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Simplon closed again, BVZ to open

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Between Iselle and Domodossola (this is a FS-line in Italy, but electrified with 15 kV 16.7 Hz a.c. and thus only used by SBB and BLS locomotives) a landslide closed the line again in the evening. Traffic only had resumed in the morning.
 
According to a local newspaper, BVZ resumed Täsch - Zermatt shuttles early this morning and went down to St. Niklaus, starting at 09.10. No other connection could be offered than to continue by Helicopter. It was said, prices were somewhat higher than on the train...
In the afternoon the road opened, according to radio news. So from Thursday morning there will be a through service with changing beteween bus and train in St. Niklaus, as announced earlier. Visp - St. Niklaus will remain closed for at least two months, BVZ said.
 
Oct, 18, 11 p.m. 
Markus Giger


Glacier-Express back, freight diverted to Gotthard

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

This morning, Fr, Oct, 20, FO opened Oberwald - Fiesch. Glacier-Express is working again between St. Moritz and Zermatt, however, between Fiesch (FO) and St. Niklaus (BVZ), transfer is made by busses.
 
Closing of Simplon and Mont-Cenis (there were also floods in Torino) caused maximum freight traffic on Gothhard. On Thu, Oct, 19, 170'202 t made for a new record in transportation over this line.
 
Markus Giger


Kombirail

John Whitby <john.p.whitby@...>
 

Greetings,
Do Migros still use Kombirail units? I am attempting to model the
Migros/SBB units in n-scale and would like to obtain
information/photos. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Best wishes
John


Simplon reopened

Markus Giger <giger.baumann@...>
 

Monday, Oct, 23, Simplon was reopened for through traffic Bern -
Domodossola - Milano. Already on Sunday, regional trains were said to
reach Domodossola. It is not known, whether connections from
Domodossola to Milano were working.
Monday, at noon, BLS will restart its car transport service Brig -
Domodossola because Simplon road still is closed.
Markus Giger


Re: [SBB] Driving trailers

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Blaine asked:
What driving trailers existed in green during the Seventies?

I have one of the Eriam N scale trailers (baggage type); were any of the
lightweight coaches made into trailers?
This is the complete list of green driving trailers of SBB as of 1982 (in
1985 6 BDt rebuilds from B unified type I were added, cabs like NPZ, still
in green):

for RBe 4/4 (and later also Re 4/4", when they were allowed to push trains):
DZt 50 85 91-33 910-915 of 1959, unified type I
DZt 50 85 91-33 920-959 of 1966-71, unified type II
BDt 50 85 82-33 910-939 of 1976, unified type II

for BDe 4/4 and Re 4/4'
ABt 50 85 38-33 900-921 of 1959, unified type I
ABt 50 85 38-33 930-937 rebuilt 1974-78 from AB 38-33 502-509 of 1951,
lightweight type
cab-2/1st-double entry-2/1st-2/2nd-double entry-2/2nd-toilet

the above mentioned 5 series had the same cab type as RBe 4/4, the following
5 series had different cabs but all similar to Re 4/4' and BDe 4/4

for BDe 4/4 only
ABt 50 85 37-33 900-919 of 1952-54 lightweight type
cab-entry-3/1st-toilet-2/2nd-double entry-2/2nd-toilet
Bt 50 85 29-33 900-902 rebuilt 1980-81 from B 29-33 567,223,217
cab-2/2nd-double entry-5/2nd-double entry-2/2nd-toilet

for Re 4/4' only
BDt 50 85 82-33 900 of 1948, lightweight type
Dt 50 85 92-33 900-902 of 1955, lightweight type
DZt 50 85 91-33 900-901 of 1955, lightweight type

for Be 4/6, De 4/4, Ae 3/5 (and with some restrictions RBe 4/4 and Re 4/4")
with cab like Be 4/6 (old-fashioned type)
Bti 50 85 29-03 900-910
BDti 50 85 82-03 900-906
both built in 1961-65 with new body and parts of wooden coaches

for BDe 4/4" (Gen�ve - La Plaine, 1500 V dc) with cab like BDe 4/4"
Bt 1801-1802 1977 ex ABt 1801-1802 of 1956-57, lightweight type

Markus Giger


Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue 11/2000

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

A member of SwissRail asked, whether it would be possible to indicate the contents of German-speaking journals. I make a first test with SER 11/2000. Please write, if you like it and please write, if you dislike it. (That's democracy!) If you find things, I could write better, please tell me (English is not my first language, but I am eager to learn). If you think, summary should be shorter, tell me. Work is nice but feedback is important...
 
