New Metre Gauge locomotives


Martin Baumann
 

BAM (MBC) and MOB have jointly requested tenders for 10 locomotives:

Maximum weight to be 16 tonnes

BAM want four units of which two are to be bimode (it does not specify if this is diesel or battery)

MOB want six units including bimodes but the tender does not say how many.

The MOB units are to be capable of upgrading from the current 900v DC electrification to 1500v DC

https://www.simap.ch/shabforms/COMMON/search/projectDetail.jsf (French)


Thomas
 

I can't open the link. Is 16 tonnes total weight or per axle? If total, these would be tiny locos, already the new Stadler diesels/electro-diesels or electro-battery locos already weigh 26.5-28 tonnes.

Any idea for what use they are being bought?

Rgds, Thomas.


Thomas
 

I was now able to find the tender announcement. The weight is 16 tonnes/axle, so 64 tonnes total, the same as MOB's Ge 4/4 and 1.5 tonnes heavier than MBC's Ge 4/4.

Rgds, Thomas.


gordonwis
 

On Wednesday, 5 May 2021, 10:41:16 BST, Thomas <tks71@hotmail.com> wrote:
I can't open the link.
Appel d'offres pour 10 locomotives à adhérence pour voie métrique, limité à 16 tonnes par essieu, réparties en quatre lots qui diffèrent techniquement comme suit:
- Lot 1: 15 kV AC charge à tracter par deux locomotives, sans le poids des locomotive 680 t dans 35 ‰ par tous les temps ;
- Lot 2 : 15KV AC bi-mode charge à tracter par deux locomotives, sans le poids des locomotive 680 t dans 35 ‰ par tous les temps et pour les 2 modes ;
- Lot 3: 900 V DC, passant en 1500 V DC dans le futur, charge à tracter sans la locomotive 165 t dans 73 ‰ par tous les temps et pour les 2 tensions ;
- Lot 4: 900 V DC, passant en 1500 V DC dans le futur, bi-mode, charge à tracter sans la locomotive 165 t dans 73‰ par tous les temps et pour les 2 modes.
Des options de commande seront possibles sur une durée de 10 ans à compter de la décision d'adjudication.


Thomas
 

Does anyone know what the axle-load of the bi-modal version of Stadler's SALi being built for Ferrocarrils de la Generalitat de Catalunya (FGC) is? The original diesel SALi for Bolivia has an axle-load of 20 tonnes, while the AsiaLight version for Taiwan has 16 tonnes. Both versions diverge from the Euro Dueal and have six axles.

When FGC launched a tender for five bi-mode meter gauge locomotives on 02.12.2019, Stadler Rail (Valencia) was the sole candidate for the procurement and was selected as winner, so this will probably be case here too.

Rgds, Thomas.


Guerbetaler
 

FGC had a bimodal lcomotive, class 255, leased 2011-17 from Euskotren. 255.01, now back as 2003. Euskotren purchased 12 locomotives to develop freight traffic, but it didn't go as expected and they finally sold three of them (2008-10) to Ecuador, AFAIK without pantographs...

These locomotives have an axle load of 15.5 t and are rated 1200 kW. They go with 1500 V dc, thus an ac version would be somewhat heavier. But I don't think that they would fulfill the traction program of MBC, MOB and MGI.

MOB 6000 are rated 1000 kW, 8000 are 2000 kW, HGe 4/4" about 1900 kW, MBC and RhB Ge 4/4 III 3200 kW.

A lower rated locomotive can pull a comparable load but at lower speed!

FGC 256.01, which is a HGem 2/2 from Stadler is rated 700 kW and weighs 28 t.

Existing six-axle diesel electric FGC 254.01-03 of 1990 are rated 1200 kw, come with an axle-load of 13.5 t, total weight 81 t.

Markus, Gürbetal


Hans L.
 

Euskotren Bimodal: http://www.traction-electrique.ch/documents/Fich1108.pdf

New FGC from Stadler seems to be rated at 90 t. They will be CoCo.


Thomas
 

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:34 AM, Hans L. wrote:

New FGC from Stadler seems to be rated at 90 t. They will be CoCo.
So these would fit the weight limit. It would be interesting to see a 6-axle meter gauge loco in Switzerland again.

Rgds, Thomas.


Guerbetaler
 

Am 10.05.2021 um 21:41 schrieb Thomas:
It would be interesting to see a 6-axle meter gauge loco in Switzerland again.
Me and the meter gauge track wouldn't like to see a Co'Co' locomotive. But a Bo'Bo'Bo' would be welcome.

Markus, Gürbetal