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Re: Adler Tunnel

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Adler Tunnel is not yet open. But soon.
Basler Zeitung of 26.05.2000 contains the following information:
 
Dieser Interregio könnte schon bald durch den Adlertunnel fahren - die Eröffnung haben die SBB am 4. Dezember geplant. Das ist der Tag der heiligen Barbara, der Schutzpatronin der Tunnelbauer. Vorerst wird das noch keine Auswirkungen auf den Fahrplan haben. «Wir werden sicher gewisse Züge durch den Tunnel leiten, um Erfahrungen zu sammeln», meint Stephan Maurer. Der Zeitgewinn betrage etwa eine Minute. Bevor der Tunnel jedoch dem Verkehr übergeben wird, ist ein grosses Fest geplant; es soll im September stattfinden.
 
in English: Opening is planned for december 4th, the day of Barbara. Time saving for trains using the tunnel would be about one minute. An SBB spokesman said, there would certainly some trains be rerouted through the tunnel after its opening, but just to get experiences. Befor opening a big fiest is planned, it shall take place in September.
 
Hope this helps
Markus Giger
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "John Fleck" <johntgv@...>
An: "Giger-Baumann" <giger.baumann@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Mai 2000 15:44
Betreff: Adler Tunnel

> Dear Markus:
>
> I understand the Adler Tunnel opened last Sunday near Basel SBB. Is this
> true and are all trains between Basel and Olten and Basel to Zurich via
> the Lower Hauenstein Tunnel using it?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Fleck
> Toronto, Canada


Rolling Super Market

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

With this years timetable change, a new idea became reality: a little Coop supermarket on rails. For this purpose, the two ancient McDonald's "dining" cars were converted to rolling shops. They run in InterRegios, not in InterCities. For details and a picture see SBB webpage at
 
If anybody has no access to the internet, I could copy the information and mail it. Just let me know.
 
Markus Giger


BLS dining car

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

The only dining car of BLS, WR 451 ex BT (1966) is - for the first time in its live - in regular use all the year. It is now called BistroBar GOLDEN PASS and rolls together with a Salon Bleu in RX 2348 and 2357: 
0936 Interlaken Ost 
1040 Zweisimmen 
1620 Zweisimmen 
1724 Interlaken Ost 
RX in the Simmental are usually push-pull compositions with Ae 4/4. So RX 2348 is composed as follows:
BDt - AB - B - BD - Ae 4/4 - B - WR - A
WR 451 (which already had this number on Bodensee - Toggenburg-Bahn) was built for special purposes. Only five weeks in summer it found regular use in a push-pull-composition Romanshorn - St. Gallen - Rapperwil - Luzern (now Voralpenexpress) instead of BT buffet car WR 450. In 1982 with a train every two hours (Taktfahrplan), it was decided to stop buffet car service and a minibar was used instead. The two BT cars WR 450 and 451 were sold to BLS, the buffet car WR 242 of SOB found a new task Monday to Friday in commuter trains Einsiedeln - Zürich, replacing there the old Br 241. WR 450 was in regular use on the Lötschberg until replacement by the rebuilt cheese-WR of SBB. It was sold back to BT and is now a service car, still in its true task, but instead of passengers the track gang sits at the tables. Romanshorn - Luzern again has buffet cars, now every hour, so eight "Revvivo" cars (six in daily use) are needed:
BR 551-554 BT (full numbers: 50 48 85-35 551...)
BR 700-701 SBB (50 85 85-35 700...)
BR 771-772 SOB (50 47 85-35 771...), 772 is the protoype Revvivo car of 1995 (a rebuild from unified car type I = Einheitswagen I)
 
Markus Giger


Robert Peschkes

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Die nachfolgende Frage hat nur bedingt mit unserem Thema zu tun. Ich bin aber um Hilfe angegangen worden und möchte es nun hier versuchen: Kennt jemand Robert Peschkes bzw. eine aktuelle Anschrift von ihm? Meldungen bitte direkt an mich, nicht an die Liste. Danke!
 