Here is the list of articles and news, most with very high quality pictures:
  • SBB-FS joint venture startup delayed
  • opening of piggy-back corridor Simplon postponed again (planned for Jan, 1st, 2001)
  • Luzern - Langnau - Bern to be automated
  • ETCS-level-2-tests on Zofingen - Sempach delayed (start was planned for Dec, 3)
  • 2 ICN specials meet in Langnau i.E.
  • S-Bahn Zürich bilevel driving trailer 26-34 908 hits car on closed level crossing and burns
  • RABe 1051 (TEE) scrapped (only 1053 and 1055 survive)
  • passenger division of SBB to be reorganised again
  • all 4 BLS Ae 4/4 in use
  • number of SBB regions reduced to 10
  • Re 460 033 with new Märklin painting
  • remaining two BLS Ae 8/8 in service again
  • Ae 6/6 to be fitted for MU?
  • SBB lacks drivers, locomotives, marketing specialists etc.
  • planned investments of SBB
  • Postal trains get high priority
  • DB 101 055 picks up 7 loaned Bpm in Schaffhausen
  • SBB-trains without indication of destination on the trains' sides (except for trains with electronic equipment)
  • new entry for FO and BVZ into Brig station
  • Churchill-arrow RAe 4/8 1021 (RMT/MThB 506 605) in Domat-Ems/RhB
  • Sersa buys Benkler, Villmergen
  • strong summer season on RhB-Bernina line
  • Two RhB-trains scheduled to run coupled from Chur to Klosters
  • excavation trains on RM running again after accident in Hüswil LU
  • New diesel shunter for NStCM (regauged O&K Tm 2/2 261)
  • MOB AB 301-302 rebuilt as intermediate trailers B 216-217 for Be 4/4 5000-series
  • Lettentunnel in Zürich to be filled
  • SOB Re 446 447 with Tesa advertising paint
  • SOB train derailed after landslide
  • new colours for older ASm-trains (304+351)
  • "Slow-up" specials with Re 4/4"-B-D-B-D-B-Dt for bicycles and their drivers.
  • RhB Gem 4/4 801-802 to get new Diesels, longer passing loops in Bernina Lagalb, Stablini, Brusio and original yellow paint for ABe 4/4 30
  • big traffic in 2002 due to Expo.02 and other big events
  • commuter-newspapers for Berne and Basel
  • IC now with helper engine between Rorschach and St. Gallen
  • Test with new cab air condition in Re 450 105
  • Faster freight trains planned (100 km/h instead of 80)
  • SBB track measuring program
  • historic RM Be 4/4 102 with special to Laufenburg AG
  • FLP plans to build a new tunnel + station in Ponte Tresa
  • BVB Be 4/6 601 (articulated streetcar) back with special paint
  • MThB Ec 3/5 3 with DVZO-special to Laufenburg AG
  • Pilatusbahn car 23 and 29 with advertising paint
  • special with 01 202 Wabern BE to Kreuzlingen TG with two OeBB coaches and 1 BLS D and BLS WR 451, panto up!
  • Classic Pullman from RhB on BVZ (nice picture, not to be seen during the next months...)
  • Reconstruction of Spanish meter-gauge cogwheel railway to Montserrat (closed in 1957) by FGC, Stadler will deliver 5 ZGTW 2/6 for 2002. possibliy two more units for FGC Ribes - Nuria line
  • LIREX train (Germany, high innovation, ugly...)
  • Innotrans Berlin (Germany), interesting picture of KEG 7001 ex CFR 060-EA-079 !
  • Comment about Bombardier offer for 40 ÖBB regional trainsets (very interesting, but off-topic)
  • First electric Desiro (Siemens) to Slovenia
  • other international news
  • Cargo sprinters ordered from Austrailia (CRT)
  • ADtranz plans not to be changed but solution for workers found
  • PKP unable to pay new ADtranz locomotives, search for a new buyer (for traffic Italy - Germany?)
  • history of Burgdorf - Thun-Bahn, part 3
  • Investments for Brünigbahn: ATC (approved), partial doubling Horw - Hergiswil, automatisation, new regional trainsets (all to be approved)
  • doubling of SOB "Seedamm" line Pfäffikon - Hurden
  • Overhaul of BT/DLC Eb 3/5 9 of 1910
  • plans for connections with high speed lines in neighbouring countries
  • start of tunnelling in Steg VS for Lötschberg tunnel
Markus Giger
 


