Dolderbahn: was: Zurich Funiculars


Hans L.
 

Cog railcars, custom built, are always more expensive than adherence railcars, very similar to previous series.


Guerbetaler
 

Am 06.06.2021 um 13:10 schrieb Guerbetaler:
Am 05.06.2021 um 20:46 schrieb Martin Baumann:
60 EMU for SBB work out at about SFR2,166,000 each.
Maybe you have lost a digit or a comma somewhere?
SER 5/2021 says the total price for 60 units is CHF 1.3bn

1.3bn / 60 = 21.66m for a six-car unit

(My guess would be 7m for a motor coach and 2m for a coach)

Serbia ordered 3 units for EUR 62.2m, that's EUR 20.733m

As of today, one EUR gives 1.0835 CHF, thus
EUR 20.733m = CHF 22.465m

However, SER thinks that the market price for a double deck unit would be CHF 3m less than what Stadler gets. I wonder from where he gets such price indications.

Markus, Gürbetal


Guerbetaler
 

Am 05.06.2021 um 20:46 schrieb Martin Baumann:
60 EMU for SBB work out at about SFR2,166,000 each.
Maybe you have lost a digit or a comma somewhere?

Markus, Gürbetal


csipromo
 

I think it is more likely that the higher cost is due to the fact that parts must be designed for a total of 2 models rather than for a production run of 60, where the cost of the design and molds and production can be shared between 60 rather than just between 2.

Regards

Mike C


Martin Baumann
 

Two railcars have been ordered from Stadler to replace 1 and 2 built 1973.

The contract was given direct to Stadler without a tendering process on the grounds that they are the only company capable of building them.

They will cost SFR5,283,000 each,not including tax!

The recently ordered 60 EMU for SBB work out at about SFR2,166,000 each.

I assume that the high cost of the Dolder vehicles is due to their specialist nature and there being only 2


Andrew Moglestue
 

--- In SwissRail@yahoogroups.com, Nabil <airliners_2000@...> wrote:

--- Max Wyss <max@...> wrote:
First, and foremost, the Dolderbahn is no longer a funicular ...
it
has been converted to a cog railway some 30 or so years ago...
And let us hope it doesn't get converted to a rubber tyred metro!
It has undergone a heavy refurbishment recently, including track
replacement. I think this should make it safe for the forseeable future.

Andrew