As I was asked for help from railway enthusiasts elsewhere, I ask you this question: Does anybody know an actual adress of Mr. Robert Peschkes? If you have any information, please contact me off-list. Thanks!
 
Markus Giger
 


Re: ZSR GTW 2/6

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Slovak railways ŽSR have now ordered standard gauge diesel version of GTW 2/6 for Poprad Tatry - Tatranska Lomnica. Delivery of the former order of 14 narrow gauge d.c. GTW 2/6 will start in October.
To the above message, Eisenbahn-Amateur says the number of GTW 2/6 ordered is 6.
 
Markus Giger


trading slides or photos of swiss locos

jackie mcneil <jmcniel@...>
 

hi
just wondering if there is anybody interested in trading slides or
photos of locomotives in switzerland?
any interest?
thanks
jackie


Head-on collision on Bayerische Zugspitzbahn (D)

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Saturday morning about 1040 two trains of BZB (Germany) collided at the entrance of a short tunnel at a speed of about 40 km/h each. More than 60 persons were injured, no one is in danger of life now. The train coming from Garmisch-Partenkirchen (connection with DB) was on time, the other one was an empty extra. It is supposed, that one of the drivers started early or even had wrong orders.
 
The empty train was a motor coach that has been on BZB only for two months and had been bought from BOB (Berner Oberland Bahn) (ABe 4/4 309, 1979). It should be used between Garmisch and Eibsee (Garmisch - Grainau adhesion, Grainau - Eibsee rack 13%) together with two driving trailers bought from Regionalverkehr Bern - Solothurn (RBS Bt 211 and 213). It was planned to buy also BOB ABe 4/4 310 (1979). It would then have been possible to use the two two-car-sets Beh 4/8 10 and 11 bought from SLM in 1987 on the heavily used Eibsee - Zuspitzplatt section (25%). In Eibsee, the road stops and there is a big parking.
 
Now, one of the above mentioned Beh 4/8 has suffered bad damages and the mechanical part of the car that was on the front end would need a near new build. The ex-BOB car also suffered but not so badly. It is obvious, that it is a much heavier construction (44 t) than the two-car set (52.4 t the whole set). BZB is at the moment left with only one train set that can run through between Garmisch and Eibsee, all other motive power is either adhesion only or rack only. Probably passengers will now have to change at Grainau to rack-only motor coaches for a while (as it was the case before delivery of the two Beh 4/8 - it is interesting to note that BZB has the Swiss-style designations stenciled on their cars).
 
Markus Giger


Administrative

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

For the next two weeks I am away from computers. I will be back on July 1st.
Markus Giger


MO + MC = TMR

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Die Generalversammlungen der MO und der MC haben beschlossen, zu den "Transports de Martigny et région" zu fusionieren. Die meterspurige MC hat internationalen Verkehr bis Chamonix und St-Gervais-Le Fayet (durchgehende Züge mit SNCF), währenddem die normalspurige MO sehr lokalen Charakter hat. Einzig der Verkehr nach Verbier, der bis Le Châble mit der Bahn geht (ab dort Postauto und Luftseilbahn), bringt etwas Aufkommen. Die natürliche Fortsetzung der MO wäre durch den Strassentunnel "Grosser St-Bernhard" ins Aostatal...
 
The general assembly of MO as well as the one of MC has decided to accept a merger, building "Transports de Martigny et région". Meter gauge MC has through-service with SNCF to Chamonix and St-Gervais-Le Fayet. Standard gauge MO only has local traffic, the only "highlight" being (winter) tourists to Verbier, changing to bus or cable transport in Le Châble. Natural continuation of MO would be through the road tunnel to the Val d'Aosta.
 