Re: Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue 11/2000

glenn allen
 

--- Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@smile.ch> wrote:
A member of SwissRail asked, whether it would be
possible to indicate the contents of German-speaking
journals. I make a first test with SER 11/2000.
Please write, if you like it and please write, if
you dislike it. (That's democracy!) If you find
things, I could write better, please tell me
(English is not my first language, but I am eager to
learn). If you think, summary should be shorter,
tell me. Work is nice but feedback is important...
Very nice, I wonder if it could be sorted into rail
companies, e.g. SBB all together, BLS all together
etc. Even more work for you! You could even show the
German and English one under the other, see how much
we could learn!



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Brig - Leuk offen

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

SBB und BLS teilen mit:

Regionalzüge Brig–Leuk verkehren wieder

Nach den grossen Schäden, die das Unwetter im Wallis an den Bahnanlagen angerichtet hat, können die SBB ab Mittwoch 25. Oktober den Regionalzugverkehr zwischen Brig und Leuk wieder aufnehmen. Dies nicht zuletzt dank grosser Unterstützung der Armee bei der Wiederherstellung.

Bis auf weiteres stellt ein Pendelbetrieb mit Halt auf allen Zwischenstationen die Verbindung sicher.

Der internationale Reisezugverkehr zwischen Brig und Domodossola konnte am Montag (23.10.00) wieder aufgenommen werden. Die Strecke Sierre–Brig bleibt wegen Instandstellungsarbeiten noch bis Ende Monat unterbrochen und der Verkehr wird mit Autobussen sichergestellt. Auch die Autozüge der BLS zwischen Brig und Domodossola wieder.

Wednesday, Oct, 25, SBB reopens Brig - Leuk for regional traffic only. Through traffic Brig - Sierre remains on the road until the end of October. Openening of the line down to Leuk was possible also because of the Army helping in reconstruction work.


Re: Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue 11/2000

Swiss Model Railways <chernex@...>
 

Dear Markus
 
I like it very much indeed and hope you can continue with the idea.
 
Kind regards
Brian Hemming

----- Original Message -----
Sent: 23 October 2000 23:12
Subject: [SwissRail] Schweizer Eisenbahn-Revue 11/2000

A member of SwissRail asked, whether it would be possible to indicate the contents of German-speaking journals. I make a first test with SER 11/2000. Please write, if you like it and please write, if you dislike it. (That's democracy!) If you find things, I could write better, please tell me (English is not my first language, but I am eager to learn). If you think, summary should be shorter, tell me. Work is nice but feedback is important...
 
