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Re: New livery for BLS 465

csipromo
 

That livery was painted on one locomotive (Re 460 016) as a prototype. The livery was not well received and it was never officially adopted. The SBB decided instead to initially remove the "2000" from the lok faces and has since decided that a more glossy red with the SBB logo added to the lok faces would be the new appearance of these loks.

Prototype "Wave" livery:
https://www.rail-pictures.com/1200/the-sbb-re-460-016-9-33384.jpg
You can find other photos by searching for Re 460 016

First upgraded lok: https://www.railcolor.net/images/basic/slm_5477_64.jpg

The final version with mounted Pleitegeier logo on the lok faces: https://railcolornews.com/wp-content/uploads/SLM_re460_sbb05sbb.jpg

Regards

Mike C


Re: New livery for BLS 465

John Lovda
 

Someone ought to refresh our memory and post a picture of the "new" standard Re460 design scheme with the wave. I never saw a picture of a real locomotive, just a HAG model. How long did they actually last before they were repainted back to the original?


Re: SBB-CI/Süd Leasing Vectron

Toma Bacic
 

Sorry for my ignorance, but how many Vectrons were ordered for SBB Cargo
International through the SüdLeasing?

Thnx and regards
toma

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Re: WLAm? T2S back to Switzerland?

Rob V
 

On 17/05/2020 19:17, Rob V wrote:

The text mentions that they are ex-DB which will probably mean the cars: 61 81 75-71 403-8, 405-3, 410-3, 413-7 & 414-5.
I should check my facts! Tramways.at has already recorded that the cars are 61 81 75-71 450-9 to 454-1. Not sure why the article mentioned DB, then as these cars were never with DB.

Cheers,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7


Re: IRSI 421 387

gordonwis
 

I don't like these light greens too much.
I agree. IMO worse than the 1970s 'universal' orange that fell out of favour because people didn't like it.


Re: WLAm? T2S back to Switzerland?

Rob V
 

On 17/05/2020 17:21, csipromo via groups.io wrote:

I was reading that a few of the WLABm 32 T2S sleeping coaches have been acquired from ÖBB/Nightjet and will be repurposed as sleeping cars for RAlpin ROLA trains.
I am guessing that these coaches, originally built starting in 1975 will replace some of the older ex-SBB RIC coaches that RAlpin acquired from Hupac when it was founded.
Additionally, with the loss of one of the more modern UIC-Z type couchette coaches, these will be a welcome addition to the fleet.
http://www.bahnonline.ch/bo/69820/fuenf-ehemaligen-oebb-schlafwagen-wlabmz-61-fuer-ralpin.htm
Does anybody know whether the coaches being modified for RAlpin are precisely the former WLAm 450-454 of the SBB or include others from the ÖBB fleet?
The text mentions that they are ex-DB which will probably mean the cars: 61 81 75-71 403-8, 405-3, 410-3, 413-7 & 414-5.

Hope this helps,
--
Rob
"I have never understood why it should be necessary to become irrational in order to prove that you care, or, indeed, why it should be necessary to prove it at all." - Avon, Blake's 7


Re: WLAm? T2S back to Switzerland?

Guerbetaler
 

Am 17.05.2020 um 18:21 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
I was reading that a few of the WLABm 32 T2S sleeping coaches have
been acquired from ÖBB/Nightjet and will be repurposed
The project had started in Novmeber 2018! The five coaches had been delivered 1974-75 as 71 85 75-70 450-454 to SBB.

Markus, Gürbetal


WLAm? T2S back to Switzerland?

csipromo
 

I was reading that a few of the WLABm 32 T2S sleeping coaches have been acquired from ÖBB/Nightjet and will be repurposed as sleeping cars for RAlpin ROLA trains.
I am guessing that these coaches, originally built starting in 1975 will replace some of the older ex-SBB RIC coaches that RAlpin acquired from Hupac when it was founded.
Additionally, with the loss of one of the more modern UIC-Z type couchette coaches, these will be a welcome addition to the fleet.

http://www.bahnonline.ch/bo/69820/fuenf-ehemaligen-oebb-schlafwagen-wlabmz-61-fuer-ralpin.htm

Does anybody know whether the coaches being modified for RAlpin are precisely the former WLAm 450-454 of the SBB or include others from the ÖBB fleet?

Regards

Mike C


Re: New livery for BLS 465

csipromo
 

I don't know how much I like the new BLS colours. I guess I will want to see how it looks when the locomotive is attached to a train.
I would be curious to see whether it would be more attractive with a dark blue or silver stripe along the bottom of the green, kind of the way that the SBB loks used to have the white stripe between the red or green and the grey part.

Regards

Mike C


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.05.2020 um 19:08 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
Will Crossrail be subsumed into BLS Cargo or will the Crossrail brand
continue to be used in some markets?
I don't know, if the brand will be used in the future. We will see...

But apart from the brand will BLSC keep the RU XRAIL, in order to get access to EU rails.

A third question is, if XRAIL will continue to be a vehicle keeper. An RU doesn't necessarily need own vehicles. The big number of new locomotives registered for BLSC makes me think that they will concentrate vehicle keepership to BLSC.

Markus


Re: IRSI 421 387

Guerbetaler
 

Am 16.05.2020 um 20:55 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
livery that would have been cool to see again would have been the
Cargo Logistics Green one...
That's almost what the Re 465 is to look like. I don't like these light greens too much.

Markus, Gürbetal


Re: IRSI 421 387

csipromo
 

The only other extinct livery that would have been cool to see again would have been the Cargo Logistics Green one...

Regards

Mike C


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

csipromo
 

I was not sure how the acquisition of Crossrail was going to affect these new locomotives. Will Crossrail be subsumed into BLS Cargo or will the Crossrail brand continue to be used in some markets? The leased X4E (193) have both BLSC and Crossrail markings.

Regards

Mike C


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

reissr@...
 

One difference already known: Now additional approval for Belgium

So you might see it, if you have a closer look at the "UIC-Raster".


IRSI 421 387

Martin Baumann
 

This loco has been repainted in a blue-cream linery similar to that used by DB on the 1960s on Rheingold equipment
https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10216944167738583&id=1297595311&set=gm.3149238948502334&source=48


Re: Lötschberg base tunnel reopened

Toma Bacic
 


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

Martin Baumann
 

Same basic livery. No mountains etc added yet so that might be different


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

csipromo
 

Same livery as the main batch?

Regards

Mike C


Re: 25 more Vectron for BLS

Martin Baumann
 

416 and 417 are currently in Regensburg where all new Vectron Locomotives are commissioned

91 85 6 475 416-4 CH-BLSC works number 22751

91 85 6 475 417-2 CH-BLSC works number 22758


Re: RhB luxury trains

Bill Bolton
 

On Sun, 10 May 2020 22:37:56 +0000 (UTC),Gordon wrote:

Some bits and pieces here:
<https://scalaenne.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/carrozze-ciwl-a-scartamento-ridotto-parte-2-rhb-classic-alpine-pullman-express/>

Excellent coverage, thanks for posting that link Gordon!

Cheers,

Bill

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