Markus Giger


NINA

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

In einer Zeitungsmeldung von heute war zu erfahren, BLS, MO (zukünftig TMR) und TRN (vormals RVT) hätten gemeinsam 11 NINA für 57 Mio. CHF bestellt. Diese würden im Bombardier Werk Villeneuve hergestellt. Allerdings werden dort keine elektrischen Komponenten gefertigt und HOLEC, welche die E-Ausrüstung für die erste BLS-Serie fertigte, gehört nicht mehr zum Konzern. Die BLS hat angekündigt 6 achtachsige Fahrzeuge zu kaufen, MO will zwei Sechsachser wohingegen die Absichten von TRN nicht bekannt sind. Immerhin hat TRN 3 NPZ von 1983, 85 und 91, welche für den Regeldienst vollauf genügen würden.
 
Newspapers today told that BLS, MO (soon TMR), TRN (former RVT) had ordered 11 NINA at a price of CHF 57 million. They should be produced in Bombardier's Villeneuve plant, but electrical gear must be bought somewhere else. For the first eight BLS-NINA it was HOLEC, which is no longer part of the same industrial group. BLS is to have 6 eight-axle cars, MO initially planned to buy 2 six-axle cars but no intention of TRN is known. TRN has three standard push-pull compositions of 1983, 85 and 91 which can cover the regular offer.
 
Markus Giger


NINA

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

On Bombardier's site there is a press release with more informations
 
 
Bombardier talks of "3-car" sets, which is not correct. It is one car with 4 bogies and 3 bodies. The "2-car" set has 3 bogies and 2 bodies. The order looks as follows:
 
Nach einer Pressemitteilung auf der Homepage von Bombardier wurden 29 Kastenelemente bestellt in folgender Kombination:
 
BLS 6 x 3
MO/TMR 3 x 2
TRN 1 x 2 + 1 x 3


NINA

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

BahnCH
Die drei NINAs der TMR (MO) sollen mit zinslosen, rückzahlbaren Darlehen des Bundes und des Kantons Wallis finanziert werden. BLS und TRN sorgen selbst für die Finanzierung (Abschreibungsmittel). Die E-Ausrüstung kommt von Traxis (NL). Zu wem gehört eigentlich Traxis heute?
 
Zeitungsmeldungen zufolge verhandelt Bombardier mit DaimlerChrysler über den Kauf von ADtranz. Pratteln und Oerlikon (ADtranz) wären dann kurz vor der Stillegung noch unter dem gleichen Dach wie Villeneuve (Bombardier)! In Pratteln soll aber eine Auffanggesellschaft den Fahrzeugunterhalt sowie Fertigungsaufträge von ADtranz übernehmen. Stadler Bussnang/Altenrhein übernimmt einen Teil der Fertigung (inkl. Personal) von Oerlikon und wird damit unabhängiger von ADtranz.
 
SwissRail
The 3 NINA's of TMR (MO) will be bought with loans without interest from the Confederation and the canton Valais. BLS and TRN buy with their own money. Electric gear comes from Traxis (NL). Who owns Traxis today?
 
Newspapers today told that Bombardier negotiates about buying ADtranz from DaimlerChrysler. So the plants in Pratteln und Oerlikon (ADtranz) would be - shortly before laid down - in the same family as Villeneuve (Bombardier). In Prattlen an new company wants to take over maintenance and part of the production for ADtranz. Stadler Bussnang/Altenrhein took over a part of Oerlikon production (including staff) and by this will be more independent from ADtranz.
 
Markus Giger


BLS Ae 8/8

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Heute lag die Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue im Briefkasten. Als Titelbild die Ae 8/8 275 mit Güterzug in Kandersteg - am 6. Juli 2000! Aufgrund der angespannten Triebfahrzeugsituation der SBB wurde auch die BLS angefragt. Und diese hat gehandelt und die Ae 8/8 275 Ende Juli wieder in Betrieb gesetzt. Der Ae 8/8 273 seien hingegen Teile für den Unterhalt der Ae 4/4 entnommen worden, eine Wiederinbetriebnahme dementsprechend aufwendiger. Laut SER verkehrt die Lok 275 seit 17 Juli vor Aushubzügen Goppenstein - Raron.
 
