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Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

davey
 


Re: Appenzellerbahn

Marco van Uden
 

Op zo, okt. 3, 2021 om 15:42 schreef David Prior via groups.io<david.prior64=icloud.com@groups.io>:
Can anyone confirm whether the AB’s Ge 4/4 lok, number 1, has any passenger work or is purely infrastructure / freight ?
If I'm correct it is for sale and has no scheduled duties at all.
Marco


[ERG] RhB : 702 to Davos tomorrow

David Prior
 

On 30 Sep 2021, at 18:57, David Prior via groups.io wrote:

Ge 6/6ii 705 is diagrammed Fri 1/10
4011 05:13 Landquart - Davos Platz
1018 07:30 Davos Platz - Landquart
After the welcome surprise of 705 last Friday (which I happily took from Landquart-St Moritz and back), 702 is diagrammed for the first part of the same early Davos turn tomorrow, Mon 4/10. There has certainly been a pleasing, if unexpected, amount of work for the remaining Ge6/6ii fleet this summer.

4011 05:13 Landquart - Davos Platz
1018 07:30 Davos Platz - Landquart


Re: Appenzellerbahn

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2021 um 14:25 schrieb David Prior via groups.io:
Can anyone confirm whether the AB’s Ge 4/4 lok, number 1, has any passenger work or is purely infrastructure / freight ?
It seems to be one of those things rarely reported, if ever.
Ge 4/4 1, BDe 4/4 44 and 45 are all stored in Gossau but are not allowed to run because they haven't yet got ZSI-127. It is possible that Ge 4/4 1 will get ZSI-127 to be available as reserve for the Walzer EMUs. AB is completely freight-less ... Infrastructure now has the two new Stadler Gem 2/2 1095-1096, which can also work in MU for heavy trains and can also go to Trogen. Ge 4/4 1 is restricted Gossau - Wasserauen and Appenzell - Gais workshop (not entering the station!)

The only older vehicles fitted with ZSI-127 are BDeh 4/4 16-17 and ABt 116-117 for Altstätten - Gais and ABt 121-123 to be used as "modules" for the Walzer EMUs (1001-1005), seen here in Wasserauen.


Markus


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2021 um 15:33 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
> Is it worth a little detour to take a side trip from Appenzell to Wasserauen and back?
Appenzell - Wasserauen is different from Gossau - Appenzell, as it was built as an electric tramway, intended to be the first section of a "Säntisbahn", continuing from Wasserauen with rack and funiculars.

This was 1912. You know what came next and when anybody restarted to think of a Säntisbahn he ended with a cable car project. The cable car opened in 1935.

Appenzell - Wasserauen can be done in half an hour as most (but not all) trains come back after a short stop in Wasserauen.

There is now a cable car starting form Wasserauen to Ebenalp from where the meanwhile world-famous Aescher can be reached within half an hour.


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

John Lovda
 

Markus:

Thanks for the warning although I will be returning home on the 13th. Is it worth a little detour to take a side trip from Appenzell to Wasserauen and back?


Appenzellerbahn

David Prior
 

Can anyone confirm whether the AB’s Ge 4/4 lok, number 1, has any passenger work or is purely infrastructure / freight ?

It seems to be one of those things rarely reported, if ever.

Thanks, David


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 03.10.2021 um 00:29 schrieb Bill Bolton:
Watch out for trackwork closures...
St. Gallen - Teufen will be closed 18th - 25th October to connect the new alignment in St. Gallen Güterbahnhof (parallel to standard gauge tracks).

And Rheineck - Walzenhausen is bus service until the end of October because the only railcar has suffered a defect.

Markus


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Bill Bolton
 

On Fri, 01 Oct 2021 17:53:52 -0700, John Lovda wrote:

I am also going to spend a day on the Appenzeller Bahn. I
might begin my day in Gossau to Urnäsch, Appenzell, Gais
and Altstätten then return back to Gais and going to St.
Gallen.
We did a similar day trip from Chur in 2017, but started in St Gallen
and ended at Gossau.

Watch out for trackwork closures... despite carefully checking before
hand, we ended up on a bus for the last downhill part from Herisau to
Gossau (which we had ridden on a previous visit).

From St Gallen you can also ride the former TB (now AB) to Trogen, and
perhaps fit in a ride on a St Gallen trolleybus.