Here is the list of articles and news, most with very high quality pictures:
  • SBB-FS joint venture startup delayed
  • opening of piggy-back corridor Simplon postponed again (planned for Jan, 1st, 2001)
  • Luzern - Langnau - Bern to be automated
  • ETCS-level-2-tests on Zofingen - Sempach delayed (start was planned for Dec, 3)
  • 2 ICN specials meet in Langnau i.E.
  • S-Bahn Zürich bilevel driving trailer 26-34 908 hits car on closed level crossing and burns
  • RABe 1051 (TEE) scrapped (only 1053 and 1055 survive)
  • passenger division of SBB to be reorganised again
  • all 4 BLS Ae 4/4 in use
  • number of SBB regions reduced to 10
  • Re 460 033 with new Märklin painting
  • remaining two BLS Ae 8/8 in service again
  • Ae 6/6 to be fitted for MU?
  • SBB lacks drivers, locomotives, marketing specialists etc.
  • planned investments of SBB
  • Postal trains get high priority
  • DB 101 055 picks up 7 loaned Bpm in Schaffhausen
  • SBB-trains without indication of destination on the trains' sides (except for trains with electronic equipment)
  • new entry for FO and BVZ into Brig station
  • Churchill-arrow RAe 4/8 1021 (RMT/MThB 506 605) in Domat-Ems/RhB
  • Sersa buys Benkler, Villmergen
  • strong summer season on RhB-Bernina line
  • Two RhB-trains scheduled to run coupled from Chur to Klosters
  • excavation trains on RM running again after accident in Hüswil LU
  • New diesel shunter for NStCM (regauged O&K Tm 2/2 261)
  • MOB AB 301-302 rebuilt as intermediate trailers B 216-217 for Be 4/4 5000-series
  • Lettentunnel in Zürich to be filled
  • SOB Re 446 447 with Tesa advertising paint
  • SOB train derailed after landslide
  • new colours for older ASm-trains (304+351)
  • "Slow-up" specials with Re 4/4"-B-D-B-D-B-Dt for bicycles and their drivers.
  • RhB Gem 4/4 801-802 to get new Diesels, longer passing loops in Bernina Lagalb, Stablini, Brusio and original yellow paint for ABe 4/4 30
  • big traffic in 2002 due to Expo.02 and other big events
  • commuter-newspapers for Berne and Basel
  • IC now with helper engine between Rorschach and St. Gallen
  • Test with new cab air condition in Re 450 105
  • Faster freight trains planned (100 km/h instead of 80)
  • SBB track measuring program
  • historic RM Be 4/4 102 with special to Laufenburg AG
  • FLP plans to build a new tunnel + station in Ponte Tresa
  • BVB Be 4/6 601 (articulated streetcar) back with special paint
  • MThB Ec 3/5 3 with DVZO-special to Laufenburg AG
  • Pilatusbahn car 23 and 29 with advertising paint
  • special with 01 202 Wabern BE to Kreuzlingen TG with two OeBB coaches and 1 BLS D and BLS WR 451, panto up!
  • Classic Pullman from RhB on BVZ (nice picture, not to be seen during the next months...)
  • Reconstruction of Spanish meter-gauge cogwheel railway to Montserrat (closed in 1957) by FGC, Stadler will deliver 5 ZGTW 2/6 for 2002. possibliy two more units for FGC Ribes - Nuria line
  • LIREX train (Germany, high innovation, ugly...)
  • Innotrans Berlin (Germany), interesting picture of KEG 7001 ex CFR 060-EA-079 !
  • Comment about Bombardier offer for 40 ÖBB regional trainsets (very interesting, but off-topic)
  • First electric Desiro (Siemens) to Slovenia
  • other international news
  • Cargo sprinters ordered from Austrailia (CRT)
  • ADtranz plans not to be changed but solution for workers found
  • PKP unable to pay new ADtranz locomotives, search for a new buyer (for traffic Italy - Germany?)
  • history of Burgdorf - Thun-Bahn, part 3
  • Investments for Brünigbahn: ATC (approved), partial doubling Horw - Hergiswil, automatisation, new regional trainsets (all to be approved)
  • doubling of SOB "Seedamm" line Pfäffikon - Hurden
  • Overhaul of BT/DLC Eb 3/5 9 of 1910
  • plans for connections with high speed lines in neighbouring countries
  • start of tunnelling in Steg VS for Lötschberg tunnel
Markus Giger
 


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GTW 2/6

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

The first electric meter-gauge GTW 2/6 was delivered to Slovak State Railway. Externally, it is an exact copy of the ASm (BTI) trainsets - including GF-coupling. In fact, GF-couplings can not be found too often outside Switzerland. From the three existing types of automatic +GF+ couplers, I know the following applications abroad:
 
GFV (Vorortsbahnen) like RABDe 510, Re 450, RBS ABe 4/12 etc:
Finnland VR Sm 1/Sm 2 + Eio trainsets
 
GFS (Schmalspurbahnen) like AB, NStCM, ASm, BOB/SBB/LSE etc.:
Spain RENFE meter gauge Guadarrama line (trainsets are copies of LEB 26/27)
Slovakia ZSR meter gauge GTW 2/6 for Poprad and Tatranská Lomnica - Strbske Pleso
 
GFT (Tram) like VBZ, FB, BVB, WAB etc.:
Slovakia ZSR cogwheel meter gauge Strba - Strbské Pleso (trainsets from SLM 1970)
 
The different types can not couple between each others.
 