August issue of Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue shows BLS Ae 8/8 275 with a train (local freight) in Kandersteg on July 6, 2000! As SBB is short of locomotives (and engineers) BLS was asked to help. So, end of June Ae 8/8 275 was back in service. The other surviving unit of these eight-axle double engines, no 273 has been partly stripped for parts needed for Ae 4/4 251, 252, 257 and 258. SER said, Engine 275 pulls excavation trains from Goppenstein to Raron, starting with July 17, 2000. 275 was put together from Ae 4/4 255 and 256 in 1966.
 
Markus Giger


Ae 8/8 BLS

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Heute, Samstag 12.08.00, habe ich die Ae 8/8 275 in Goppenstein gesehen, wo sie mit Zug in der Verladeanlage stand. die letzte Einsatzmeldung hat also immer noch Gültigkeit.
 
Today, Saturday, August 12th, I saw BLS Ae 8/8 275 in Goppenstein, in use for trains Goppenstein - Raron, as reported before.
 
Markus Giger


Struktur SBB und BLS

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

 


BLS & SBB

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

On Thursday, 2000-08-17, SBB and BLS informed about their intentions for cooperation. The two managements agreed the following:
  • SBB will take over long-distance passenger traffic from BLS. Already now, main planning tasks were by SBB, as there is no long-distance traffic exclusively on BLS. Rolling stock of BLS for long distance traffic is nearly identical to SBB cars. Color and seats are the only differencies. But it is to note, that BLS mark 4 cars roll only 14% on BLS and 86% on SBB (timetable 2000/01). On the other hand, many BLS-trains are composed of SBB cars.
  • BLS will take over all SBB S-Bahn trains in the Berne area. So S1 Thun - Bern - Freiburg/Laupen and S3 Thun - Belp - Bern - Biel will shift to BLS.
  • Freight will be in different units, SBB goes together with FS (CSI = Cargo Svizzera-Iatliana) and BLS is planning to erect a freight daughter, in which DB could participate (if they wanted...). They remain in competition but carload traffic within Switzerland is only offered by SBB, later by CSI.
  • Piggy back service on the Lötschberg route will be operated by BLS alone.
  • BLS keeps the auto transport through the Lötschberg tunnel (and Simplon, on occasions).
  • Infrastructure management is secured by SBB but maintenance and operations remain with SBB and BLS separately.
  • SBB wants to purchase 34% of BLS stock.
This means important changes in passenger service, small changes in freight and a better coordination in infrastructure. At least half a year of hard work for the BLS administration is needed before corporate structure can be changed. The new structure can be seen from the attachment of a separate posting, also sent to BahnCH. If anybody needs translation help, please tell me.
 
Markus Giger


Fw: Important eGroups notification

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

From eGroups I got the following announcment:

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$4.95 (US) per month (payable in a single annual payment of $59.40),
we will exclude all ads from the messages for your group.
Markus Giger


Fotos of Swiss Railways

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

In the files-section of BahnCH (German messages) a number of pictures are uploaded and more are to follow. The files-section is only accessible to members. If you would like to become a member of BahnCH with access to all pictures and other informations but do not wish to get the messages, do the following:
click on BahnCH-link at the end of this message
sign in
click on [ Subscribe ]
set the delivery options to "No Mail/Web Only"
 
Markus Giger


Fotos

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

I just discovered a lovely site. Have a look:
 
 
Markus Giger


BLS stock

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

"Bund" newspaper of today said, that BLS shares (issued at CHF 10) rose to CHF 35 in February, when speculations about a merger were put by SBB. Later, it sank to CHF 20 but has now again reached CHF 27. It is told of some private investors expecting the BLS shares to have a value of CHF 88. I wonder who would be ready to pay that sum for a company only surviving thanks to a big sum of subsidies.
 
Markus Giger

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