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Re: DB ICE 1

Martin Baumann
 

333/278 was 412 023 earlier 372 ex Interlaken was 412 034 so the last ICE-1 working was set 90 on 376 yesterday. (They will of course still work into Basel from Germany but as the modernisation/life extension programme for the ICE-1 gets underway they will lose their authorisation for running beyond there)


Re: DB ICE 1

Martin Baumann
 
Edited

13.06.2020

371 Berlin-Interlaken 412 023 failed at Basel SBB replaced by EW IV pushpull

373 Berlin-Interlaken 412 034 terminated at Bern as relieving driver reportedly not passed on 412

372 from Interlaken 401 081+401 581

278 from Interlaken 401 587+401 584

275 Frankfurt-Interlaken and 376 Interlaken-Frankfurt 401 090+401 590

It is possible that 333 ex Basel and 278 ex Interlaken tomorrow 14.06 will be 401 082+401 582 which finished at Basel off 375 tonight but this is unconfirmed.


Re: DB ICE 1

Gbgen
 

Only the northbound. Southbounds are both ICE4.


Re: DB ICE 1

Martin Baumann
 

401s finish on Interlaken trains tomorrow, 13.06


Re: New RhB EMU sets

Martin Baumann
 

Another 20 units have been ordered taking the total to 56

https://tinyurl.com/y95m5fbt

(German, bahnonline.ch)


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Martin Baumann
 

177 is also withdrawn


SBB Cargo Deutschland Hybrid

Martin Baumann
 

https://railcolornews.com/2018/10/30/ch-lokroll-orders-12-prima-h3-locomotives-for-sbb-cargo/

https://railcolornews.com/2020/06/08/de-sbb-cargo-international-goes-hybrid-h3-for-offenbach-am-main/

https://www.rangierdiesel.de/index.php?nav=1406157&id=119527&action=portrait

The first of the batch of 12 to be leased from Südleasing was handed over on June 5th

90 80 1002 035-6 D-ALS works number H3-00035

The first of the two railcolor articles linked states that they have ETCS and are (will be ?) passed for Switzerland


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Guerbetaler
 

Am 08.06.2020 um 09:33 schrieb Krist van Besien:
but the problem was crossing Spiez, for which they did not manage to
come up with a good solution.
There were good solutions. But not cheap ones...

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Krist van Besien
 

On rack railways the coaches have cogs as well (at least one), on order to be able to contribute to braking on the way down. The glacier express coaches have cogs for example.

They did study the option of converting the Zweisimmen - Spiez railway to narrow gauge, and adding a third rail till Interlaken. but the problem was crossing Spies, for which they did not manage to come up with a good solution.

Krist

On Jun 7, 2020, 18:40 +0200, csipromo via groups.io <csipromo=yahoo.com@groups.io>, wrote:
I don't understand your comment on the MOB coach sets. As far as I knew, the Bruenig trains had locomotives with cog equipment and the coaches were simply running on their wheels. Do the coaches also engage the cogs?


Re: BLS Re 4/4

gordonwis
 

On Saturday, 6 June 2020, 22:17:49 BST, csipromo via groups.io <csipromo=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I guess that if Re 465 take over the Goldenpass, that the Re 420.5 will most likely head into oblivion.
Given that...

1) BLS passenger services will be almost all unit in the not too distant future (the way many of the world's major railways are heading)
2) the BLS Re420 are the oldest variant of ex SBB Re4/4
3) there are already only three left in service
4) all three left have not had a full works visit since 2016

...I'd say it's a shoe in


Re: BLS Re 4/4

csipromo
 

I don't understand your comment on the MOB coach sets. As far as I knew, the Bruenig trains had locomotives with cog equipment and the coaches were simply running on their wheels. Do the coaches also engage the cogs?

So that I have everything correct. The MOB coaches will be locomotive pulled from Montreux to Zweisimmen, where the coaches will regauge and will then be pulled by BLS Re 465 to Interlaken Ost, where passengers will transfer to ZB trains for the rest of the trip to Meiringen and Luzern.

Regards

Mike C


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Guerbetaler
 

Am 06.06.2020 um 18:20 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Will the MOB variable gauge trains replace the current Re 420.5 EWIII sets on the Goldenpass?
yes, they will

I was also curious as to whether they will do the run from Montreux (MOB) to Interlaken Ost (BLS) only
yes

or whether they will once again regauge and continue along the ZB all the way to Luzern?
no, they don't have cogwheels

Would it not have been cheaper to simply install a third rail from Zweisimmen to Interlaken?
no, that would have been much more expensive. Don't forget all the three-rail switches necessary. And the platforms on standard gauge are at 55 cm, but at 35 cm on meter gauge.

I guess that if Re 465 take over the Goldenpass, that the Re 420.5 will most likely head into oblivion.
I also guess, they will.

Markus


Re: BLS Re 4/4

csipromo
 

Will the MOB variable gauge trains replace the current Re 420.5 EWIII sets on the Goldenpass?
I was also curious as to whether they will do the run from Montreux (MOB) to Interlaken Ost (BLS) only or whether they will once again regauge and continue along the ZB all the way to Luzern?

Would it not have been cheaper to simply install a third rail from Zweisimmen to Interlaken?

I guess that if Re 465 take over the Goldenpass, that the Re 420.5 will most likely head into oblivion.

Regards

Mike C


Re: BLS Re 4/4

Martin Baumann
 

181 is now withdrawn


RAm TEE video on youtube

Martin Baumann
 

https://youtu.be/_FxhN1yltU4
plus futher parts linked


Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

csipromo
 

If you look at a map, you will find that the Diveria runs into the Toce and the Toce then runs into the Ticino. I hope that this does not also happen on rails.

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

csipromo
 

Thanks for the update. I guess, Toce, as the river that flows through Domodossola, qualifies in the end.
I had been expecting Isar, Inn or maybe Fulda, Werra or Weser as potential names.

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

Martin Baumann
 

193 534 RUHR

193 535 TOCE (a river in Northern Italy)


Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

csipromo
 

It was nice to see that 193 532 "Rhein" received the original "Nightpiercer" livery which had been applied to 193 492 for a few months.
The main difference is the livery is darker and there are stars in the sky. The red line also does not extend the full length of the side.

https://www.railpictures.net/photo/737677/

Regards

Mike C


Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

Martin Baumann
 

193 535 works number 22772

no name allocated yet to 534 or 535

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