FGV ZGTW 2/6 will probably be fitted with BSI-couplers (according to drawings in SER 11/2000)
 
Markus Giger


Official names of SBB

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

I recently met a discussion about official names of SBB. The information I gave might also be of interest for SwissRail members:
 
In the law which erects SBB as a independent comany, there are three names (SBB/CFF/FFS)
http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/sr/742_31/a2.html
 
In the commerce register at the seat in Berne, SBB entered five names (SBB/CFF/FFS/VFS/SFR)
http://www.hrabe.ch/cgi-bin/fnrGet.exe?fnr=0358021438&amt=035&lang=1&hrg_opt=11000&shab=0000000
 
copied from this register, it reads:
Schweizerische Bundesbahnen SBB
(Chemins de fer fédéraux suisses CFF)
(Ferrovie federali svizzere FFS)
(Viafiers federalas svizras VFS)
(Swiss federal railways SFR)
Markus Giger


Swiss Railways soon back to normal (nearly)

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

On Sunday, Nov, 5, SBB-Line Zürich - Bülach reopens after a landslide due to construction work for a building closed the line on Oct, 30
 
The still closed lines after the floods of mid-October reopen as follows:
FO Brig - Fiesch, Sat, Nov, 4
BVZ Brig - St. Niklaus, Wed, Nov. 8
SBB Sierre - Leuk, Wed, Nov. 8
It seems, that TPC Bex - Gryon reopened earlier, as closure message disappeard
 
BVZ will work hard on further reconstruction untill next year, only provisional solutions were possible now. Important was help given by the army, BVZ sais.
 
Two lines are closed as planned for refurbishment:
Brienz - Interlaken Ost (SBB meter gauge) Mo, Oct, 30 untill Fr, Nov, 17
Emmenbrücke - Hochdorf (SBB Seetal) only Mo - Fr only 0830-1630
 
Markus Giger


MThB + SBB

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Former competitors and rivals SBB and MThB plan to cooperate: They are willing to build a common company "Regionalbahn Ostschweiz" RBO. With a staff of 200 persons it shall take the concessions of all MThB- and SBB-lines between Schaffhausen, Rorschach and Uznach (Canton Thurgau and some areas of St. Gallen and Schaffhausen) as well as Southern Germany. MThB and SBB think, there will be big competition from European companies. But untill today none of them showed up in a tender in Switzerland. SwissRail will follow the development closely!
Markus Giger


Re: Swiss Railways soon back to normal (nearly)

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

It seems, that TPC Bex - Gryon reopened earlier, as closure message disappeard
 
I can add, that somebody saw TPC-trains working at Bex on Oct, 30. So, reopening must have been before that date.
Markus Giger


Simplon closed again

Markus Giger <giger.baumann@...>
 

On Monday, Nov, 6, about 1620 h, Brig - Domodossola was closed due to
heavy snowfalls which caused a danger of landslides.
Markus Giger


Simplon offen

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

Nach 24 h Sperrung wurde der Simplon heute, 7.11.00 um 16 Uhr wieder geöffnet.
 
Simplon was reopened today, Nov, 11, at 1600 h, after 24 hours of closure.
 
Markus Giger


Re: Re 4/4"

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

One of the Swis-Express Re 4/4" recently got a standard pantograph instead of single arm. Light was bad and distance high, so I am not sure it was 11106 or 11108 or ...
Tell you when I meet again!
Markus Giger

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2000 22:42
Betreff: [SwissRail] Re 4/4"

According to Eisenbahn-Amateur 3/2000, from the 6 Protoypes and first series of 50 locomotives Re 4/4" and "', which are shorter than the rest, the following now have a new single-arm pantograph - but still only one, not two as the others:
11103*
11106*
11107
11108*
11109*
11110gn
11119gn
11123gn
11137gn
11140
11142gn
11143
11145
11350
 
* = still in Swiss-Express livery, also 11141
gn = still in green livery, also 11102, 11105, 11117


