Driver killed in BLS collision in Germany


Martin Baumann
 
Edited

Reports coming in of an accident near Mühlheim with a BLS ROLA train with 485 004. The driver is reported to have been killed when the train hit bridge debris on the line from an overbridge that was being demolished.

https://www.badische-zeitung.de/zugunglueck-bei-auggen-mehrere-verletzte-grosseinsatz-laeuft


Ewan Tait
 

On 2 Apr 2020, at 20:22, Martin Baumann <martin98baumann@outlook.com> wrote:
Reports coming in of an accident near Mühlheim with a BLS powered ROLA
train. The driver is reported to have been killed when the train hit bridge
debris on the line from an overbridge that was being demolished.


https://www.tag24.de/justiz/polizei/zug-unglueck-rheintalbahn-auggen-breisgau-freiburg-baden-wuerttemberg-1477193

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gordonwis
 

Very sadly, it seems to have been a ridiculously large chunk of bridge - somewhat more than just 'debris'. The driver was killed and several lorry drivers injured in the amenity coach.


csipromo
 

Apparently the bridge had already been demolished. The accident involved a prefabricated concrete slab that was part of the new bridge that was either being put into place or had very recently been put into place.

Regards

Mike C


Ewan Tait
 

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 15:17, csipromo via groups.io
<csipromo=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Apparently the bridge had already been demolished. The accident involved a prefabricated concrete slab that was part of the new bridge that was either being put into place or had very recently been put into place.
Mike,

No, this was the bridge being demolished that collapsed. The deck was
meant to be getting taken out this weekend. The new bridge has been
built several hundred metres to the south.

https://www.badische-zeitung.de/zugunglueck-bei-auggen-mehrere-verletzte-grosseinsatz-laeuft

Regards,
Ewan

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csipromo
 

Thanks for the clarification. My information was gleaned from the German language posts (at that time) in DSO.
https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/read.php?002,9265361,page=1

Since then, the thread is now up to 17 pages and has been updated to include more accurate information.

Regards

Mike C


csipromo
 

Tobias Schmidt captured a shot of the train involved shortly before the accident. He posted the photo in black and white on bahnbilder.de, which I think is a suitable memoriam to the locomotive and the driver who died.

https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/schweiz~e-loks~re-485-bls-traxx-f140-ac1/1200790/aus-aktuellem-anlass-moechte-ich-hier.html

My condolences to the family of the driver and to those injured in the accident.

I am also curious about how the leading ROLA car went completely under the train's couchette coach. Does this indicate some problem with the design of the coupler and buffer system of the ROLA cars?

Regards

Mike C


Guerbetaler
 

Am 09.04.2020 um 17:02 schrieb csipromo via groups.io:
I am also curious about how the leading ROLA car went completely
under the train's couchette coach. Does this indicate some problem
with the design of the coupler and buffer system of the ROLA cars?
Why should it be a problem? It is a fact and in this accident we can say that it was a big advantage and helped the lorry drivers to survive.

The ROLA cars must have the floor as deep as possible to let enough height for the 4 m of the lorries. Thus the wheels are reduced to a diameter of 36 or 38 cm. Between the bogies the floor is somewhat lowered. This keeps the edge of the lorries at about 4.40 m above rail.

This allows a simple loading and unloading but requires the standard couplings to be swivel-mounted. They can withstand normal forces in a train but they are clearly the first part to be destroyed in a collision. As seen.

Markus, Gürbetal


gordonwis
 

Ralpin 43635 Freiburg (Breisgau) GBf - Novara


gordonwis
 

On Friday, 3 April 2020, 00:52:17 BST, gordonwis via groups.io <gordonwis=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Very sadly, it seems to have been a ridiculously large chunk of bridge - somewhat more than just 'debris'. The driver was killed and several lorry drivers injured in the amenity coach.

Some confusion as to whether the bridge was being demolished or is under construction


Guerbetaler
 

Am 09.04.2020 um 22:04 schrieb Guerbetaler:
Between the bogies the floor is somewhat lowered.
...
but requires the standard couplings to be swivel-mounted.
to check the facts, go here;
<https://groups.io/g/SwissRail/album?id=244717>

Markus, Gürbetal


Thomas
 

On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 02:42 PM, gordonwis wrote:


Some confusion as to whether the bridge was being demolished or is under
construction
There's realy no confusion about the fact that the piece fell off the old bridge which was being dismantled. The new replacement bridge is located south of where the train came to stop.

Rgds, Thomas.


Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.04.2020 um 18:55 schrieb Thomas:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 02:42 PM, gordonwis wrote:
Some confusion as to whether
There's really no confusion about the fact
At the time when Gordon wrote his mail, there may still have been some confusion about some facts. Please be aware that mails are not always sent at the moment when you receive them. There may be hours or days between sending and receiving for several reasons. Unfortunately this fact isn't always obvious. If you use a good mail-program, it is possible to distinguish between time sent and time received. When I answer Gordon's mail, it appears like this:

Am 03.04.2020 um 01:54 schrieb gordonwis via groups.io:

Markus


Thomas
 

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 10:53 AM, Guerbetaler wrote:

When I
answer Gordon's mail, it appears like this:

Am 03.04.2020 um 01:54 schrieb gordonwis via groups.io:
On the group page the correct time & date also appears. That means that it took 6 days for that e-mail to reach the group! It would probably have been faster by postal mail, even under the current circumstances.

What is amazing is the time it took for the mainstream press and the German police to realize that the chunk of bridge which was hit by the train on its journey south could not have come from the new bridge which is even further south from the position where the train and chunk had come to halt, especially given that no chunks of the new bridge were missing and that photographers of the said press were able to stand on that bridge in order to take pictures of the accident site.

Rgds, Thomas.