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.10.2021 um 16:58 schrieb John Lovda via groups.io:
I arrive on Wednesday morning
Weather forecasts for Wednesday still show some rain but it might get better until Saturday.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

John Lovda
 

On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 02:26 AM, Guerbetaler wrote:

Hoher Kasten

Thank you Markus. I found it on my Appenzeller route map. My communication with the outside world during my trips is my PC in my Hotel room. I believe there is a webcam for Säntis. I will check it in the morning before I leave for the HB.

We'll see what the prices for food are. At the very least I can enjoy a dessert and cup of coffee. I arrive on Wednesday morning so my excitement is building. The eight day, second class Swiss Travel Pass is wonderful. I have used them every year. The price is roughly SF 51 per day but I don't have to worry at all about trains or buses. I did get surprised by the WAB at Lauterbrennen. It was SF 35 with the pass up to Kleine Scheidegg. Gornergrat was SF 50 with the pass. Went to the Jungfrau once 45 years ago with my wife on our honeymoon. Too expensive for a return visit. Too many things to see for "free" with my pass.

John

John


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.10.2021 um 11:24 schrieb Markus (Gürbetal) Y:
... take dinner ....
eehm, should have said lunch, or late breakfast, or even better
... a meal at noon ... ;-)

Markus


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Guerbetaler
 

Am 02.10.2021 um 02:53 schrieb main@SwissRail.groups.io Notification:
... I might take a detour to Säntis.
That's a very nice place IF the weather is good. ... but a waste of time
and money, if the peak is in the fog.

However, there is another peak with a cableway and also a very good
sight IF the weather etc... The special thing on the Hoher Kasten is
that they have a revolving restaurant. Having a dinner and slowly ging
round to see the Lake of Constance, Eastern Switzerland, Southern Bayern
and Vorarlberg is really very nice.

https://www.hoherkasten.ch/en/explore/gastronomy/revolving-restaurant/

To go there you continue from Gossau via Appenzell to Weissbad and take
the Post bus to Brülisau (7 min). Unlike the bus Urnäsch - Schwägalp
(for the Säntis) there is mostly a half hourly bus.

If the weather isn't really good, take dinner in Appenzell, there are some very nice restaurants.

Markus


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

John Lovda
 

Thanks for the info. I have decided to take the combination Bex-Villars and Villars-Bretaye rides. According to the SBB schedules, BEX is exactly the same time going either via Lausanne or Visp. Both routes meet in Bern for the same IC-2000 express to back to Zürich. Bex will be a very long day; 07:30 leaving and about 19;30 back home.

I am also going to spend a day on the Appenzeller Bahn. I might begin my day in Gossau to Urnäsch, Appenzell, Gais and Altstätten then return back to Gais and going to St. Gallen. If I want to make it another very long day I might take a detour to Säntis.

Thanks to all for your help. I really appreciate it.

John


Re: RhB : 705 to Davos tomorrow

Guerbetaler
 

Am 30.09.2021 um 18:57 schrieb David Prior via groups.io:

Ge 6/6ii 705 is diagrammed Fri 1/10
1327 09:20 Landquart - St Moritz


Re: Gais - Altstätten Stadt (was Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains)

Bill Bolton
 

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:44:18 -0700, John Lovda wrote:

I did not know the SBB station and Appenzeller Bahn
station are not in the same place. How far is the distance?
It's probably about a 25 minute walk from Altstätten Stadt to
Altstätten Bahnhof, IIRC.

Would I be better off taking a dead end ride to Altstätten from
the west and then head back?
That's what we did in 2017. The downhill and uphill views are quite
different.

Cheers,

Bill


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

jpnoiville
 

John
This is the Bex Villars Bretaye line I have described in an earlier response. If you like street running this is the line for you. There are separate Bex-Villars and Villars-Bretaye services. The latter is mostly used in wintertime by skiers.


Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

Martin Baumann
 

Sorry, typo. 12 ordered


Re: Less travelled narrow gauge trains

Paul Burkhalter
 

Re: the new narrow gauge platform at Bex….info here: https://tpc.ch/societe/infrastructure/projets/bvb-nouvelle-gare-de-bex/


Re: SBB Ama 832 (Alstom H3)

csipromo
 

How do you get 101-112 for 10 locomotives?

Mike C

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