Re: [SBB] Fire in a tunnel

Giger-Baumann <giger.baumann@...>
 

The federal office of transport will soon release a report about tunnel
security and improvements necessary. However, some things were realized in
the last 10 years. 1991 Apr 4 a train caught fire in Z�rich
Hirschengrabentunnel (between main station and Stadelhofen). The inevitable
happened: somebody pulled the emergency brake. People had to walk our over
nearly 1 km. As there was no "chimney effect" as in Kaprun, nobody was
killed.
Afterwards bilevel trains were equipped with an emergency brake retarder
(Notbrems�berbr�ckung) which gives a signal to the engineer. He can decide
whether to stop or to proceed. In a tunnel he would usually decide to
proceed. The same device is installed in trains going over Germany's new
lines (Neubaustrecken). On the RhB with it's vacuum breaks, it was not
possible to install the same device. So a system was installed which can
also be found in Undergrounds (U-Bahnen). It allows passengers to speak to
the engineer. So he also gets information about the reason of the emergency
and can thus better evaluate whether to proceed or not.
Another thing installed in many tunnels in the meantime is light and
walkways. Finally the standard for all new long tunnels is to bore two
holes, so the one not affected by an event can serve as rescue tunnel. Of
course, the chunnel system with three tunnels is even better, but also much
more expensive. New Gotthard and new L�tschberg will consist of two tunnels.
Also the good old Simplon consists of two tunnels.
SBB and BLS own a total of about twelve rescue and fire extinguish trains.
One can often be seen in Z�rich and one in Bern. They have three cars and
are red. They mostly stand somewhere with a Diesel enginge coupled to them.
Until now, they had been sent for fires many times - but of houses besides
the railway lines!

Markus Giger

-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "klaus domes" <domes@model-trains.org>
An: "SBB-List" <SBB@egroups.com>
Gesendet: Freitag, 17. November 2000 17:32
Betreff: [SBB] Fire in a tunnel


Having read about the firy inferno in a (funicular-)tunnel in Kaprun,
Austria where over 160 people lost there lives, I would like to ask a
question. What would happen if a passenger train, passing through a long
tunnel catches fire ? I could imagine a passenger detecting the smoke or the
flames pulling the emergency break. Common wisdom has it, that in case of a
fire on board of a train in a tunnel, the train should not stop but try exit
the tunnel as quick as possible. Is the train crew trained to deal with such
an emergency ? How would the train proceed if the emergency break was been
activated ? What would happen if on account of the fire the catenary is lost
?
There is not much talk about the a,b,c of tunnel rescue. I read that the
RhB apparently has tunnel emergency trains on both sides of the Vereina
tunnel in Selfranga and Sagliains. But I can't recall having ever seen such
equipment in Goeschenen or Airolo, in Brig etc. Unfortunately those
accidents do happen (Kaprun, Channel tunnel, etc.).


RhB rolling stock details

glenn allen
 

I know that there are the Scheer and Wall books which
give details of the RhB fleet numbers. But at �30+
each (for four books) this is a bit steep, does anyone
know of a list of the rolling stock numbers that is a
bit cheaper? I already have the set of three RhB books
but they are rather dated. There have been a fair
number of additions since then.

I also have a bit of a challenge. I have managed to
travel on an ICE and a Pendolino in Switzerland on the
same day. Anyone figure out how to include a TGV as
well? Where would you start from? how far could you
go? Mind, the travel must all be in Switzerland.

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Re: RhB rolling stock details

Eljas Pölhö <poelhoe@...>
 

Good books with RhB details include:

Taschenlexicon Triebfahrzeuge der Schweiz by Theo Stolz, pub. Minirex 1999,
ISBN 3-907 014-11-1, pocket size, 473 pages, photo and technical details of
all public railways locomotives and railcars (not departmental vehicles). If
you are from UK, try Ian Allan bookshop or Platform 5 (both have advertised
it).

If you want only RhB, a German magazine, Eisenbahn Journal, has published
four specials for RhB: Die RhB, Teil 1 ... 4, cover price in Germany DM
22.80, each 100 pages with both colour and historical b/w photos, some
roster details, better on line details. The latest has ISBN 3-89610-063-7
and covers Landquart-Klosters-Davos-Filisur and Vereina. All are A4 size,
soft cover (ie. like magazines)

Platform 5 has also a Swiss handbook: Swiss Railways. Locomotives Railcars &
Trams by Chris Appleby, ISBN 1872524907. Lists every single unit number by
each railway, many colour and b/w photos. Excellent value at its cover price
GBP 13.50.

Eljas Pölhö

From: glenn allen <glenn_rhb@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: SwissRail@egroups.com
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 13:05:37 -0800 (PST)
To: SwissRail@egroups.com
Subject: [SwissRail] RhB rolling stock details


I know that there are the Scheer and Wall books which
give details of the RhB fleet numbers. But at ?30+
each (for four books) this is a bit steep, does anyone
know of a list of the rolling stock numbers that is a
bit cheaper? I already have the set of three RhB books
but they are rather dated. There have been a fair
number of additions since then.

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