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Re: Serious accident on MGB

Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.07.2020 um 11:32 schrieb tudor erich via groups.io:
So 105 and 4213.
Can anyone identify the other three personwagen for sure?
From the Oberwald webcam it is certain that two ABt 4151-54 and two B 4273-88 were involved. Looking at the front painting of the first ABt it must have been 4154. The second ABt was said to probably be 4152. We'll see, which ones are NOT around. I'm not clear if the Deh, that led the two ABt and on B to Brig was the one involved. It was one of 91-96.

Markus


Re: Serious accident on MGB

tudor erich
 

So 105 and 4213.
Can anyone identify the other three personwagen for sure?


Re: Serious accident on MGB

Stefan Dringenberg
 

Hi,

Am 10.07.2020 um 02:05 schrieb Guerbetaler <guerbetaler@sunrise.ch>:

Somebody said it is 105. Maybe it's true.

The locomotive is still in Oberwald, so it seems that it is difficult to move it (over the rack) to Brig. All other vehicles were brought away, the eastern half of 4213 obviously on a lorry.
It is definitly 105, have seen it on Monday in Oberwald. The front was covered.

Stefan


Re: St Gallen to Geneva Intercity trains

Ewan Tait
 

No, it is in the process of being sold. Another six to twelve months until they expect it to be concluded.

On 10 Jul 2020, at 00:31, csipromo via groups.io <csipromo=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I must correct your comment. The rubbish of which you speak no longer belongs to Bombardier. It has been sold to Alstom.


Re: Books on the RhB in English

John Beaulieu
 

Calandamountain channel has video showing the RhB on Youtube. His earliest ones are bare bones, but his recent ones have more information. 

The Railway Emotions channel on Youtube also featured a video shot by Clandamountain with more information.

Finally some of the recent videos on Lorirocks777 channel have great detail with 4K quality covering several RhB routes.


On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:49 PM csipromo via groups.io <csipromo=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I have the Loetschberg-Simplon, Die Gotthardbahn (3 editions) and Bahnen der Voralpen books by the same authors. Yes, they are 40 years old or older, but they are filled with information about the routes and the history of the lines and have photos on every page.

They give you a basic understanding of the lines and possibly more important, you can learn translations by grasping the German, French or Italian text alongside the English. For example, if a photo description mentions kehrtunnel, you can figure out from the English text that it means spiral tunnel and the next time you see that word, you will understand what it means...

I found that the photos also provide a reasonable idea for some consisting for my model trains.
I would love it if somebody would travel the routes again and update the classic books with new photos...

Regards

Mike C


Re: Serious accident on MGB

Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.07.2020 um 00:20 schrieb stewartjwells:
Is the loco confirmed as 105? Any word on how badly damaged?
Somebody said it is 105. Maybe it's true.

The locomotive is still in Oberwald, so it seems that it is difficult to move it (over the rack) to Brig. All other vehicles were brought away, the eastern half of 4213 obviously on a lorry.

You can move the picture of the webcam of Oberwald to the staion area
https://obergoms.roundshot.com/oberwald/#/
and you can also see older pictures by choosing date and time.

A little screenshot from Thursday 17:00 showing the HGe is attached.

Markus


Re: Serious accident on MGB

stewartjwells
 

Is the loco confirmed as 105? Any word on how badly damaged?


Re: St Gallen to Geneva Intercity trains

csipromo
 

I must correct your comment. The rubbish of which you speak no longer belongs to Bombardier. It has been sold to Alstom.

Regards

Mike C


Re: North-south freight train frequency by day of week

George Raymond
 

If you are looking to photograph freight trains in the Basel area just go to Pratteln any day of the week (including public holidays) and you will see more >than enough freight traffic. Sometimes too many freights come at the same time that you can't photograph all of them.
I did go to Pratteln early this fine evening (a Thursday, as Dave and Markus had suggested) and indeed found myself at times running back and forth on the pedestrian overpass to photograph all the freight trains.

