BN EW IA Numbers


Guerbetaler
 

Am 29.06.2022 um 08:30 schrieb Alan McMillan:

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 07:08 AM, csipromo wrote:

 

"did any of them receive the new livery but retain the inscriptions at the

middle of the coach body?"

 

Yes, some of them did Mike. I also have a Lima EWI like this with ‘BLS’ in the middle of the side:


(see also my message from 25 Sept 2021 to the modelling group)
https://swissrail.groups.io/g/modelling/message/444

Application of the [ BLS] Lötschbergbahn logo started only in 1986 (and ended in 1996/2001).

Markus


Alan McMillan
 

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 07:08 AM, csipromo wrote:

 

"did any of them receive the new livery but retain the inscriptions at the

middle of the coach body?"

 

Yes, some of them did Mike. I also have a Lima EWI like this with ‘BLS’ in the middle of the side:

 

 

Alan

Edinburgh


csipromo
 

This is very interesting as a topic. As far as I knew, the BN first class EWI coaches were delivered in green.
I did not know that they never received the blue/beige livery with original inscriptions.
When they were repainted in the more modern livery with blue ends, did they already receive the stylized logo with BN in the blue box and Bern Neuenburg markings similar to the 1980s BLS and SBB logo (post EWIV) or did any of them receive the new livery but retain the inscriptions at the middle of the coach body?

I have the early 80s edition of Simplon Loetschberg by Marti and Trüb. Unlike the Die Gotthardbahn book, I don't have the earlier editions with older photos.

Regards

Mike C


Alan McMillan
 

Thank you very much Markus
Alan
Edinburgh


Guerbetaler
 

Am 28.06.2022 um 14:40 schrieb Alan McMillan:
that will be part of my six car BLS/BN train in 1976 livery
This livery was applied to
A 50 63 18-33 806 - 812
AB 50 63 39-33 813 - 815 (1966)
B 50 63 20-33 839 - 845 and 890 - 899 (BN)
D 50 63 92-33 550 - 552 (1956)

Markus, Gürbetal


Guerbetaler
 

Am 28.06.2022 um 17:30 schrieb Toma Bacic:
This is an older edition, from 1986, ISBN 2-903310-49-1

BN, GBS and SEZ were treated separately
Belloncle: ''SEZ-GBS-BN, Die Mitbetriebenen Bahnen der BLS.'' Les Editions du Cabri, Breil-sur-Roya (France) 1989, ISBN 2-903310-74-2

What Martin mentioned came 20 years later:
Patrick Belloncle, Rolf Grossenbacher, Christian Müller, Peter Willen: ''Das grosse Buch der Lötschbergbahn. Die BLS und ihre mitbetriebenen Bahnen SEZ, GBS, BN..'' Edition Viafer, Kerzers 2005, ISBN 3-9522494-1-6

Markus


Guerbetaler
 

Am 28.06.2022 um 17:17 schrieb Alan McMillan:
I'd really like to have a BN one.
BN didn't have A, only AB. The 1976 blue/cream was only applied to A 806-812. A 800-805 had been delivered in green and when they were refurbished, they got the new type of blue/cream with completely blue ends.

Markus, Gürbetal


Martin Baumann
 

Sorry, typo 521 and 522 originally AB4ü


Alan McMillan
 

Thanks Martin. Just what I needed

Regards

Alan
Edinburgh


Toma Bacic
 


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Alan McMillan
 

Hi Mike
I'd really like to have a BN one.

Alan
Edinburgh


Martin Baumann
 

Most BLS rolling stock is listed in

Das grosse Buch der Lötschbergbahn by Patrick Beloncle. I am uncertain if it is still in print


Martin Baumann
 

EWI A

50 63 18-33

800 to 805 SWS 1971

806 to 809 SWS 1976

810 to 812 SWS 1977

These were all BLS

BN had

B 50 63 20-33 890 to 899 SWS 1976 (first two) and 1977

AB 50 63 39-33 890 and 891 SWS 1961 originally A4ü 521 and 522

D 50 63 92-33 590 and 591 SIG 1962 originally F4ü 995 and 996


csipromo
 

I know that there were AFAIR 13 EWI A in the combined BLS/SEZ/BN fleet. This was the model by Lima for the late 70s/early 80s:
309513: 50 63 18-33 806-2

I have books which provide road numbers for coaches for SBB rolling stock. I do not have the same information for BLS coaches.
I also have information in books for SOB and BT but never came across similar for the BLS Group.

Markus likely has more information and it would be cool if he could provide a source (book) for same.

Regards

Mike C


Alan McMillan
 

A quick question for Markus:
I've discovered I haven't created decals for the EWIA that will be part of my six car BLS/BN train in 1976 livery. Do you by any chance have numbers for either BLS or BN A vehicles?

Regards

Alan
Edinburgh