/BLS bits

Guerbetaler
 

Am 23.07.2020 um 07:46 schrieb Mark Torkington:
from the interrail app offline timetable that a lot of us when abroad
As indicated on the interrail website, this timetable doesn't reflect all the changes made due to Corona. So, to be sure your train is running, check the national timetable a short time before departure.

I was told that Jungfrau region will reduce train numbers again. The same thing may happen at other places. And not all GEX have been reintroduced.

Markus


Re: SBB / RhB / MGB bits

gordonwis
 

On Monday, 20 July 2020, 21:28:21 BST, Mark Torkington <mtorkington@hotmail.com> wrote:
A few units did put in appearances on loco hauled turns, although I presume that was down to reduced demand at the moment as I didn’t notice any new units in traffic.
To be fair, even without reduced demand RhB trains occasionally not working with their diagrammed power (or their diagrammed stock) has been happening on the RhB (especially the Albula) for some years now as there is so much gradual transition going on (eg Alvra being introduced but with only gradual upgrade of Ge4/4III locos possible


Re: SBB obs plus MGB/MOB/BLS bits

Guerbetaler
 

Am 23.07.2020 um 07:46 schrieb Mark Torkington:
These were taken from the interrail app offline timetable that a lot of us when abroad. Maybe you should direct your rant towards the SBB / Interrail data coding people rather than people who are just trying to post some sightings?
Thank you, I will take that, as I'm in regular contact with SBB people of this sector.

Markus


Re: SBB obs plus MGB/MOB/BLS bits

Mark Torkington
 

>>>sorry for the rant, but that's R 211 and PE 2111. It's really not helpful to use abbreviations that are misleading or not >>>known at all. Thank you.

These were taken from the interrail app offline timetable that a lot of us when abroad. Maybe you should direct your rant towards the SBB / Interrail data coding people rather than people who are just trying to post some sightings?  

Cheers

Mark


Re: SBB / RhB / MGB bits

Guerbetaler
 

Am 22.07.2020 um 16:30 schrieb Guerbetaler:
So, be aware that things can always change.
It seems that on Friday Deh 24 has to replace the HGe 4/4" in the Oberalp turn. Thus Deh 23 and 24 plus one Komet will do all Regios there.

Markus


Re: SBB / RhB / MGB bits

Guerbetaler
 

Am 20.07.2020 um 23:30 schrieb Guerbetaler:
The diagram is 550-860, next day 819-824-831-836-843-848-855-569,
also 211-272, but this may be the same consist several days. I only saw
that once in Andermatt within 7 days.
BDt 2241-B 2289- B 2283- A 2071
BDt 2242-B 2290- B 2286- A 2074
BD 2296-B 4262- B 4257- A 2075
It seems that the reintroduction of a second pair of GEX and the wreckage of 105 lead to some changes in the MGB charts. Today 211 was planned for a Komet-EMU (ABDeh) and 272 for a motor luggage van (Deh). 276 was planned for an ABDeh instead of Deh.

So, be aware that things can always change.

Markus

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