Thanks for everyone's help.

George


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Re: Books on the RhB in English

Guerbetaler
 

Am 09.07.2020 um 21:50 schrieb Clive Dean:
There's also some great "real" cab rides on You Tube of most of the RhB lines now, including:
If we are at it: Don't forget that RhB is included in Google streetview.

<https://www.google.com/maps/@46.5600334,9.8449966,2a,75y,139.29h,91.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sr2J5pd_Nu1fI2XqPnTKn7A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656>


Markus, Gürbetal


Re: Books on the RhB in English

Clive Dean
 


Re: Books on the RhB in English

csipromo
 

I have the Loetschberg-Simplon, Die Gotthardbahn (3 editions) and Bahnen der Voralpen books by the same authors. Yes, they are 40 years old or older, but they are filled with information about the routes and the history of the lines and have photos on every page.

They give you a basic understanding of the lines and possibly more important, you can learn translations by grasping the German, French or Italian text alongside the English. For example, if a photo description mentions kehrtunnel, you can figure out from the English text that it means spiral tunnel and the next time you see that word, you will understand what it means...

I found that the photos also provide a reasonable idea for some consisting for my model trains.
I would love it if somebody would travel the routes again and update the classic books with new photos...

Regards

Mike C


Re: Books on the RhB in English

csipromo
 


Re: North-south freight train frequency by day of week

gordonwis
 

If you are looking to photograph freight trains in the Basel area just go to Pratteln any day of the week (including public holidays) and you will see more than enough freight traffic. Sometimes too many freights come at the same time that you can't photograph all of them.


Re: Books on the RhB in English

jtatum43
 

The book that Mike C mentions is available at amazon.de (amazon Germany) for 15.90 euros new and from 2.45 euros used. They have only one new copy of the book in stock. Click on "Books" at the amazon.de site, then enter the book's title in the search box - Die Rhaetische Bahn - and you'll find it on the second page of listings of RhB books and calendars. They state the text is in German, French and English.

Jim Tatum


Re: Books on the RhB in English

peter749@ymail.com
 

Thanks Mike but that book, Rhaetische Bahn (Orell Fuessli), is around 35-40 years old

Glyn & John,

I will suggest those two books to my friend

Thank you

Peter


Re: Books on the RhB in English

csipromo
 

I was able to determine that the most recent edition of that book seems to be from 1986. It likely does not include the Vereina Tunnel and other recent changes, but should provide a wealth of information and photos of the classic primary lines of the railway, including the Rhein valley, Filisur (Landwasser), the Albula, the Engadin and the Bernina.

Information on the Vereina line (tunnel) can be found online: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vereina_Tunnel

Regards

Mike C


Re: Books on the RhB in English

csipromo
 

You could look to see if you can find the most recent edition of the book by Franz Marti and Walter Trueb Die Rhaetische Bahn (Orell Fuessli). I think it probably dates back to the 1980s.
It has text in German, French, Italian and English and is full of photos. The rolling stock is older and some routes may be newer, but it will give you a good understanding of the route.

More recent rolling stock and images can be found on the web.

Regards

Mike C


Re: Books on the RhB in English

John Jesson
 

The Swiss Railways Society publishes two books that might fit the
requirements. "Swiss Travel Guides - 6, Graubünden" describes all the
lines of the RhB. It was published in 2013.

Published this year is another, larger, book "Swiss Independent Railways
- their electric locomotives past & present". There is a lengthy section
devoted to the RhB, including the former Bernina Bahn and Bellinzona -
Mesocco.

Both are in English and are available from the SRS shop on their website.

John Jesson


Re: Books on the RhB in English

glyn.jones
 

Nothing on the SRC website about just the RhB - I will keep looking
No but the new Swiss Independent Railways book has 30 pages devoted to RhB
electric locos.

Glyn

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